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[boomerang]

# Personal attacks are not allowed - Don't attack others. Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully without insult and personal attack.

Either you did not read or you have understanding problems.

so inbred how am i attacking you if i am asking for a credible link to which up to this point you have not provided?...i see thinking ain't part of your fortay as well huh?....

[SoSolidCrew]

# Personal attacks are not allowed - Don't attack others. Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully without insult and personal attack.

Either you did not read or you have understanding problems.

so inbred how am i attacking you if i am asking for a credible link to which up to this point you have not provided?...i see thinking ain't part of your fortay as well huh?....

Look at me asshole, I asked someone to confirm it and there is nothing wrong with that. Is writing to this forum all-day-long the only thing you have at this life?

[boomerang]

# Personal attacks are not allowed - Don't attack others. Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully without insult and personal attack.

Either you did not read or you have understanding problems.

so inbred how am i attacking you if i am asking for a credible link to which up to this point you have not provided?...i see thinking ain't part of your fortay as well huh?....

Look at me asshole, I asked someone to confirm it and there is nothing wrong with that. Is writing to this forum all-day-long the only thing you have at this life?

you asked someone to confirm it huh?...you did not do that inbred...what you did was throwing mud on the wall in hope some will stick...guess what inbred you were pissing in the wind instead and got the whole of it straight back in your face...

then you had the balls, been nipped since then, after watching the videos I posted looking at unarmed civilians suffering at the hands of turks with the beauty, it was war...well fuck you inbred...

where is you fucking compassion you fucking idiot...call the spade a spade and move on...and when i used the same words as you regarding tcs you got upset...well fuck you again inbred...

am i clear now inbred?...

[SoSolidCrew]

Now you are mind-reading huh? Stupid brat.

[boomerang]

Now you are mind-reading huh? Stupid brat.

not mind reading just able to read stupid fucks like you all day long...

[Nikitas]

I t hink that someone has his sources mixed up. Patroclos Stavrou was a long time confidant of Makarios. In the past he has reported on how Makarios was horified by a proposal of Greek mainland officer Papapostolou to kill all TCs.

[YFred]

I t hink that someone has his sources mixed up. Patroclos Stavrou was a long time confidant of Makarios. In the past he has reported on how Makarios was horified by a proposal of Greek mainland officer Papapostolou to kill all TCs.

And these people took power in Cyprus but had no plans to kill a single TC. Now that is almost laughable.

[Nikitas]

YFred,

This quotation has been surfacing in the news at several occasions, whenever the Greek media want to refer to Makarios they turn to Patroclos Stavrou because he lives in Athens and is well connected with the media, being a writer and commentator himself.

It is extremely unlikely that Stavrou would ever provide anything unfavorable about Makarios, who was Stavrou's mentor and benefactor.

It is also unlikely that Makarios would ever order the extermination of TCs, his policy was not one of direct violence against TCs. Benign neglect is a more accurate way to describe his policy, and it did not work of course.

If you want to understand Makarios and his actions you must keep in mind that he was not a simple priest, he was a monk, trained from his pre teen years in monastic schools. It is a way of life which teaches supreme self discipline, something Rauf Denktash records in his writings.

A good glimpse in Makarios thinking is given in a book written by his former personal secretary. This book was outlawed in the south. I am looking for a copy but so far have had no luck.

[YFred]

YFred,

This quotation has been surfacing in the news at several occasions, whenever the Greek media want to refer to Makarios they turn to Patroclos Stavrou because he lives in Athens and is well connected with the media, being a writer and commentator himself.

It is extremely unlikely that Stavrou would ever provide anything unfavorable about Makarios, who was Stavrou's mentor and benefactor.

It is also unlikely that Makarios would ever order the extermination of TCs, his policy was not one of direct violence against TCs. Benign neglect is a more accurate way to describe his policy, and it did not work of course.

If you want to understand Makarios and his actions you must keep in mind that he was not a simple priest, he was a monk, trained from his pre teen years in monastic schools. It is a way of life which teaches supreme self discipline, something Rauf Denktash records in his writings.

A good glimpse in Makarios thinking is given in a book written by his former personal secretary. This book was outlawed in the south. I am looking for a copy but so far have had no luck.

We are almost in agreement on that one. I do believe that Makarios changed his mind about removing the TC in a violent way after 67 and decided to use economic means. However the question remains, the very people who harboured such thoughts came to power on 15th Jul till Turkey intervened. Yet GCs on this forum claim that there were no such plans to harm TCs. It’s a murky old world isn’t it?
The truth will always come out in the end.

[Nikitas]

YFred wrote:

"And these people took power in Cyprus but had no plans to kill a single TC. Now that is almost laughable. "

YFred, you must bear in mind that this Papapostolou guy was a sui generis personality even when you judge him agains the backdrop of the Greek junta. He was a special forces officer with very peculiar ideas. He is reputed to have been the local (in Cyprus) planner of the attempts to kill Makarios.

There are hand written texts in Papapostolou's handwriting reporting back to the Junta that Makarios was a traitor to the cause etc.

Papapostolou was withdrawn from Cyprus and retired from the army. He gave a few interviews on Greek TV about his role before 1974 as well as during the invasion when he tried to get to Cyprus with a ferry boat full of Cypriot student volunteers. Among those students were some childhood friends of mine from Famagusta. Their account of what happened differes radically from the accounts provided by Papapostolou on TV. I think the man is a nutter by the way.