by shahmaran » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:47 pm
Oracle wrote:I think it's rather contradictory of Deniz, to aspire to be a Cypriot, yet revere this historical murderer, Ataturk, who invites comparisons to Hitler with his genocidal and expansionist deeds. Ataturk's 'Cult of Personality' must be the envy of Stalin ...
by Oracle » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:50 pm
Oracle wrote:As SuperNanny, I hereby declare the return of Deniz ... suitably rehabilitated after a night on the Naughty step!
Deniz ... POST NOW!
by Get Real! » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:51 pm
Get Real! wrote:I think it’s dumb that we even mention Ataturk on this forum…he has nothing to do with Cyprus and the man has been dead and buried for almost a century!
Let it go people, it’s a waste of breath!
by Oracle » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:53 pm
Get Real! wrote:Get Real! wrote:I think it’s dumb that we even mention Ataturk on this forum…he has nothing to do with Cyprus and the man has been dead and buried for almost a century!
Let it go people, it’s a waste of breath!
Don’t make me start a “Leave Ataturk alone!” campaign…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmvkRoE ... re=related
by shahmaran » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:05 pm
Oracle wrote:Shamaran shoosh, you are in no position to object to anyone who recognises Ataturk for the evil-doer to the world that he was/is.!
Anyway, we're waiting for Deniz...Oracle wrote:As SuperNanny, I hereby declare the return of Deniz ... suitably rehabilitated after a night on the Naughty step!
Deniz ... POST NOW!
by Kikapu » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:13 pm
Oracle wrote:As SuperNanny, I hereby declare the return of Deniz ... suitably rehabilitated after a night on the Naughty step!
Deniz ... POST NOW!
by boomerang » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:35 pm
shahmaran wrote:Atatürk reforms and struggle for independence caused a great deal of hate to arise amongst many groups in Turkey.
Mostly amongst the people who were against the idea of a single united Turkey, such as the minorities who were easily convinced and used to rise up by the Imperialists, in order to further push their divisive agendas, in order to make use of the opportunity that came from a newly collapsed Empire.
Also amongst the many Ottoman supporters who fought hard to get the Imperialist demands accepted and of course the radical Islamists who's lives had been turned up side down with the sudden change in lifestyle such as clothing, the end of the Caliphate and of course women rights, are just a few.
Not an easy job trying to modernize a nation that has been deep a sleep under the Ottoman/Islam opiate for centuries, with hardly any education, while trying to gain independence at the same time.
You are working against many odds and you are bound to make a lot of enemies.
I assure you the people you have met will definitely fall into one of these categories as no self-respecting educated Turk would hold such views, especially not when they are fully aware of what the alternative could have been.
by boomerang » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:36 pm
Kikapu wrote:Oracle wrote:As SuperNanny, I hereby declare the return of Deniz ... suitably rehabilitated after a night on the Naughty step!
Deniz ... POST NOW!
Why don't you post the picture of yourself taken sitting on the rocks which I'm sure Deniz would find it more appealing than the image of you being a "SuperNanny". !
By the way, Oracle, I have a title for that picture of yours, but I'm not so sure if it would pass your "sensitivity" guidelines.! Depends on how much sence of humour you have.!
by Kikapu » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:48 pm
boomerang wrote:Kikapu wrote:Oracle wrote:As SuperNanny, I hereby declare the return of Deniz ... suitably rehabilitated after a night on the Naughty step!
Deniz ... POST NOW!
Why don't you post the picture of yourself taken sitting on the rocks which I'm sure Deniz would find it more appealing than the image of you being a "SuperNanny". !
By the way, Oracle, I have a title for that picture of yours, but I'm not so sure if it would pass your "sensitivity" guidelines.! Depends on how much sence of humour you have.!
spit it out kiks...
by shahmaran » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:48 pm
boomerang wrote:shahmaran wrote:Atatürk reforms and struggle for independence caused a great deal of hate to arise amongst many groups in Turkey.
Mostly amongst the people who were against the idea of a single united Turkey, such as the minorities who were easily convinced and used to rise up by the Imperialists, in order to further push their divisive agendas, in order to make use of the opportunity that came from a newly collapsed Empire.
Also amongst the many Ottoman supporters who fought hard to get the Imperialist demands accepted and of course the radical Islamists who's lives had been turned up side down with the sudden change in lifestyle such as clothing, the end of the Caliphate and of course women rights, are just a few.
Not an easy job trying to modernize a nation that has been deep a sleep under the Ottoman/Islam opiate for centuries, with hardly any education, while trying to gain independence at the same time.
You are working against many odds and you are bound to make a lot of enemies.
I assure you the people you have met will definitely fall into one of these categories as no self-respecting educated Turk would hold such views, especially not when they are fully aware of what the alternative could have been.
but these are people with feelings shah...if you accept this then you must accept what the extremists were doing in Cyprus at the time...about the minorities and all that...
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