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[shahmaran]

No one is going to blame the US for responding to 2000 deaths with 1 million, are they?

But they would blame the US for responding to ZERO deaths with I million ...

That is the comparison you have to make between Cyprus and Turkey!

There were ZERO TC deaths before Turkey invaded and killed thousands of GCs!

That's bullshit Oracle.

You were not even in control, you were taken over by your own criminals who openly stressed that Cyprus would be cleansed from Turks, so what the fuck are you talking about?

and when do criminals dictate an agenda anywhere?....and where does it say innocents have to pay in blood and rape?...

The same could be asked to you, why did you see fit to massacre 3 villages?

Because the Turks were coming?

Why, my village Lefke, was being prepared for the same fate?

Why?

There is not one of you that can honestly answer that.

Revenge...

now comment on this, way before the masscre of the 3 villages...and they may rest in peace by the way...

Revenge for what?

For putting up with the Greek and GC torture for 11 years?

Or because a few sickos amongst the Greeks and the GC's had finally given Turkey an excuse to invade?

[boomerang]

No one is going to blame the US for responding to 2000 deaths with 1 million, are they?

But they would blame the US for responding to ZERO deaths with I million ...

That is the comparison you have to make between Cyprus and Turkey!

There were ZERO TC deaths before Turkey invaded and killed thousands of GCs!

That's bullshit Oracle.

You were not even in control, you were taken over by your own criminals who openly stressed that Cyprus would be cleansed from Turks, so what the fuck are you talking about?

and when do criminals dictate an agenda anywhere?....and where does it say innocents have to pay in blood and rape?...

The same could be asked to you, why did you see fit to massacre 3 villages?

Because the Turks were coming?

Why, my village Lefke, was being prepared for the same fate?

Why?

There is not one of you that can honestly answer that.

Revenge...

now comment on this, way before the masscre of the 3 villages...and they may rest in peace by the way...

Revenge for what?

For putting up with the Greek and GC torture for 11 years?

Or because a few sickos amongst the Greeks and the GC's had finally given Turkey an excuse to invade?

shah....you said no one can answer you and I did...


a few does not mean 180,00o are to be hold responsible via ethnic cleansing, murder and rape...

it sounds you are not happy with the turks...

now be kind and respond to the video...

[shahmaran]

"Revenge" is not a response Boomerang, it is not even remotely relevant, so you have not answered it.

To be honest the only answer is that, this was their ultimate aim anyways.

The fact that "no one had been hurt for X years" means nothing as this was the inevitable everyone was afraid of, it was just a matter of time and opportunity, and it actually had started!

Why else?

[boomerang]

"Revenge" is not a response Boomerang, it is not even remotely relevant, so you have not answered it.

To be honest the only answer is that, this was their ultimate aim anyways.

The fact that "no one had been hurt for X years" means nothing as this was the inevitable everyone was afraid of, it was just a matter of time and opportunity, and it actually had started!

Why else?

yes it was revenge ...shah if the whole population was against tcs nothing would have saved them...

now answer on the video....you seemed to be avoiding it...

[Piratis]

No one is going to blame the US for responding to 2000 deaths with 1 million, are they?

But they would blame the US for responding to ZERO deaths with I million ...

That is the comparison you have to make between Cyprus and Turkey!

There were ZERO TC deaths before Turkey invaded and killed thousands of GCs!

That's bullshit Oracle.

You were not even in control, you were taken over by your own criminals who openly stressed that Cyprus would be cleansed from Turks, so what the fuck are you talking about?

You said that the criminals who took over in 1974 "openly stressed that Cyprus would be cleansed from Turks". Can you show me anything to support this claim? Since it was "openly stressed" you should be able to find a lot of evidence that document this openly stressed policy in 1974.

Also please explain why in the 5 days between the coup and the invasion not a single TC was killed, if there was such policy.

Also tell me why if the Junta had such policy, why didn't they implement it in Greece either, which the ruled for years?

As I have showed in my first post, even if TCs were actually killed by the coupists (like the coupists killed several GCs), still that wouldn't be an excuse for the Turks to kill 1000s and ethnically cleanse 100s of thousands of innocent people.

But apparently you don't agree with this. What you are saying is that even if you imagined that the coupists would kill TCs, that alone justified the killing and ethnic cleansing of innocents???

But then you don't maintain the same position when it comes to the TC casualties, and you say that even the actual massacre of 1000s of GCs could not be an excuse for the murder of TCs?

Can't you see the inconsistency of your position and that it is entirely racist?

Why is it so difficult for you to admit that the killings and ethnic cleansing of innocent people was wrong and inexcusable, and stop applying this obviously hypocritical and racist double standards?

Is it maybe because you know that if you did so, everything that you support about "peace operation" and the results of it would collapse?

[shahmaran]

"Revenge" is not a response Boomerang, it is not even remotely relevant, so you have not answered it.

To be honest the only answer is that, this was their ultimate aim anyways.

