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ELGIN MARBLES BELONG TO TURKEY- WHAT ELSE TO HEAR?

Postby EPSILON » Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:09 pm

Jul 9th 2009
From The Economist print edition

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SIR – I chuckled at your use of the term “moral clarity” when describing the Greek request that the British Museum return the Elgin marbles to Athens (“Snatched from northern climes”, June 27th). Athens was the force behind the Delian League of Greek city-states in the 5th century BC, which was founded to provide money for the common defence against Persia. The funds raised, however, did not go towards defence but were used by the Athenians to pay for expensive building projects on the Acropolis, including the Parthenon. The city-states that did not want to pay were conquered and their citizens became subjects of Athens. The league was no longer a mutual protection pact; it was “the cities that the Athenians rule”.

The classical Athenians extorted money to craft what have become known as the Elgin marbles; now their descendants want the works returned to them. I propose instead that the marbles be returned to the descendants of the people who helped pay for them in the first place, and who now live in the Delian League’s former cities along the eastern Aegean. For moral clarity, the Elgin marbles should be returned to Turkey.

Robert Ingle
Corvallis, Oregon


Of course he got his reply already as usual in such cases
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Postby paliometoxo » Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:14 pm

according to turkey the world belongs to them...
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:16 pm

They belong to the Acropolis. Dont listen to shit stirers. :roll:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:27 pm

denizaksulu wrote:They belong to the Acropolis. Dont listen to shit stirers. :roll:


I seem to recall you "stirred" in a similar capacity :roll:
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Re: ELGIN MARBLES BELONG TO TURKEY- WHAT ELSE TO HEAR?

Postby Oracle » Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:33 pm

EPSILON wrote:Jul 9th 2009
From The Economist print edition

Rocks of ages
SIR – I chuckled at your use of the term “moral clarity” when describing the Greek request that the British Museum return the Elgin marbles to Athens (“Snatched from northern climes”, June 27th). Athens was the force behind the Delian League of Greek city-states in the 5th century BC, which was founded to provide money for the common defence against Persia. The funds raised, however, did not go towards defence but were used by the Athenians to pay for expensive building projects on the Acropolis, including the Parthenon. The city-states that did not want to pay were conquered and their citizens became subjects of Athens. The league was no longer a mutual protection pact; it was “the cities that the Athenians rule”.

The classical Athenians extorted money to craft what have become known as the Elgin marbles; now their descendants want the works returned to them. I propose instead that the marbles be returned to the descendants of the people who helped pay for them in the first place, and who now live in the Delian League’s former cities along the eastern Aegean. For moral clarity, the Elgin marbles should be returned to Turkey.

Robert Ingle
Corvallis, Oregon


Of course he got his reply already as usual in such cases


Perhaps this chap from Oregon can make reparations to the native Americans who were ousted in the making of the trails that led to their new found land ....

Besides, Persia was defeated; so mission accomplished! But, if this chap has invoices he would like to declare as proof of "purchase", and some genetic evidence for tracing direct descendants, then he should provide them in defence against sounding like a complete idiot!
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Postby saravakos » Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:48 pm

Please dont call them Elgin Marbles!! They're the Parthenon Marbles...that thief does not deserve to have his name linked to them.

I made a quick visit to the BM the other day as i had some free time. Couldnt believe how they have the cheek to say we have nowhere to house them considering how they had them displayed.

Not covered
Within touching distance, which people were doing
Flash photography allowed

The amount of Greek and world antiquities in there blew me away!! I didnt realise how much had actually been stolen...no wonder they dont want to return them as they know they'll have no museum left as NOTHING is British in there!

There was a statue of Alexander the Greats head which 2 Italian girls decided to kiss on either side...i couldnt believe this was allowed to take place!!
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Postby Cap » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:25 pm

Firstly, who the hell is
Robert Ingle?
And does anybody care?
The Amerikanakia have lost their credibility years ago.
After becoming the laughing stock of the world does anybody take them seriously
on foreign policies anymore?
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Postby Cap » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:33 pm

Secondly, They're the PARTHENON marbles, There's nothing noble about imperialistic looting.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:06 pm

Cap wrote:There's nothing noble about imperialistic looting.


Brilliant ... :D
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Postby CBBB » Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:39 pm

What do you expect from an American who has never travelled more than 50 miles from where he was born (which is 80% of them).
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