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[wyoming cowboy]

Fuck you and your coming off the boat in Kyrenia in peace...You werent there to see the damageto civilians these bastards did the first day when the there was no army to defend.them. When your hashish smoking bastard soldiers were killing civilians . Go and see all the mass graves in Kyrenia and all the surrounding villages where they are finding 10 year old kids shot 16 times .....

They should have. So you would not be lying anymore.

If I was lying you would have been able to provide facts to prove me wrong. Like it is so easy for me to prove you wrong when you are lying all the time.

But I am 100% correct on this, which is reflected in your absolute inability to counter what I say.

It is amazing how brainwashed some people like you are. You have been fed the fairy tale that Turkey invaded Cyprus to save the TC who were supposdedly massacured, and when the facts and the truth is given to you, which contradict the lies you have been fed to excuse the illegal criminal invasion of Turkey, you prefer to close your eyes and continue to believe to the lies you were fed.

Your arguement falls flat because for whatever reason Turkey arrived it played out in our favour as we are all still alive and thank them for all their support over the 35 years they have provided us with a safe haven from GC aggression and discrimination, our lives have improved 1000 fold from the days when we were supposed to be living together with our "compatriots".

How is this related with my argument? What I said, which is a fact, is that it is the Turks who as always started the killings in 1974. The story that they came to save the TCs who were supposedly being killed, is a big fat lie of the Turkish propaganda and nothing more.

Beyond that, if you enjoy your life better now that you stole the properties of 100s of thousands of innocent people and profited on their loss, or because now you can pretend that you rule a territory which belongs to us by 80%, is another story. However you continue to face the consequences of your illegal actions, and these consequences will get more and more as the time passes, as the ECJ case showed. In the end the 90% of you will emigrate abroad, and you will be logging-in the forum from UK and Australia, claiming that life in Cyprus is now so much better for you

You are yet again wrong in your thought process you are writing what you want to believe not what the reality is, did Turkey arrive and kick your butts? did you kill them first on the shores of Kyrenia coming off the boats? why did you not hand them flowers when they arrived to save everyone, or were your hands so blood stained and your minds full of guilt that you had to stop them from discovering the truth about the previous 11 years?

Piratis you can be guaranteed one thing as long as there is no agree solution the population in the TRNC will grow we are 500.000 and growing in 20 years time we will have passed your population and have 2nd 3rd new generation TCs, the propaganda about us disapearing in GC manufactured to scare original TCs into thinking they will disappear well in fact our population growth is a mixture of Turks who arrived 450 years and those after that time. IN 40 50 years time you will be begging for partition as you will not want to give the TCs living in the north 1 vote one man as they will outvote you on everything and then you will have something to scream about.

The non recognition will not last forever and we are preapred to wait even, so you continue to collect all rulings and decisions you want, we will be around in the TRNC for a long time to come or if at any stage you decide to comprehend that you now have to share this island with TCs under a BBF with politcal equality of the states then you may get somewhere otherwise we are prepared for much worse as the alternative is unthinkable.

[Viewpoint]

Fuck you and your coming off the boat in Kyrenia in peace...You werent there to see the damageto civilians these bastards did the first day when the there was no army to defend.them. When your hashish smoking bastard soldiers were killing civilians . Go and see all the mass graves in Kyrenia and all the surrounding villages where they are finding 10 year old kids shot 16 times .....

They should have. So you would not be lying anymore.

If I was lying you would have been able to provide facts to prove me wrong. Like it is so easy for me to prove you wrong when you are lying all the time.

But I am 100% correct on this, which is reflected in your absolute inability to counter what I say.

It is amazing how brainwashed some people like you are. You have been fed the fairy tale that Turkey invaded Cyprus to save the TC who were supposdedly massacured, and when the facts and the truth is given to you, which contradict the lies you have been fed to excuse the illegal criminal invasion of Turkey, you prefer to close your eyes and continue to believe to the lies you were fed.

Your arguement falls flat because for whatever reason Turkey arrived it played out in our favour as we are all still alive and thank them for all their support over the 35 years they have provided us with a safe haven from GC aggression and discrimination, our lives have improved 1000 fold from the days when we were supposed to be living together with our "compatriots".

How is this related with my argument? What I said, which is a fact, is that it is the Turks who as always started the killings in 1974. The story that they came to save the TCs who were supposedly being killed, is a big fat lie of the Turkish propaganda and nothing more.