The fact that "no one had been hurt for X years" means nothing as this was the inevitable everyone was afraid of, it was just a matter of time and opportunity, and it actually had started!

Why else?

yes it was revenge ...shah if the whole population was against tcs nothing would have saved them...

now answer on the video....you seemed to be avoiding it...

Well then, I guess then that's the answer to the video too Boomerang.

If "revenge" is an acceptable excuse than the TC's had almost 20 years of revenge to be taken.

What revenge were you taking between those dates?

And please don't say the 1500's

[Piratis]

I will also add that since the war between Turkey and Greece ended, Greece respected the treaty of Lausanne and the Muslim (according to the treaty) minority of Greece has vastly increased in numbers since then. On the contrary it is Turkey which showed no respect to the treaty and has a policy of exterminating all Greeks from Turkey, something which to the most part they succeeded doing.

The same policy of extermination was followed in Cyprus with the partition plan made in the 50s and the implementation of this plan in 1974.

[shahmaran]

No one is going to blame the US for responding to 2000 deaths with 1 million, are they?

But they would blame the US for responding to ZERO deaths with I million ...

That is the comparison you have to make between Cyprus and Turkey!

There were ZERO TC deaths before Turkey invaded and killed thousands of GCs!

That's bullshit Oracle.

You were not even in control, you were taken over by your own criminals who openly stressed that Cyprus would be cleansed from Turks, so what the fuck are you talking about?

You said that the criminals who took over in 1974 "openly stressed that Cyprus would be cleansed from Turks". Can you show me anything to support this claim? Since it was "openly stressed" you should be able to find a lot of evidence that document this openly stressed policy in 1974.

Also please explain why in the 5 days between the coup and the invasion not a single TC was killed, if there was such policy.

Also tell me why if the Junta had such policy, why didn't they implement it in Greece either, which the ruled for years?

As I have showed in my first post, even if TCs were actually killed by the coupists (like the coupists killed several GCs), still that wouldn't be an excuse for the Turks to kill 1000s and ethnically cleanse 100s of thousands of innocent people.

But apparently you don't agree with this. What you are saying is that even if you imagined that the coupists would kill TCs, that alone justified the killing and ethnic cleansing of innocents???

But then you don't maintain the same position when it comes to the TC casualties, and you say that even the actual massacre of 1000s of GCs could not be an excuse for the murder of TCs?

Can't you see the inconsistency of your position and that it is entirely racist?

Why is it so difficult for you to admit that the killings and ethnic cleansing of innocent people was wrong and inexcusable, and stop applying this obviously hypocritical and racist double standards?

Is it maybe because you know that if you did so, everything that you support about "peace operation" and the results of it would collapse?

No inconsistencies on this side Piratis I have never changed my views ever, none on yours either except that you are looking through very racist eyes and combining what you see with very twisted historical facts.

I have already seen the credibility of your "sources" who are you kidding?

Plus you know very well what the words of Sampson were, about him succeeding.

The 3 massacred villages were just a hint of how true they were and how it was the inevitable.

You might not have supported it, but would not have been able to stop it either.

[Oracle]

No one is going to blame the US for responding to 2000 deaths with 1 million, are they?

But they would blame the US for responding to ZERO deaths with I million ...

That is the comparison you have to make between Cyprus and Turkey!

There were ZERO TC deaths before Turkey invaded and killed thousands of GCs!

That's bullshit Oracle.

You were not even in control, you were taken over by your own criminals who openly stressed that Cyprus would be cleansed from Turks, so what the fuck are you talking about?

What precisely is bullshit?

You chose the analogy ... that the US would be supported even if they killed 1 Million for the sake of their losses of 2,000. But presumably they would not be supported (not that I condone their actions) if they rushed in and killed 1 Million Iraqis, had they suffered ZERO losses themselves. They needed those casualties as EXCUSES.

Then you tried to adopt that and justify Turkey invading Cyprus.

Well it doesn't work! ... because there were ZERO casualties when Turkey invaded Cyprus and killed THOUSANDS of GCs! If America was justified, Turkey was NOT!

Also, no one made such statements as you claim before the invasion (and only one idiot did so after)!

[shahmaran]

I will also add that since the war between Turkey and Greece ended, Greece respected the treaty of Lausanne and the Muslim (according to the treaty) minority of Greece has vastly increased in numbers since then. On the contrary it is Turkey which showed no respect to the treaty and has a policy of exterminating all Greeks from Turkey, something which to the most part they succeeded doing.

The same policy of extermination was followed in Cyprus with the partition plan made in the 50s and the implementation of this plan in 1974.

That is utter crap because the Turks in Thrace still complain about the lack of rights, and it is coming form a so called EU member.

Also the "extermination of Greeks" was not exactly a "policy" but an illegally planned operation by a bastard party who brought Turkey back many years, the leader was executed for it.

How can you call that a "policy" and actually blame it on the "Turks".

This is exactly what I mean by "twisted history" and unreliable sources coming from a very racist person.