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Should Britain return Gibraltar?

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What should we do with the Rock?

Recognise it as Independent?
5
14%
Recognise it as British?
15
42%
Recognise it as Spanish?
10
28%
Leave it to the Native Monkeys?
6
17%
 
Total votes : 36

Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:42 am

Z4 wrote:Gib should not be Englands fullstop


My, what a fierce intellectual pace you set! :lol:
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Postby Raymanoff » Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:41 am

Leave it to the Native Monkeys?


Perfect example of old colonial mentality... so offensive.

Maybe you also should leave Dekhelia and Akrotiri to "native monkeys"?
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:33 am

Gibraltar is a British overseas territory and is so as a result of history.
As Britain and Spain are both in the EU, does it really matter which country nominally "owns" it, or is this just Spain trying to regain "face"?
Put another way, what's to be gained by all parties concerned?
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:24 am

Raymanoff wrote:
Leave it to the Native Monkeys?


Perfect example of old colonial mentality... so offensive.

Maybe you also should leave Dekhelia and Akrotiri to "native monkeys"?


I am not a colonialist and I wasn't being offensive. Seriously, Gibraltar used to be inhabited purely by these monkeys not so long ago ...


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:) They have a right to be considered too, don't you think?
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:28 am

shahmaran wrote:
Oracle wrote:
purdey wrote:What do the people of Gibraltar want ? I only know 5 and they would like it to remain British.


The problem is purdey ... those liable to vote in a referendum are not natives but colonising, settler Brits ... So, they are bound to swing towards shared sovereignty with Britain.

Can we be grown up enough, rather more worldly-wise than the average European, and see the injustice of such an eventuality?


Oh lovely!

You are so considerate Oracle!

Why don't you try and hold the same view regarding the Kosovo deal? ;)

That would be ever so beyond-the-average-European.

Or are you just going to mumble some hypocritical nonsense and sweep this one under the carpet?

Don't worry I wont tell no one, if you do :lol:


Nope you are 100% correct ... Kosovo should be considered similarly because the natives are the Serbs and not the recent colonising "Mongol Remnants Phase II".
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Postby CBBB » Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:28 am

Do our donkeys (I mean the four-legged ones) get to vote in our referendum?
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:33 am

CBBB wrote:Do our donkeys (I mean the four-legged ones) get to vote in our referendum?


Nope they are represented by the Choirokitian element since they brought them to Cyprus, being their sole means of transport out of Africa .... :)
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:41 am

vaughanwilliams wrote:Gibraltar is a British overseas territory and is so as a result of history.
As Britain and Spain are both in the EU, does it really matter which country nominally "owns" it, or is this just Spain trying to regain "face"?
Put another way, what's to be gained by all parties concerned?


But Britain had a de-colonising process. So, why did it choose to retain some "overseas territory"?

It just seems antagonistic to me ... in view of old rivalries with the Spaniards.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:44 am

Simon wrote:What happens to Gibraltar should be the choice of the Gibraltarians. They recently had their say. A referendum on the rock resulted in 99% wanting to remain British, and rejected any notion of even joint sovereignty. The turnout was well over 50%. You can't really get more conclusive than that. Gibraltar has been British since 1704, and the Spanish ceded it to Britain in 1713. Therefore, British it should remain.


Well there you go Simon .... that is because the residents are all recent British colonialists!

Why ask them?
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:00 am

Oracle wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Oracle wrote:
purdey wrote:What do the people of Gibraltar want ? I only know 5 and they would like it to remain British.


The problem is purdey ... those liable to vote in a referendum are not natives but colonising, settler Brits ... So, they are bound to swing towards shared sovereignty with Britain.

Can we be grown up enough, rather more worldly-wise than the average European, and see the injustice of such an eventuality?


Oh lovely!

You are so considerate Oracle!

Why don't you try and hold the same view regarding the Kosovo deal? ;)

That would be ever so beyond-the-average-European.

Or are you just going to mumble some hypocritical nonsense and sweep this one under the carpet?

Don't worry I wont tell no one, if you do :lol:


Nope you are 100% correct ... Kosovo should be considered similarly because the natives are the Serbs and not the recent colonising "Mongol Remnants Phase II".


So you disagree with your beloved EU and UN?

But you agree with them wholeheartedly when it suits you?

You are claiming that the Serbs had every right to massacre the defenceless Muslims there?

Sound just like your kind of job...

Do you have ANY backbone or are you one of them flexidolls? :lol:
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