Beyond that, if you enjoy your life better now that you stole the properties of 100s of thousands of innocent people and profited on their loss, or because now you can pretend that you rule a territory which belongs to us by 80%, is another story. However you continue to face the consequences of your illegal actions, and these consequences will get more and more as the time passes, as the ECJ case showed. In the end the 90% of you will emigrate abroad, and you will be logging-in the forum from UK and Australia, claiming that life in Cyprus is now so much better for you

You are yet again wrong in your thought process you are writing what you want to believe not what the reality is, did Turkey arrive and kick your butts? did you kill them first on the shores of Kyrenia coming off the boats? why did you not hand them flowers when they arrived to save everyone, or were your hands so blood stained and your minds full of guilt that you had to stop them from discovering the truth about the previous 11 years?

Piratis you can be guaranteed one thing as long as there is no agree solution the population in the TRNC will grow we are 500.000 and growing in 20 years time we will have passed your population and have 2nd 3rd new generation TCs, the propaganda about us disapearing in GC manufactured to scare original TCs into thinking they will disappear well in fact our population growth is a mixture of Turks who arrived 450 years and those after that time. IN 40 50 years time you will be begging for partition as you will not want to give the TCs living in the north 1 vote one man as they will outvote you on everything and then you will have something to scream about.

The non recognition will not last forever and we are preapred to wait even, so you continue to collect all rulings and decisions you want, we will be around in the TRNC for a long time to come or if at any stage you decide to comprehend that you now have to share this island with TCs under a BBF with politcal equality of the states then you may get somewhere otherwise we are prepared for much worse as the alternative is unthinkable.

Fuck you, how can soldiers try to land on the shores of Kyrenia kill civilians? their casulties were so high that the Turkish airforce had to step in, you brought on the full ferocity of Turkisharmy no one else. then all hell broke loose.

[SoSolidCrew]

Fuck you and your coming off the boat in Kyrenia in peace...You werent there to see the damageto civilians these bastards did the first day when the there was no army to defend.them. When your hashish smoking bastard soldiers were killing civilians . Go and see all the mass graves in Kyrenia and all the surrounding villages where they are finding 10 year old kids shot 16 times .....

They should have. So you would not be lying anymore.

If I was lying you would have been able to provide facts to prove me wrong. Like it is so easy for me to prove you wrong when you are lying all the time.

But I am 100% correct on this, which is reflected in your absolute inability to counter what I say.

It is amazing how brainwashed some people like you are. You have been fed the fairy tale that Turkey invaded Cyprus to save the TC who were supposdedly massacured, and when the facts and the truth is given to you, which contradict the lies you have been fed to excuse the illegal criminal invasion of Turkey, you prefer to close your eyes and continue to believe to the lies you were fed.

Your arguement falls flat because for whatever reason Turkey arrived it played out in our favour as we are all still alive and thank them for all their support over the 35 years they have provided us with a safe haven from GC aggression and discrimination, our lives have improved 1000 fold from the days when we were supposed to be living together with our "compatriots".

How is this related with my argument? What I said, which is a fact, is that it is the Turks who as always started the killings in 1974. The story that they came to save the TCs who were supposedly being killed, is a big fat lie of the Turkish propaganda and nothing more.

Beyond that, if you enjoy your life better now that you stole the properties of 100s of thousands of innocent people and profited on their loss, or because now you can pretend that you rule a territory which belongs to us by 80%, is another story. However you continue to face the consequences of your illegal actions, and these consequences will get more and more as the time passes, as the ECJ case showed. In the end the 90% of you will emigrate abroad, and you will be logging-in the forum from UK and Australia, claiming that life in Cyprus is now so much better for you

You are yet again wrong in your thought process you are writing what you want to believe not what the reality is, did Turkey arrive and kick your butts? did you kill them first on the shores of Kyrenia coming off the boats? why did you not hand them flowers when they arrived to save everyone, or were your hands so blood stained and your minds full of guilt that you had to stop them from discovering the truth about the previous 11 years?

Piratis you can be guaranteed one thing as long as there is no agree solution the population in the TRNC will grow we are 500.000 and growing in 20 years time we will have passed your population and have 2nd 3rd new generation TCs, the propaganda about us disapearing in GC manufactured to scare original TCs into thinking they will disappear well in fact our population growth is a mixture of Turks who arrived 450 years and those after that time. IN 40 50 years time you will be begging for partition as you will not want to give the TCs living in the north 1 vote one man as they will outvote you on everything and then you will have something to scream about.

The non recognition will not last forever and we are preapred to wait even, so you continue to collect all rulings and decisions you want, we will be around in the TRNC for a long time to come or if at any stage you decide to comprehend that you now have to share this island with TCs under a BBF with politcal equality of the states then you may get somewhere otherwise we are prepared for much worse as the alternative is unthinkable.

