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[Kifeas]

Not being Cypriot and having no axe to grind against either side of the green line i have visited areas of the occupied north to look for myself at the countryside and villages that were once mixed communities.
I want to know why such disgraceful behaviour on the part of the occupiers took place??
I refer to the destruction and desecration of Christian churches and even worse in my mind, the destruction and vandalism of Christian Graveyards.
What were you afraid of? the dead can harm no one. They represent no threat yet you have destroyed graves and vandalised them - for what?
Used them as goat pens....these are the actions of Barbarians.
You want tourism, but mainly from christian countries i suspect, and this is how you treat the dead?

I also note that in the South the Mosques there i have visited are in good order and some have even been renovated.
Is this the way your God tells you to respect others? Eternal Shame on you.

I think that Turkey wishes to perpetuate the myth that Cyprus has always been divided into a Turkish north and a Greek south, and in order to perpetuate this myth requires to remove all evidence that contradicts this. I think Turkey is succeeding in creating this impression. Speak to many foreigners who have a casual acquaintance with Cyprus and you will find that they believe that the island has always been divided along ethnic lines as it is now, and that the north has always been populated by Turks.

Tim
You are fairly new to Cyprus so naturally you wouldn't know..This "removing the evidence of other communities past" has been practiced by GC's long time ago..
Up until the end of 19th century there used to be only moslem villages occupied by ancestors of TC's in Cyprus.Each and every one of these villages had a small or a large mosque and a cemetary...Where are they now?
Captain H.H Kitchener's Triconometric map of Cyprus dated 1882 is an excellent evidence for the above claim.

Iceman, I am not quite sure I understand what exactly you are talking about. Can you be more specific and give us some examples of such villages, and also a link to the said map? So far I knew that a good number of mosques in Cyprus were previously Christian churches, and this is also evident by their architectural style, beside other historical accounts, but it’s the first time I hear that exclusively Muslim villages were overtaken by Greek Cypriots and their mosques destroyed.

[paliometoxo]

so funny... they are destroying anything turkish cypriot u think they are going to take care of anything greek cypriot and not destroy it to make room for turkishness and mosques?

[Kifeas]

We should all condemn all desecrations of ALL religious sites, who-ever they belong to. Its a barbaric act and no civilised society should let these hooligans get away with it. The same with cemetaries.

As Halil said, it has happened on both sides. We must condemn these acts and punish the culprits.

Below is a grave in my village (posted by Halil) of an 18 year old relative who got killed in a traffic accident in the 50's. There were more Greek Cypriots at her funeral than Turkish Cypriots.

What happened after 1974 is unacceptable. We are human beings, lets behave like human beings. Sickening.

Deniz, I sense you are a man able to tell the difference between what is the "rule" and what is the "exception." It is a fact that destruction and /or looting of GC or Christian heritage in the north is the rule, but the opposite in the south is rather the exception, without this to mean that it is not equally unacceptable and condemnable.

[BOF]

This is indeed the point i wanted to make - no vandalism of churches or cemetries of any faith is to be condoned.
These usually take the form of individual acts by idiots or a group of thugs.
But the systematic destruction of every gravestone in every cemetery i visited and the subsequent use of them for other purposes so demeaning would suggest there was a policy of destruction or that the entire turkish cypriot population went on a destructive orgy.
Please remember im not a member of the Orthodox church , and that not all the churches and cemeteries desecrated were either.........
I still await a plausible answer.

[The Cypriot]

Tourism?

[halil]

Yes Cypriot-ism .................

Turkish Cypriot cemetery from Kotsiaties ......

Touristic tours are organize by CYPRIOT ..........


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[The Cypriot]

Yes Cypriot-ism .................

Turkish Cypriot cemetery from Kotsiaties ......

Touristic tours are organize by CYPRIOT ..........


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I condemn this mindless act. Do you condemn the systematic destruction of a whole cemetry, Halil? I asked you yesterday and you ignored me. Ignore me again and outside observers will draw their own conclusion.

[halil]

Tourism?

Cypriot-ism ..........Tourism

Turkish Cypriot heritages in Southern Cyprus ................

it is a good car park for tourism .................

İt was a mosque and cemetery are before 1974................ good parking boys..........and girls ................ well come to free areas of Cyprus !!!!!

Free of charge ..............

[Kikapu]

Yes Cypriot-ism .................

Turkish Cypriot cemetery from Kotsiaties ......

Touristic tours are organize by CYPRIOT ..........


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Halil, who's bones are they, where are the rest of the bones, and where is the grave. It looks like just 4 bones in a corner. How does that relate to what The Cypriot posted above. Why are you trying to show something which no one knows where these bones came from to try to match The Cypriots post. Do you condemn desecration of cemeteries or not, and are the TCs and "Turks in Cyprus" be condemned in destroying of graveyards in the north. Don't give me a story of propaganda......please. Just answer YES or NO, that's all.!

[halil]

Yes Cypriot-ism .................

Turkish Cypriot cemetery from Kotsiaties ......

Touristic tours are organize by CYPRIOT ..........


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I condemn this mindless act. Do you condemn the systematic destruction of a whole cemetry, Halil? I asked you yesterday and you ignored me. Ignore me again and outside observers will draw their own conclusion.

I also condemn this mindless act. Both sides are suffered in Cyprus Sir .

I don't ignore u ....

U are the ones who are playing all these games all the time .

New version of the pictures are well documented now Sir and it covers all last condition of the TC's heritages and houses conditions in southern Cyprus now it is free of charge to obtain them from the Talat office .İt was published last week . I will put most of them here as well .....


are u ready to come with me to visit all the places at both side of the island and we can report them in here.