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[Kikapu]

Lives improved 1000fold, the population fell 3fold, strange way to define improvement.

500.000 live in the TRNC, falling population??? you are mad.

At present, 70,000 TCs with voting rights and 430,000 Illegal Aliens with ZERO voting rights in any future Cyprus.!

In 20 years time, 7,000 TCs with voting rights and 993,000 Illegal Aliens with ZERO voting rights in any future Cyprus.!

More does not mean better, it just means more.!

Quality is always better than Quantity.!

Well, unless you are talking about 72 virgins in heaven, then that's another story all together.!

Give it another 1000 years of no solution and no one will know the difference.

Well, unless you are talking about 72 virgins in heaven, then that's another story all together

Another sign of your perverted mind.

Give it another 1000 years of no solution and no one will know the difference.

Well, as long as you are in no hurry, that's OK then.!

Another sign of your perverted mind.

Now I get it.! All those fanatics who blow themselves up for their cause killing thousands are not terrorists, but a bunch of PERVERTS.!

I say castrate all these terrorists to save lives so not to blow themselves up by having PERVERTED ideas about the 72 virgins.!

[Piratis]

They should have. So you would not be lying anymore.

If I was lying you would have been able to provide facts to prove me wrong. Like it is so easy for me to prove you wrong when you are lying all the time.

But I am 100% correct on this, which is reflected in your absolute inability to counter what I say.

It is amazing how brainwashed some people like you are. You have been fed the fairy tale that Turkey invaded Cyprus to save the TC who were supposdedly massacured, and when the facts and the truth is given to you, which contradict the lies you have been fed to excuse the illegal criminal invasion of Turkey, you prefer to close your eyes and continue to believe to the lies you were fed.

Your arguement falls flat because for whatever reason Turkey arrived it played out in our favour as we are all still alive and thank them for all their support over the 35 years they have provided us with a safe haven from GC aggression and discrimination, our lives have improved 1000 fold from the days when we were supposed to be living together with our "compatriots".

How is this related with my argument? What I said, which is a fact, is that it is the Turks who as always started the killings in 1974. The story that they came to save the TCs who were supposedly being killed, is a big fat lie of the Turkish propaganda and nothing more.

Beyond that, if you enjoy your life better now that you stole the properties of 100s of thousands of innocent people and profited on their loss, or because now you can pretend that you rule a territory which belongs to us by 80%, is another story. However you continue to face the consequences of your illegal actions, and these consequences will get more and more as the time passes, as the ECJ case showed. In the end the 90% of you will emigrate abroad, and you will be logging-in the forum from UK and Australia, claiming that life in Cyprus is now so much better for you

You are yet again wrong in your thought process you are writing what you want to believe not what the reality is, did Turkey arrive and kick your butts? did you kill them first on the shores of Kyrenia coming off the boats? why did you not hand them flowers when they arrived to save everyone, or were your hands so blood stained and your minds full of guilt that you had to stop them from discovering the truth about the previous 11 years?

Piratis you can be guaranteed one thing as long as there is no agree solution the population in the TRNC will grow we are 500.000 and growing in 20 years time we will have passed your population and have 2nd 3rd new generation TCs, the propaganda about us disapearing in GC manufactured to scare original TCs into thinking they will disappear well in fact our population growth is a mixture of Turks who arrived 450 years and those after that time. IN 40 50 years time you will be begging for partition as you will not want to give the TCs living in the north 1 vote one man as they will outvote you on everything and then you will have something to scream about.

The non recognition will not last forever and we are preapred to wait even, so you continue to collect all rulings and decisions you want, we will be around in the TRNC for a long time to come or if at any stage you decide to comprehend that you now have to share this island with TCs under a BBF with politcal equality of the states then you may get somewhere otherwise we are prepared for much worse as the alternative is unthinkable.

Turkey invaded us, bombed our cities with their airplanes, then made a landing killing everybody that resisted their invasion and VP says that we attacked them first because we defended our territory while they were invading us!

The Turkish settlers that you bring on our country are just that. Illegal Turkish settlers. They will never become Cypriots because the one and only legal state in Cyprus, the Republic of Cyprus, will never give them the Cyprus citizenship. The only thing you will achieve is that soon everybody in the occupied territory will be a Turk and not Cypriot, which means that when our island will be liberated all of you will be send back to your homeland, so we can have ours back.

