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Turkish threat, what now for Greece and Cyprus

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Postby The Cypriot » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:45 pm

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We will not take faulty goods from GCs, its either a partnership via BBF with politcal equality of the 2 founding states or you can kiss goodbye 37% of this island forver. Another 1000 years ?


Thousand years? Do you know how many invaders the Cypriots have seen off over the last few thousand years? What makes you think you're any different to any of the other foreign scum that came, saw, conquered and then conked out? In 1000 years Cyprus will still be Cyprus, its people still Cypriot, and 'Turkey' will be a note in history. A country that was established on Asian Minor in the 20/21st centuries, an artificial, uneasy and psychotic nation, established when nation states were the order of the day.

Viewpoint wrote:and no GC will even remember where they have land in the TRNC which will gradually be recognized as you know


I am not a delusional psychotic so I certainly do not know that the TRNC will gradually be recognised.

Viewpoint wrote:nothing stay the same and a few more rejections of unification by the GCs and the world will force a solution upoin Cyprus


You're hallucinating. If the last 35 years have taught us anything, it's the world cares not a jot for the internal squables on Cyprus. Cypriots on both sides will simply continue to endure.

Viewpoint wrote:which will 2 independent states, your biggest nightmare but even worse for you with no land return 37% 63% split end of story forever.


If the last 9,000 years have taught us anything, it's that the story of Cyprus is an epic tragedy without end. And you're just the latest ugly chapter.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:53 pm

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Thousand years? Do you know how many invaders the Cypriots have seen off over the last few thousand years? What makes you think you're any different to any of the other foreign scum that came, saw, conquered and then conked out? In 1000 years Cyprus will still be Cyprus, its people still Cypriot, and 'Turkey' will be a note in history. A country that was established on Asian Minor in the 20/21st centuries, an artificial, uneasy and psychotic nation, established when nation states were the order of the day.


We are indigenous and not going anywhere, you can try and fool yourself but no one buys what you are peddling, time to see the reality of the divide getting wider and deeper.

I am not a delusional psychotic so I certainly do not know that the TRNC will gradually be recognised.


Never say never if it suits the big boys and solution attempts fail part or full recognition will follow. Carry out your threats walk away from the current talks or reject a now proposal and we will see what will happen, you willing to try?
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Postby growuptcs » Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:59 pm

Viewpoint wrote:The Cypriot
Thousand years? Do you know how many invaders the Cypriots have seen off over the last few thousand years? What makes you think you're any different to any of the other foreign scum that came, saw, conquered and then conked out? In 1000 years Cyprus will still be Cyprus, its people still Cypriot, and 'Turkey' will be a note in history. A country that was established on Asian Minor in the 20/21st centuries, an artificial, uneasy and psychotic nation, established when nation states were the order of the day.


We are indigenous and not going anywhere, you can try and fool yourself but no one buys what you are peddling, time to see the reality of the divide getting wider and deeper.

I am not a delusional psychotic so I certainly do not know that the TRNC will gradually be recognised.


Never say never if it suits the big boys and solution attempts fail part or full recognition will follow. Carry out your threats walk away from the current talks or reject a now proposal and we will see what will happen, you willing to try?


When are you going to give up your desperate whore act?
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:00 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:The Cypriot
Thousand years? Do you know how many invaders the Cypriots have seen off over the last few thousand years? What makes you think you're any different to any of the other foreign scum that came, saw, conquered and then conked out? In 1000 years Cyprus will still be Cyprus, its people still Cypriot, and 'Turkey' will be a note in history. A country that was established on Asian Minor in the 20/21st centuries, an artificial, uneasy and psychotic nation, established when nation states were the order of the day.


We are indigenous and not going anywhere, you can try and fool yourself but no one buys what you are peddling, time to see the reality of the divide getting wider and deeper.

I am not a delusional psychotic so I certainly do not know that the TRNC will gradually be recognised.


Never say never if it suits the big boys and solution attempts fail part or full recognition will follow. Carry out your threats walk away from the current talks or reject a now proposal and we will see what will happen, you willing to try?


When are you going to give up your desperate whore act?


When you give up yours.
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:30 pm

Viewpoint wrote:We are indigenous


Are you? Well start behaving like you are, like the rest of us.

Viewpoint wrote:and not going anywhere,


Who told anyone who is and behaves as an indigenous Cypriot to go anywhere?


Viewpoint wrote: you can try and fool yourself but no one buys what you are peddling, time to see the reality of the divide getting wider and deeper.


I'm not peddling anything other than justice. And justice is not for sale.

Viewpoint wrote:Never say never if it suits the big boys


Big boys come and big boys go, and Cyprus will prevail.

