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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Jul 24, 2009 2:31 am

me foase re file ivra ;) exei xronia
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Postby yialousa1971 » Fri Jul 24, 2009 3:59 am

paliometoxo wrote:me foase re file ivra ;) exei xronia


What shes found you one, what about me, thea? :D
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Postby miltiades » Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:14 am

Marrying someone with a completely different culture does have its risks. Ultra religious cultures are perhaps the ones to watch out for. There is nothing racist about stating the obvious. A Cypriot girl marrying an Arab has as much chance of a successful marriage as an Orthodox Jewish girl marrying a Cypriot.
European cultures do meet somewhere in th middle and talking of personal experience Cypriot men married to English , Irish , Scottish or Welsh have as much chance of a successful marriage as those marrying Cypriot girls.
Both my self and brother married to English girls , my younger brother married to a Cypriot has had and still having a successful happy marriage , My late sister also married to a Cypriot had a successful marriage.
A lot depends on a number of factors that determine the outcome of a good marriage.
Obviously love ,care , consideration and give and take are main ingredients so is the ability to accept shortfalls of your other half and balance them out with the good points . A sense of humour is a definite must .
As for religious tolerance , well you tolerate so many nonsense in your life why not tolerate fairy tales !
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Postby Sega » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:44 pm

miltiades wrote:European cultures do meet somewhere in th middle and talking of personal experience Cypriot men married to English , Irish , Scottish or Welsh have as much chance of a successful marriage as those marrying Cypriot girls.


You sure on that. I lived in the UK all my life, and I was told that it would be best not to marry in a English family, but instead when the time is right go for a Greek-Cypriot girl either from Cyprus or elsewhere. You have to understand we are not the same culture, and success is not like it would be with a Cypriot woman.

Greek Cypriot girls still have some honor left in their family. A Greek Cypriot woman family are likely to contribute to the wedding, many of whom get help for a house from their parents. You can always count on your in-laws for help. I don't really see this happening with an English family, as most of them see their parents but twice a year.

Not only this, but the rate of divorce here is out of this world, something like 55% of all people in the UK have been divorced, can't really say the same about a Greek Cypriot family.

I lived here most of my life, and you know how many parents through there children out at 16, or charge boarding to their kids, stating that it's to help them be independent, ye right! I do not see a Greek Cypriot family charging their kids board of staying in their home. This is not common in Irish families, but I see it all the time in English families.
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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:09 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:me foase re file ivra ;) exei xronia


What shes found you one, what about me, thea? :D


oi re ivra monos mou...:o

i theia mou eipen mou gia mia kopelloua alla eipa oi epd itan mirkoulla haha
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Postby miltiades » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:18 pm

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miltiades wrote:European cultures do meet somewhere in th middle and talking of personal experience Cypriot men married to English , Irish , Scottish or Welsh have as much chance of a successful marriage as those marrying Cypriot girls.


You sure on that. I lived in the UK all my life, and I was told that it would be best not to marry in a English family, but instead when the time is right go for a Greek-Cypriot girl either from Cyprus or elsewhere. You have to understand we are not the same culture, and success is not like it would be with a Cypriot woman.

Greek Cypriot girls still have some honor left in their family. A Greek Cypriot woman family are likely to contribute to the wedding, many of whom get help for a house from their parents. You can always count on your in-laws for help. I don't really see this happening with an English family, as most of them see their parents but twice a year.

Not only this, but the rate of divorce here is out of this world, something like 55% of all people in the UK have been divorced, can't really say the same about a Greek Cypriot family.

I lived here most of my life, and you know how many parents through there children out at 16, or charge boarding to their kids, stating that it's to help them be independent, ye right! I do not see a Greek Cypriot family charging their kids board of staying in their home. This is not common in Irish families, but I see it all the time in English families.

Not true !
There are English and there are English . I have just given you my personal experience in that I have been with my English wife since 1963 and my brother with his since 1962 .
We are a close family and my wife used to see her late English mother every single day . Her sister comes and visits her every day since my wife is not well and cant do so herself.
I find that many Cypriots , even those who were born in the UK , misunderstand the English . My wife has been a terrific mother to our two children and a fantastic Gran to our two , soon to be three , grandchildren.