[shahmaran]

Piratis understanding of "defence" is murdering unarmed villages and dumping them in mass graves, or alternatively people can starve to death.

Why don't you post more shitty documents about it Piratis, that's all you're good for.

Oh and don't forget that shitty video as well!

[Nikitas]

And you Shah understand "peace operations" in the form of an army encouraged to go haywire and kill 4500 civilians, (figures provided by Ecevit re Attila II).

The problem is how some arrogant people can find the level of violence of 1974 and the aftermath, the partition, the de facto annexation of the north, justified by anything that went on before. The arrogance shown in this forum by the likes of Shah and VP and others probably is closer to official policy than the writings of Sener Levent or Sevgul Uludag. These are the people we are trying to establish a partnership with, the people that glibly tell you that in the north now there are 500 000 settlers and that is it, take it or leave it.

If that is the only choice offered I will gladly take double union instead.

[Piratis]

Piratis understanding of "defence" is murdering unarmed villages and dumping them in mass graves, or alternatively people can starve to death.

Why don't you post more shitty documents about it Piratis, that's all you're good for.

Oh and don't forget that shitty video as well!

While of course the 1000s of people you killed and the 100s of thousands you ethnically cleansed were all guilty, isn't it?

As I said, none of those people would have died if Turkey had not invaded Cyprus. Turkey invaded Cyprus in order to execute a plan you had since the 50s of exterminating every Greek Cypriot from the north part of Cyprus. You executed this plan in 1974 using a lie as an excuse.

Now instead of blaming yourselves for starting a war, for killing 1000s and for ethnically cleansing 100s of thousands, you are trying to blame GCs because in the war you started you also had a couple of 100 of casualties.

I support that decisions should be taken peacefully and democratically, one person one vote without racist discrimination among the citizens, and always with respect to the human rights of every single citizen. Unfortunately there are racists like you who believe that you have the right to impose your will undemocratically by force, you start wars, you kill 1000s, ethnically cleanse 100s of thousands, and then you are trying to present yourselves as the victims because in the wars you start you also have a few casualties

[Nikitas]

One man one vote, that is an alien concept not approved by Kemal. At least not as far as it applies to the non privileged nationalities, ie all non Turks. It is funny watching the antics of Turkey as far as religious and ethnic minority rights are concerned in its EU bid. It is one step forward two steps back, faithful to the Kemalist doctrine of a racially pure state.

Ethnic cleansing is too deeply ingrained in the Kemalist mindset to change now.

[shahmaran]

Piratis understanding of "defence" is murdering unarmed villages and dumping them in mass graves, or alternatively people can starve to death.

Why don't you post more shitty documents about it Piratis, that's all you're good for.

Oh and don't forget that shitty video as well!

While of course the 1000s of people you killed and the 100s of thousands you ethnically cleansed were all guilty, isn't it?

As I said, none of those people would have died if Turkey had not invaded Cyprus. Turkey invaded Cyprus in order to execute a plan you had since the 50s of exterminating every Greek Cypriot from the north part of Cyprus. You executed this plan in 1974 using a lie as an excuse.

Now instead of blaming yourselves for starting a war, for killing 1000s and for ethnically cleansing 100s of thousands, you are trying to blame GCs because in the war you started you also had a couple of 100 of casualties.

I support that decisions should be taken peacefully and democratically, one person one vote without racist discrimination among the citizens, and always with respect to the human rights of every single citizen. Unfortunately there are racists like you who believe that you have the right to impose your will undemocratically by force, you start wars, you kill 1000s, ethnically cleanse 100s of thousands, and then you are trying to present yourselves as the victims because in the wars you start you also have a few casualties

You are an old broken record Piratis, can't wait for the day you brake so much that you wont be able to make another sound ever again, because the "ethical" side you insist on portraying about yourself is as crooked as a Karpaz donkeys dick!

Of course some members of my family could have survived in the enclaves with just some tender love and care from the GC's, which I am sure, was on its way but the god dam Turks came and ruined everything, the bastards!

I am happy with democracy, like I said, I have no wish to be a part of yours that's all, 2 states will do me just fine.

