Nikitas wrote:YFred:
"Nikitas, 29% will mean about 100000 will have their land back and 60000 will be able to live in the north. That is a realistic proposition. "
I agree it would be a realistic proposition, but every time I read a TC or Turkish official giving his take on this aspect I get the feeling that it is not on the table. Christofias too has confused me when he said that it is possible to have a territorial adjustment that will enable almost all displaced GCs to return and a very small number to be compensated. Try as I might to see how that plan transfers to a map I cannot.
But again, for 60 000 GCs to live under TC administration we need to have full acceptance of the EU aquis, something that Turkey does not want, instead they want a permanent derogation from EU aquis for the northern part of the island. That is why a sliding scale deal should be put on the table, full EU aquis human rights etc, then 25 per cent is fine, less than full human rights and we are talking less territory.
The ideal is a one state solution. But failing the ideal we must be practical and move ahead.
Nikitas wrote:YFred:
"Nikitas, 29% will mean about 100000 will have their land back and 60000 will be able to live in the north. That is a realistic proposition. "
I agree it would be a realistic proposition, but every time I read a TC or Turkish official giving his take on this aspect I get the feeling that it is not on the table. Christofias too has confused me when he said that it is possible to have a territorial adjustment that will enable almost all displaced GCs to return and a very small number to be compensated. Try as I might to see how that plan transfers to a map I cannot.
But again, for 60 000 GCs to live under TC administration we need to have full acceptance of the EU aquis, something that Turkey does not want, instead they want a permanent derogation from EU aquis for the northern part of the island. That is why a sliding scale deal should be put on the table, full EU aquis human rights etc, then 25 per cent is fine, less than full human rights and we are talking less territory.
The ideal is a one state solution. But failing the ideal we must be practical and move ahead.
SoSolidCrew wrote:Nikitas wrote:YFred:
"Nikitas, 29% will mean about 100000 will have their land back and 60000 will be able to live in the north. That is a realistic proposition. "
I agree it would be a realistic proposition, but every time I read a TC or Turkish official giving his take on this aspect I get the feeling that it is not on the table. Christofias too has confused me when he said that it is possible to have a territorial adjustment that will enable almost all displaced GCs to return and a very small number to be compensated. Try as I might to see how that plan transfers to a map I cannot.
But again, for 60 000 GCs to live under TC administration we need to have full acceptance of the EU aquis, something that Turkey does not want, instead they want a permanent derogation from EU aquis for the northern part of the island. That is why a sliding scale deal should be put on the table, full EU aquis human rights etc, then 25 per cent is fine, less than full human rights and we are talking less territory.
The ideal is a one state solution. But failing the ideal we must be practical and move ahead.
Hey boomerang. This guy (Nikitas) have useful ideas, this is what you lack. If I were in South, I'd like to talk with him for hours on Cyprus and dialogue between communities.
boomerang wrote:SoSolidCrew wrote:Nikitas wrote:YFred:
"Nikitas, 29% will mean about 100000 will have their land back and 60000 will be able to live in the north. That is a realistic proposition. "
I agree it would be a realistic proposition, but every time I read a TC or Turkish official giving his take on this aspect I get the feeling that it is not on the table. Christofias too has confused me when he said that it is possible to have a territorial adjustment that will enable almost all displaced GCs to return and a very small number to be compensated. Try as I might to see how that plan transfers to a map I cannot.
But again, for 60 000 GCs to live under TC administration we need to have full acceptance of the EU aquis, something that Turkey does not want, instead they want a permanent derogation from EU aquis for the northern part of the island. That is why a sliding scale deal should be put on the table, full EU aquis human rights etc, then 25 per cent is fine, less than full human rights and we are talking less territory.
The ideal is a one state solution. But failing the ideal we must be practical and move ahead.
Hey boomerang. This guy (Nikitas) have useful ideas, this is what you lack. If I were in South, I'd like to talk with him for hours on Cyprus and dialogue between communities.
provided he doesn't bleed otherwise the smell will send you wild...
SoSolidCrew wrote:boomerang wrote:SoSolidCrew wrote:Nikitas wrote:YFred:
"Nikitas, 29% will mean about 100000 will have their land back and 60000 will be able to live in the north. That is a realistic proposition. "
I agree it would be a realistic proposition, but every time I read a TC or Turkish official giving his take on this aspect I get the feeling that it is not on the table. Christofias too has confused me when he said that it is possible to have a territorial adjustment that will enable almost all displaced GCs to return and a very small number to be compensated. Try as I might to see how that plan transfers to a map I cannot.
But again, for 60 000 GCs to live under TC administration we need to have full acceptance of the EU aquis, something that Turkey does not want, instead they want a permanent derogation from EU aquis for the northern part of the island. That is why a sliding scale deal should be put on the table, full EU aquis human rights etc, then 25 per cent is fine, less than full human rights and we are talking less territory.
The ideal is a one state solution. But failing the ideal we must be practical and move ahead.
Hey boomerang. This guy (Nikitas) have useful ideas, this is what you lack. If I were in South, I'd like to talk with him for hours on Cyprus and dialogue between communities.
provided he doesn't bleed otherwise the smell will send you wild...
Same smell as it was in Srebrenica right?
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