Viewpoint wrote:and solution attempts fail part or full recognition will follow. Carry out your threats walk away from the current talks


You think Cypriots are stupid? They will never walk away from talks to reunify their island. They'll carry on talking until Cyprus is reunified.

Viewpoint wrote:or reject a now proposal and we will see what will happen, you willing to try?


Cypriots will not reject a proposal to reunify their island if they are offered one. Until there is one offered there will be nothing else to reject.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:45 pm

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Are you? Well start behaving like you are, like the rest of us.


We do everyday.

Who told anyone who is and behaves as an indigenous Cypriot to go anywhere?


You do every other post.

I'm not peddling anything other than justice. And justice is not for sale.


You peddle minority status in a GC state run by GC which for us is faulty and therefore unacceptable goods.

Big boys come and big boys go, and Cyprus will prevail.


They aint going nowhere, you are just a pawn in the game time you realized that if they want rocnition for the TRNC it will happen and theres nothing you can do.

You think Cypriots are stupid? They will never walk away from talks to reunify their island. They'll carry on talking until Cyprus is reunified.


Your choice but dont expect to much as the chasm is to wide and getting wider by the day.

Cypriots will not reject a proposal to reunify their island if they are offered one. Until there is one offered there will be nothing else to reject.


You will reject eberything that does not give 100% of your demands allowing a free hand to rule the whole island as you wish, we are here to stop that and strike an equal aprtnership of 2 states under a BBF with political equality, if you not up for what the UN support then reject away please make our day.
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:53 pm

Viewpoint wrote: we are here to stop that and strike an equal aprtnership of 2 states under a BBF with political equality, if you not up for what the UN support then reject away please make our day.


Cypriots will not reject genuine reunification.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:54 pm

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Viewpoint wrote: we are here to stop that and strike an equal aprtnership of 2 states under a BBF with political equality, if you not up for what the UN support then reject away please make our day.


Cypriots will not reject genuine reunification.


Reunificaiton according to GCs?
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Postby The Cypriot » Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:02 am

Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote: we are here to stop that and strike an equal aprtnership of 2 states under a BBF with political equality, if you not up for what the UN support then reject away please make our day.


Cypriots will not reject genuine reunification.


Reunificaiton according to GCs?


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Postby yiannisP » Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:24 am

You peddle minority status in a GC state run by GC which for us is faulty and therefore unacceptable goods.

allowing a free hand to rule the whole island as you wish


I think you are the one doing the peddling Viewpoint. You continue to perpetuate a 'them versus us' mentality which has long ceased to be of any value. Cypriots simply do not want to 'rule over' any ethnic group. Cypriots wish to govern and live together. So please no more talk about separate states. It can never happen because there is no consideration (value being transfered) This is because Turkey holds no title over Cyprus; legally you cannot transfer title in property you know to be stollen either. No civilised legal system will say otherwise. So in effect what you are arguing for is that the Republic gift a part of Cyprus to another country. See it for what it is please and not a 'right' of Turkey as you imply.

Surely you are not so deluded as to fail to recognise the facts about living in a democracy? When aspects of the Republic are deemed unacceptable the answer does not lie in committing war crimes. Even a child can understand why. Look, many people don't have a problem with Cypriots of other creeds or ethnicities anymore. There are many new generations of people being brought up in other countries who have been deprived of their legal rights and chance to engage in their culture. They simply do not understand the divisive propaganda being peddled about separate states. Any grievances should be dealt with internally and then at the EU level. We want to live in the 21stC not in the 20thC.

Hypothetically if a country is predominantly of one ethnic group (let's say caucasian for arguments sake) and that group votes a certain way which would not find favour with a minority ethnic group. Then bar the policy being intollerable to individual rights (such as being discriminatory - you get the idea) then hypothetically should the democratic measure not be put in place? I ask this because it seems to me incompatible with Turkey's view of the situation. They always seem to want exclusive control of areas and for others to legitimize their theft of land in talks over Cyprus. Do they think that the longer the situation drags on for the more legitimate their theft will become? Surely they must know that their request is anathema, illegal and unjust?

The point I'm making to you is that it is abhorrent for a foreign power to help a minority group to overthrow the democratic process by unsurping the legitimate governmental authority in an area, claim exclusive or disproprotionate control in matters, ethnically cleanse, steal property and generally commit war crimes with impunity. Do you not see this as far worse then the grievance which was held in the first place? Do you not see that no lasting peace can ever be found going down this divisive road and the permanent and lasting damage this has caused? (by saying this I'm not trying to absolve any injustice which has been committed by the Republic)

I think I am beginning to understand how Palestinians and Israelis must feel in their disputes after looking into the Cyprus problem. :(
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