As long as I don't have to rely on tossers such as yourself on the decisions regarding me and my loved ones, it is all fine by me.

In fact they can close the gates tomorrow I could not care less, but if a solution must happen then this is as far as it should go.

I do not hold a single inch of pity for wankers like you, having said that, the same goes for respecting you, but I am sure you are well aware of that by now

[shahmaran]

One man one vote, that is an alien concept not approved by Kemal. At least not as far as it applies to the non privileged nationalities, ie all non Turks. It is funny watching the antics of Turkey as far as religious and ethnic minority rights are concerned in its EU bid. It is one step forward two steps back, faithful to the Kemalist doctrine of a racially pure state.

Ethnic cleansing is too deeply ingrained in the Kemalist mindset to change now.

It is funny you say that Nikitas, considering women were allowed to vote in Greece 22 years and in Cyprus 30 years AFTER Turkey had done so.

One-man-one-vote really is your moto isn't it, literally!

[Piratis]

Piratis understanding of "defence" is murdering unarmed villages and dumping them in mass graves, or alternatively people can starve to death.

Why don't you post more shitty documents about it Piratis, that's all you're good for.

Oh and don't forget that shitty video as well!

While of course the 1000s of people you killed and the 100s of thousands you ethnically cleansed were all guilty, isn't it?

As I said, none of those people would have died if Turkey had not invaded Cyprus. Turkey invaded Cyprus in order to execute a plan you had since the 50s of exterminating every Greek Cypriot from the north part of Cyprus. You executed this plan in 1974 using a lie as an excuse.

Now instead of blaming yourselves for starting a war, for killing 1000s and for ethnically cleansing 100s of thousands, you are trying to blame GCs because in the war you started you also had a couple of 100 of casualties.

I support that decisions should be taken peacefully and democratically, one person one vote without racist discrimination among the citizens, and always with respect to the human rights of every single citizen. Unfortunately there are racists like you who believe that you have the right to impose your will undemocratically by force, you start wars, you kill 1000s, ethnically cleanse 100s of thousands, and then you are trying to present yourselves as the victims because in the wars you start you also have a few casualties

You are an old broken record Piratis, can't wait for the day you brake so much that you wont be able to make another sound ever again, because the "ethical" side you insist on portraying about yourself is as crooked as a Karpaz donkeys dick!

Of course some members of my family could have survived in the enclaves with just some tender love and care from the GC's, which I am sure, was on its way but the god dam Turks came and ruined everything, the bastards!

I am happy with democracy, like I said, I have no wish to be a part of yours that's all, 2 states will do me just fine.

As long as I don't have to rely on tossers such as yourself on the decisions regarding me and my loved ones, it is all fine by me.

In fact they can close the gates tomorrow I could not care less, but if a solution must happen then this is as far as it should go.

I do not hold a single inch of pity for wankers like you, having said that, the same goes for respecting you, but I am sure you are well aware of that by now

As I explained many times, there is only one country on this island, Republic of Cyprus, and all parts of it have a Greek Cypriot majority. If you want to live in a different country from the majority of Cypriots then your only legal option is to move out of Cyprus. Performing ethnic cleansing using lies as excuses in order for you to have a separate country on stolen land is not something you have any right for.

And I didn't expect people like you to like me or show any respect to me. I know that racist Turks like you, who are unfortunately the ones who rule Turkey, hate everything about democracy and human rights. The jails in Turkey are full with political prisoners, not to mention the number of journalists and authors who are murdered by your criminal regime.

[Piratis]

One man one vote, that is an alien concept not approved by Kemal. At least not as far as it applies to the non privileged nationalities, ie all non Turks. It is funny watching the antics of Turkey as far as religious and ethnic minority rights are concerned in its EU bid. It is one step forward two steps back, faithful to the Kemalist doctrine of a racially pure state.

Ethnic cleansing is too deeply ingrained in the Kemalist mindset to change now.

It is funny you say that Nikitas, considering women were allowed to vote in Greece 22 years and in Cyprus 30 years AFTER Turkey had done so.

One-man-one-vote really is your moto isn't it, literally!

In Cyprus women had the right to vote and stand for election from the very first elections.