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Re: Let's ready ourselves for the ROGC and ROTC

Postby Piratis » Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:58 pm

YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
MrH wrote:According to certain inside sources ...


According to your past postings' record, all your "inside sources" have proven to arise from your imagination!

Don't be silly now. It is accepted by the whole international community that this is the last chance. If no deal, then its over.
There will be no more discussions except how much territory to hand back.


YFred and MrH, are you a masochists? Why you want to put yourselves in such situations that you will be proven wrong?

I really will not bother to reply to your nonsense now. I will wait and make fun of you in a few months.

The only thing I will tell you is that there is no possibility for legalization of your crimes. Maybe this is the "last chance" for the current negotiations. But all this means is that the status quo will continue for longer until we find a solution either with future negotiations, or with other means that will liberate Cyprus from the Turkish occupation and restore legality.
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Re: Let's ready ourselves for the ROGC and ROTC

Postby YFred » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:06 pm

Piratis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
MrH wrote:According to certain inside sources ...


According to your past postings' record, all your "inside sources" have proven to arise from your imagination!

Don't be silly now. It is accepted by the whole international community that this is the last chance. If no deal, then its over.
There will be no more discussions except how much territory to hand back.


YFred and MrH, are you a masochists? Why you want to put yourselves in such situations that you will be proven wrong?

I really will not bother to reply to your nonsense now. I will wait and make fun of you in a few months.

The only thing I will tell you is that there is no possibility for legalization of your crimes. Maybe this is the "last chance" for the current negotiations. But all this means is that the status quo will continue for longer until we find a solution either with future negotiations, or with other means that will liberate Cyprus from the Turkish occupation and restore legality.

No Piratis, the negotiation in 2004 were not in good faith, because TPapa did not want peace. Mr X does. It is very first time that both sides have put forward a negotiator that actually wants peace. If these two individuals can not do it, then it will never happen. Hence lets wait and see how it pans out. It is not a laughing matter. If what you are saying happens, we will both be crying. I believe the end is near and if there is no settlement its the GCs that will be crying within a very short time (I said 12 months after and I stick to it). We shall see.
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Postby boomerang » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:06 pm

YFred wrote:
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YFred wrote:
boomerang wrote:some people think a hard on counts as a personal growth...knucklehead is a true testiment to this belief... :lol:

Assikdir len.



hmmm...100,000 sperm and you were the smartest knucklehead?...I wonder what classification were the other 99,000... :lol:

Bambo fetch.


yeah throw yourself off a cliff and I will fetch yeah... :lol:
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Re: Let's ready ourselves for the ROGC and ROTC

Postby wallace » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:07 pm

YFred wrote:
wallace wrote:
YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
MrH wrote:According to certain inside sources ...


According to your past postings' record, all your "inside sources" have proven to arise from your imagination!

Don't be silly now. It is accepted by the whole international community that this is the last chance. If no deal, then its over.
There will be no more discussions except how much territory to hand back.


That's what they said in 2004 also. Credible links please.

Bildt under fire over Cyprus comments

POLITICIANS yesterday banded together to roundly condemn comments made by Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt in a session of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the European Parliament on Tuesday.

Answering a French delegate’s question over the Swedish Presidency’s position on Turkish military parade in the north, Bildt replied that the rally had to be put in context, with an answer to the effect that the activities of the Greek junta in 1974 provoked the Turkish army’s invasion.

Foreign Minister Marcos Kyprianou expressed his over Bildt’s remarks. “The least I can say is to express my disappointment over the positions expressed by the Swedish Minister of Foreign Affairs, an official of an EU member state and a representative of the presidency.”
Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009

Whay was such a comment made about the activities in the north on 20th by Buildt. Whats behind it? RoC has lost the argument. Sorry.
It will be officially anounced after if the agreement is not reached.


Everybody knows Bildt's thoughts on the CYprob. He has made these kind of statements before. What Bildt forgets is that Cyprus is member of his own club. The EU. If I were Bildt I would be carefull with the statements he makes and as EU presidency he should make more nuteral statements. What will also be announced officially is that Turkey wants control over Cyprus by not accepting a BBF and that it did not help towards a solution. Bye EU for Turkey.
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:09 pm

International acceptance of partition does NOT alter the individual rights, Kossovo should be a guiding light for that. The Kossovars have achieved partition but everything now depends on how they demostrate their respect for the right of individuals in Kossovo. Serbs have not lost their properties, and they cannot lose them in the future. The same goes for Greek property in Istanbul and the islands of Imvros and Tenedos. Turkey knows this and is taking steps to put right all the misguided property measures of the past 50 years.