My brother's also English wife has brought up 5 children and has 5 grandchildren.
Believe me there is honour , as you say , in English families and there is support. You are drawing your conclusions from the single mother no father syndrome that is so rampant in the UK .

You make a point in saying that our culture is somewhat vastly different when in fact is not. Again I'm basing my conviction on my own and of my friends personal experiences married to English ladies.
My daughter came to live in Cyprus at the age of 15 , she adored the island , loved the weather and lived with my late sister as one of them. She could not speak Greek but soon realized that she had too and arduously proceeded in mastering the language , she now speaks fluent , with an accent of course . Her two children , the oldest , a girl of almost 6 years old speaks fluent Greek and English , her father being a G/C does help.
Clashes of " culture " , well minor ones surely but nothing major . We brought our children up firstly as decent human beings and secondly as half Cypriot and half English , it has worked for me and I'm grateful .
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Postby GorillaGal » Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:48 pm

i wish you luck, honey, with your cypriot.
I too fell in love with a cypriot, and he married someone else (a cypriot), and even though they have been married not quiet a year, he has been cheating on her all along.

i hope the cypriot women will rise up and not take this from thier men. it is not respectful, or fair to thier women. i didn't take it from my ex husband, and i won;t take it from any man. i have no respect for people who lie and cheat.

so to take this into a new direction, what's wrong witht he cypriot women that they would allow this behavior from their men?
my GC is openly trolling for dates on Facebook. how blindly pathetic his wife is, not to see what is going on under her eyes. she deserves beetter than that slime-ball GC!
i am old fashioned, and i believe in marriage, and i beleive children should not be brought into this world in a type of marriage that is openly cheating and disrespectful of each other. what kind of children are we raising. don't they realise sex can be deadly these days? anyone heard of HIV?
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Postby Sega » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:36 pm

miltiades wrote:it has worked for me and I'm grateful .


I am happy for you and the life you led, but I don't see it working for me in this day of age, it won't benefit me anyways. But I suppose in the 60s - 70s times were different. I would like some support from my in-laws and my parents, and a Cypriot family is more inclined to help, I saw things from both sides, both in the UK and in Cyprus, and Cypriot in-laws are better in this day and age as they give more support to their children.
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Postby miltiades » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:56 pm

Sega wrote:
miltiades wrote:it has worked for me and I'm grateful .


I am happy for you and the life you led, but I don't see it working for me in this day of age, it won't benefit me anyways. But I suppose in the 60s - 70s times were different. I would like some support from my in-laws and my parents, and a Cypriot family is more inclined to help, I saw things from both sides, both in the UK and in Cyprus, and Cypriot in-laws are better in this day and age as they give more support to their children.

I accept that for us Cypriots helping our children is very much an inherited cultural obligation or rather an intrinsic commitment.
I'm extremely happy to have been in a position to assist my children and grandchildren.
May I add that my wife has been extremely supportive to out children and those who have come to know her have substantially altered their mostly preconceived notions on English mothers wives etc.
She adores the grandchildren and would do anything for them , and they in turn sense her love and care and respond accordingly.

I would like to add that my late mother in law , born and raised in the East End of London was superb , in fact I very much regret now that I was not always nice to her as in my early married life I was very much a " Cypriot" refusing to undertake anything in the house that I deemed as being the duty of a female !!!
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Postby Sega » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:59 pm

in fact I very much regret now that I was not always nice to her as in my early married life I was very much a " Cypriot" refusing to undertake anything in the house that I deemed as being the duty of a female !!!


It's okay, as long as your family had money which you helped bring in, you did your job, and since you helped your children and even grandchildren, you more than filled your role of a Greek farther. Helping in the kitchen, is not that big of deal, if we were to take the identity of mothers and start doing all the woman jobs, then making money would be a lot harder, as our minds would not be focused, and then you would regret not doing more for your children. So you probably would never win, just thank god that you were able to give your family the best you could give.

We were never designed to get along perfectly with our in laws, it's just the way it is, we cannot fight this, we only should accept it. So don't over think it.
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