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[Sotos]

Do you see Greece or any Greek on that list? If there was a Greek on that list he wouldn't be our idol. If the idol of Turks is a mega murderer then it tells a lot about what kind of people they are!!

[denizaksulu]

Do you see Greece or any Greek on that list? If there was a Greek on that list he wouldn't be our idol. If the idol of Turks is a mega murderer then it tells a lot about what kind of people they are!!

Ha ha bloody ha.
Depends if that list was made by anybody with any credibility. Having Ataturks name there in brackets says everything.

Now sOROS, sod off or better FUCK OFF!!!

[Sotos]

The list is from a USA university you moron. Why would they want to lie about it? They are your best buddies! As if there is anybody who doesn't know about the millions that Ataturk and other Turkish criminals murdered!!

[Turan Tankgirl]

attaturk the gay founded the gays

He was not only a gay but even a jew from a family from Spain and born in the Jerusalem of the North (Saloniki) & that's the reason why he was rewarded with a monument or denkmall in Amsterdam

http://www.noord.amsterdam.nl/smartsite ... ijnummer=1

[shahmaran]

I'm not going to express my own views on this issue, but Shahmaran, remember that the Nobel Peace Prize is not a good benchmark for ascertaining a person's virtues...they gave it to Mother Theresa, who was a deluded christian monster and believed innocent people should suffer and die for Jesus, and to F.W de Klerk, who authorized the covert assassinations of thousands of people...
Frankly, I think it's dangerous to give ANY person, whether they be Nelson Mandela or Adolf Hitler, the kind of cultish praise that I've seen people give Ataturk (and Makarios) on this forum. (Shahmaran I'm not accusing you of doing this but others have done so), and on balance, I don't think anyone HONESTLY admires this man as much as they say they do, it's a knee-jerk reaction to being challenged on one's national history, much like how some Greeks lavish praise on people like Makarios.
We all know these people did more harm than good and they should be remembered as sources of great shame, but at the same time they shouldn't become a means of defining and insulting a whole race group (Sotos I'm not saying that you are doing that with this thread, but that is probably where it will lead).

Dzimeuk I am not blaming you with anything but have some backbone man, come right out and say exactly what you mean!!

No point in lingering in the middle, hoping not to step on any one's toes while mumbling stuff and not really saying anything!

Don't worry we are all big boys we can take it

Where have I "praised" the Noble prizes, they gave them to Orhan Pamuk ffs!

I just thought it was a funny irony that the Greeks themselves had put Atatürk forward after being humiliatingly defeated by him.

Just pulling Sotos's thats all

[shahmaran]

Strong secular democracy with dozens of new mosques goin up in northern Cyprus, and the ergenekon trial going on in Turkey where a whole bunch of Kemalists are accused of plotting to establish a dictatorship. Kenan Evren was also a Kemalist, as were all the rest of the Turkish dictators.

A strong democracy where the national security council, composed of top military men, tell the elected civilians what is what.

Strong democracy is one where the civilians appoint the military and can also fire them with no repercussions. Turkey will have a long way to go before it can get to that point. IF it ever does.

Everything you are talking of so far are the doings of AKP Nikitas, for such a backward party to actually still be alive in Turkey is a good sign that the democracy is working just fine.

Also Kenan Evren is hated by 70 million.

[shahmaran]

The list is from a USA university you moron. Why would they want to lie about it? They are your best buddies! As if there is anybody who doesn't know about the millions that Ataturk and other Turkish criminals murdered!!

Sotos shitforbrains, you have even managed to get Deniz to swear, further proves what an imbecile you really are

If you read your shitty little list REALLY slowly maybe you can see that he is not in the "millions" AND that this list is created by another historically challenged baboon such as yourself.

Read some books Sotos, or even better, do everyone a favour and just go fuck yourself till death

[Sotos]

The Germans do not deny the Holocaust. Why do you deny what we all know? You think anybody will like you any better if you deny the truth. Better admit your crimes and say sorry to the millions you killed because you wanted to steal lands that didn't belong to you.

[shahmaran]

The Germans do not deny the Holocaust. Why do you deny what we all know? You think anybody will like you any better if you deny the truth. Better admit your crimes and say sorry to the millions you killed because you wanted to steal lands that didn't belong to you.

Who the hell killed millions?

Are you not taking your shit-for-brains pills again?

[denizaksulu]

The Germans do not deny the Holocaust. Why do you deny what we all know? You think anybody will like you any better if you deny the truth. Better admit your crimes and say sorry to the millions you killed because you wanted to steal lands that didn't belong to you.

I will put another spin on this SOD OFF.

In the same vein that the massacre of TCs was as revenge for the Turkish Army landing in Cyprus in 1974 (which I have always found objectionable) the same could be said of Mustafa Kemal (he was not called Ataturk till 1934), whe he was fighting the foreign invaders (the French, Italians Greeks, Kurds) the Turkish peasant army had fond out that teir kinand folk had been brutally massacred by the Greek invasion forces.

So if you and your kind are going to make excuses, think again you imbecile.

You should read Greek Generals accounts of the 'ethnic cleansing they had put into operation in Western Turkey in order to achieve their 'Megalo Idea'.

Now SOD OFF, Sotos or better still grow up.