So for partition to work, it has to have the consent of both communities and a legal settlement of the property issue. Otherwise the only thing that will change will be the name of the defendand state in the ECHR legal suits.
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Re: Let's ready ourselves for the ROGC and ROTC

Postby YFred » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:09 pm

wallace wrote:
YFred wrote:
wallace wrote:
YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
MrH wrote:According to certain inside sources ...


According to your past postings' record, all your "inside sources" have proven to arise from your imagination!

Don't be silly now. It is accepted by the whole international community that this is the last chance. If no deal, then its over.
There will be no more discussions except how much territory to hand back.


That's what they said in 2004 also. Credible links please.

Bildt under fire over Cyprus comments

POLITICIANS yesterday banded together to roundly condemn comments made by Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt in a session of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the European Parliament on Tuesday.

Answering a French delegate’s question over the Swedish Presidency’s position on Turkish military parade in the north, Bildt replied that the rally had to be put in context, with an answer to the effect that the activities of the Greek junta in 1974 provoked the Turkish army’s invasion.

Foreign Minister Marcos Kyprianou expressed his over Bildt’s remarks. “The least I can say is to express my disappointment over the positions expressed by the Swedish Minister of Foreign Affairs, an official of an EU member state and a representative of the presidency.”
Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009

Whay was such a comment made about the activities in the north on 20th by Buildt. Whats behind it? RoC has lost the argument. Sorry.
It will be officially anounced after if the agreement is not reached.


Everybody knows Bildt's thoughts on the CYprob. He has made these kind of statements before. What Bildt forgets is that Cyprus is member of his own club. The EU. If I were Bildt I would be carefull with the statements he makes and as EU presidency he should make more nuteral statements. What will also be announced officially is that Turkey wants control over Cyprus by not accepting a BBF and that it did not help towards a solution. Bye EU for Turkey.

Only time will tell how it pans out. We are very patiant.
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Re: Let's ready ourselves for the ROGC and ROTC

Postby wallace » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:10 pm

YFred wrote:
Piratis wrote:
YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:
MrH wrote:According to certain inside sources ...


According to your past postings' record, all your "inside sources" have proven to arise from your imagination!

Don't be silly now. It is accepted by the whole international community that this is the last chance. If no deal, then its over.
There will be no more discussions except how much territory to hand back.


YFred and MrH, are you a masochists? Why you want to put yourselves in such situations that you will be proven wrong?

I really will not bother to reply to your nonsense now. I will wait and make fun of you in a few months.

The only thing I will tell you is that there is no possibility for legalization of your crimes. Maybe this is the "last chance" for the current negotiations. But all this means is that the status quo will continue for longer until we find a solution either with future negotiations, or with other means that will liberate Cyprus from the Turkish occupation and restore legality.

No Piratis, the negotiation in 2004 were not in good faith, because TPapa did not want peace. Mr X does. It is very first time that both sides have put forward a negotiator that actually wants peace. If these two individuals can not do it, then it will never happen. Hence lets wait and see how it pans out. It is not a laughing matter. If what you are saying happens, we will both be crying. I believe the end is near and if there is no settlement its the GCs that will be crying within a very short time (I said 12 months after and I stick to it). We shall see.


Mr X does. That's right. I'm just wondering why he's not negotiating with the Turks. They are the ones that call the shots anyway.
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Postby YFred » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:12 pm

Nikitas wrote:International acceptance of partition does NOT alter the individual rights, Kossovo should be a guiding light for that. The Kossovars have achieved partition but everything now depends on how they demostrate their respect for the right of individuals in Kossovo. Serbs have not lost their properties, and they cannot lose them in the future. The same goes for Greek property in Istanbul and the islands of Imvros and Tenedos. Turkey knows this and is taking steps to put right all the misguided property measures of the past 50 years.

So for partition to work, it has to have the consent of both communities and a legal settlement of the property issue. Otherwise the only thing that will change will be the name of the defendand state in the ECHR legal suits.

There we are in complete agreement. The negotiations will centre around how much land will be given back, how many will return to their properties in the north and who will accept or wish for compensation. It is solvable.
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Postby paliometoxo » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:14 pm

when u go into the north its like all the retard turkish are speaking some ape language and the women in the north are little ugly girls with shitty cars..

aparantly any tc is not allowed to gamble in the north?? and the police check.. they allow anyon else but tcs?
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Postby boomerang » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:14 pm

and who died and put the swedish meatball in charge...this is the real question someone with an ounce of intelligence should be asking themselves...well with the exception of the knucklehead... :lol:
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