Lets talk about the EOKA massacre... Greeks killed 9 yo children in bathrooms. And not just one, dozens.

I am glad because after the Turkish operation, none of Turkish 'Cypriots' were killed by EOKA and other Greek fascist terrorist groups.

[Oracle]

Lets talk about the EOKA massacre... Greeks killed 9 yo children in bathrooms. And not just one, dozens.

Another psychedelic drugged up Turkish fantasist ...

How many TCs had "bathrooms" in the 60's ?

[SoSolidCrew]

Lets talk about the EOKA massacre... Greeks killed 9 yo children in bathrooms. And not just one, dozens.

Another psychedelic drugged up Turkish fantasist ...

How many TCs had "bathrooms" in the 60's ?

That boys had:

[Oracle]

That's already been proven as staged!

Where are the "dozens" you quoted?

[Piratis]

Piratis

Viewpoint, are you a complete idiot to believe that there is even a single person, even a Turk/TC, who doesn't know what the aim of the Turkish invasion was right from the very first moment? Nobody believes your crap mate. On the day of the invasion the UN issued a resolution demanding the respect of the sovereignty of the Republic of Cyprus and the withdrawal of all foreign troops. (http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr354.htm) If Turkey was acting on behalf of the UN doing a "peace operation", they wouldn't issue such a resolution would they? Your excuses are so lame that show clearly how guilty you are.

You are the moron here Piratis as it was with the blood on your hands, 11 years of persecution and discrimination of TCs, the greedy rush to gift Cyprus to Greece and the risk of TCs being wiped out forever that gave Turkey the pass to intervene in order to try and restore order but what did you do arm yourselves for 11 years to kill anyone who may extend a hand to the TCs. You killed them so in reality you unleased the full verocity of an army. You brough all these problems upon yourselves and to this day we are still not able to find middle to resolve things that why Turkey will remain.

Nobody gave any pass to Turkey. What you have done was and continues to be criminal and illegal and nobody is buying your lies and cheap excuses.

Your plan to annihilate every native Cypriot from half of Cyprus was made in the 50s, before any conflict started. The inter-communal conflict which you started, and the war of 1974 which again you started, were all part of your plan to exterminate Cypriots from half of their island and steal our lands.

If those people are Cypriots then why do you have to negotiate their stay in Cyprus? It clearly shows that if we do not accept that they can be Cypriots, they will never be Cypriots no matter what.
The same goes with land and a "Turkish State" of any kind. It can happen only if we accept such thing to happen.

If we do not agree, then all settlers remain illegal, and every single inch of Cyprus remains the territory of a unitary Republic of Cyprus.

ANd you can only solve the issues you face if we say yes, this is a 50% weight just like you we have the right to say YEs or NO, do you realize this as it appears you seem to think all you have to do is say yes and things will be ok, well thinks again.

You are wrong. Republic of Cyprus has the right to protect its own territory from invaders by all means possible. We choose to negotiate, not because we have to, but because the balance of power currently favors Turkey. But this will not always be the case.

Therefore if you are not smart enough to accept a solution today that will be acceptable to us as well, and you wait, then not only your pseudo state will never be recognized, not only those Turkish settlers will never become Cypriots, not only you will continue to suffer the consequences of your crimes and illegalities, but when the balance of power will change eventually (a matter of when, not a matter of if) we will not have to make the compromises we are blackmailed to make now, and every single Settler will be returned to his homeland. And since you say that you are foreign Settlers as well, then the same thing will happen to you. And all this will happen 100% legally.

Piratis again you are being very stupid we are willing to accept a TRNC a thousands times worse than capitulate to GC dominance and discriminaitons, we are partners in a BBF with political equality, exactly as the UN and the world prescribes. You can take your chnaces and wait for a swing in power but whos to say it will go your way? I recommend you take whats on offer now buşld confidence between the 2 states therefore allowing both sides to understand that further relaxation of rules and regulations will benefit everyone and that we can trust each other for the first time.

What you got now is the max you can get. If you thought you can blackmail us and force us to accept your terms you are wrong.

We are not partners in any BBF. We could be, with us being the major partners and you the minor partners, if you accept that any TC state will be made out of territory which belongs exclusively to TCs and which will not be more than the 18% of Cyprus. You can't have a TC state on land which belongs to GCs, and it is time for you to understand this.

Until you accept a real BBF as described above there is no partnership. What there is, is the one and only legal state in Cyprus, the Republic of Cyprus, ruled democratically by the native Cypriot people, and a pseudo state declared illegally by Turks on our island, which is of course recognized by nobody.

[SoSolidCrew]

That's already been proven as staged!

Where are the "dozens" you quoted?

Proven? Just because a goverment-controlled journalist said it?

I cant believe how brainwashed and full of hate you GCs are.

[Piratis]

That's already been proven as staged!

Where are the "dozens" you quoted?

Proven? Just because a goverment-controlled journalist said it?

I cant believe how brainwashed and full of hate you GCs are.

If we were full of hate we would invade other countries, kill the native people, and try to steal their land. We are not the ones who are doing that, right?

[SoSolidCrew]

Piratis

Viewpoint, are you a complete idiot to believe that there is even a single person, even a Turk/TC, who doesn't know what the aim of the Turkish invasion was right from the very first moment? Nobody believes your crap mate. On the day of the invasion the UN issued a resolution demanding the respect of the sovereignty of the Republic of Cyprus and the withdrawal of all foreign troops. (http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr354.htm) If Turkey was acting on behalf of the UN doing a "peace operation", they wouldn't issue such a resolution would they? Your excuses are so lame that show clearly how guilty you are.

You are the moron here Piratis as it was with the blood on your hands, 11 years of persecution and discrimination of TCs, the greedy rush to gift Cyprus to Greece and the risk of TCs being wiped out forever that gave Turkey the pass to intervene in order to try and restore order but what did you do arm yourselves for 11 years to kill anyone who may extend a hand to the TCs. You killed them so in reality you unleased the full verocity of an army. You brough all these problems upon yourselves and to this day we are still not able to find middle to resolve things that why Turkey will remain.

Nobody gave any pass to Turkey. What you have done was and continues to be criminal and illegal and nobody is buying your lies and cheap excuses.

Your plan to annihilate every native Cypriot from half of Cyprus was made in the 50s, before any conflict started. The inter-communal conflict which you started, and the war of 1974 which again you started, were all part of your plan to exterminate Cypriots from half of their island and steal our lands.

If those people are Cypriots then why do you have to negotiate their stay in Cyprus? It clearly shows that if we do not accept that they can be Cypriots, they will never be Cypriots no matter what.
The same goes with land and a "Turkish State" of any kind. It can happen only if we accept such thing to happen.

If we do not agree, then all settlers remain illegal, and every single inch of Cyprus remains the territory of a unitary Republic of Cyprus.

ANd you can only solve the issues you face if we say yes, this is a 50% weight just like you we have the right to say YEs or NO, do you realize this as it appears you seem to think all you have to do is say yes and things will be ok, well thinks again.

You are wrong. Republic of Cyprus has the right to protect its own territory from invaders by all means possible. We choose to negotiate, not because we have to, but because the balance of power currently favors Turkey. But this will not always be the case.

Therefore if you are not smart enough to accept a solution today that will be acceptable to us as well, and you wait, then not only your pseudo state will never be recognized, not only those Turkish settlers will never become Cypriots, not only you will continue to suffer the consequences of your crimes and illegalities, but when the balance of power will change eventually (a matter of when, not a matter of if) we will not have to make the compromises we are blackmailed to make now, and every single Settler will be returned to his homeland. And since you say that you are foreign Settlers as well, then the same thing will happen to you. And all this will happen 100% legally.

Piratis again you are being very stupid we are willing to accept a TRNC a thousands times worse than capitulate to GC dominance and discriminaitons, we are partners in a BBF with political equality, exactly as the UN and the world prescribes. You can take your chnaces and wait for a swing in power but whos to say it will go your way? I recommend you take whats on offer now buşld confidence between the 2 states therefore allowing both sides to understand that further relaxation of rules and regulations will benefit everyone and that we can trust each other for the first time.

What you got now is the max you can get. If you thought you can blackmail us and force us to accept your terms you are wrong.

We are not partners in any BBF. We could be, with us being the major partners and you the minor partners, if you accept that any TC state will be made out of territory which belongs exclusively to TCs and which will not be more than the 18% of Cyprus. You can't have a TC state on land which belongs to GCs, and it is time for you to understand this.

Until you accept a real BBF as described above there is no partnership. What there is, is the one and only legal state in Cyprus, the Republic of Cyprus, ruled democratically by the native Cypriot people, and a pseudo state declared illegally by Turks on our island, which is of course recognized by nobody.

Just one sentence: GCs thought they could get rid of Turks and create a Hellenic union, they did not expect a Turkish operation, however they were weak, are weak and will remain week, thats who GCs failed.