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ELGIN MARBLES BELONG TO TURKEY- WHAT ELSE TO HEAR?

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Postby EPSILON » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:40 am

Cap wrote:Firstly, who the hell is
Robert Ingle?
And does anybody care?
The Amerikanakia have lost their credibility years ago.
After becoming the laughing stock of the world does anybody take them seriously
on foreign policies anymore?


Do not under- estimate the indivituals.They just prove what Turkish propaganta is doing and what our politicians are not doing.
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Re: ELGIN MARBLES BELONG TO TURKEY- WHAT ELSE TO HEAR?

Postby denizaksulu » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:42 am

kurupetos wrote:
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Oracle wrote:
I am not trying to tear you apart from any heritage.


I should hope not. Here's a Venetian palace in Famagusta which is also a part of stolen Cypriot heritage that is not Hellenic. There are dozens of examples like this.

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Oracle wrote:But, the reality is the majority of Cypriots chose to continue in the Hellenic tradition; they neither adopted the language of the Lusignans...


Although where do you think the word 'flauna' comes from? That famous, distinctly Cypriot (not Hellenic) Easter cake?

Oracle wrote:nor the Catholic religion.


No. They adopted the religion brought to Cyprus by Saint Paul (a Jew from Tarsus) and Saint Barnabus (also a Jew, a homegrown one). Other parts of the eastern Mediterranean, including Greece, adopted the religion also, after Cyprus.


All Venitians either left Cyprus or converted to Turks, when the Ottomans conquered Cyprus.

Jews of Cyprus became extinct more than a thousand years ago.

Phoenicians more than two thousands years ago.

The TCs will also vanish in a few years... :cry:

It seems that GCs are here to stay forever...3500 years and counting! 8)



You have lost the plot here, I am afraid.

The above 'peoples' do not or did not become extinct. They get assimilated or leave. Looking at the difference in 'varieties' of types of peoples we have in Cyprus, it it most likely that they were assimilated. Some became Moslem, some who were not so finicky became GO.

They did not 'convert' to Turk. The concept did not exist then.. :wink:
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Re: ELGIN MARBLES BELONG TO TURKEY- WHAT ELSE TO HEAR?

Postby EPSILON » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:43 am

The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
I am not trying to tear you apart from any heritage.


I should hope not. Here's a Venetian palace in Famagusta which is also a part of stolen Cypriot heritage that is not Hellenic. There are dozens of examples like this.

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Oracle wrote:But, the reality is the majority of Cypriots chose to continue in the Hellenic tradition; they neither adopted the language of the Lusignans...


Although where do you think the word 'flauna' comes from? That famous, distinctly Cypriot (not Hellenic) Easter cake?

Oracle wrote:nor the Catholic religion.


No. They adopted the religion brought to Cyprus by Saint Paul (a Jew from Tarsus) and Saint Barnabus (also a Jew, a homegrown one). Other parts of the eastern Mediterranean, including Greece, adopted the religion also, after Cyprus.


What actually you try to prove here my friend ? that you are Venetian now? And stop base your argument about Cyprus "ethnicity " on flaouna cheesecake because you could do the same with Airani and became a Turk!!!
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Postby EPSILON » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:45 am

CBBB wrote:What do you expect from an American who has never travelled more than 50 miles from where he was born (which is 80% of them).


He may not travelled by Turkish propaganta is a good traveller.
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Re: ELGIN MARBLES BELONG TO TURKEY- WHAT ELSE TO HEAR?

Postby wyoming cowboy » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:48 am

Flaouna is actually Spanish
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
I am not trying to tear you apart from any heritage.


I should hope not. Here's a Venetian palace in Famagusta which is also a part of stolen Cypriot heritage that is not Hellenic. There are dozens of examples like this.

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Oracle wrote:But, the reality is the majority of Cypriots chose to continue in the Hellenic tradition; they neither adopted the language of the Lusignans...


Although where do you think the word 'flauna' comes from? That famous, distinctly Cypriot (not Hellenic) Easter cake?

Oracle wrote:nor the Catholic religion.


No. They adopted the religion brought to Cyprus by Saint Paul (a Jew from Tarsus) and Saint Barnabus (also a Jew, a homegrown one). Other parts of the eastern Mediterranean, including Greece, adopted the religion also, after Cyprus.
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Re: ELGIN MARBLES BELONG TO TURKEY- WHAT ELSE TO HEAR?

Postby denizaksulu » Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:01 am

wyoming cowboy wrote:Flaouna is actually Spanish
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
I am not trying to tear you apart from any heritage.


I should hope not. Here's a Venetian palace in Famagusta which is also a part of stolen Cypriot heritage that is not Hellenic. There are dozens of examples like this.

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Oracle wrote:But, the reality is the majority of Cypriots chose to continue in the Hellenic tradition; they neither adopted the language of the Lusignans...


Although where do you think the word 'flauna' comes from? That famous, distinctly Cypriot (not Hellenic) Easter cake?

Oracle wrote:nor the Catholic religion.


No. They adopted the religion brought to Cyprus by Saint Paul (a Jew from Tarsus) and Saint Barnabus (also a Jew, a homegrown one). Other parts of the eastern Mediterranean, including Greece, adopted the religion also, after Cyprus.



It is not surprising that there is a Spanish connection with bakery.

The 'cake base' used in Cyprus was called in 'Turkish' bandispanya/pandispanya. Now we know that what we are saying is Pan (bread) d'Espagna. (not unlike a Madeira cake). :?
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Re: ELGIN MARBLES BELONG TO TURKEY- WHAT ELSE TO HEAR?

Postby The Cypriot » Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:16 am

EPSILON wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
I am not trying to tear you apart from any heritage.


I should hope not. Here's a Venetian palace in Famagusta which is also a part of stolen Cypriot heritage that is not Hellenic. There are dozens of examples like this.

Image

Oracle wrote:But, the reality is the majority of Cypriots chose to continue in the Hellenic tradition; they neither adopted the language of the Lusignans...


Although where do you think the word 'flauna' comes from? That famous, distinctly Cypriot (not Hellenic) Easter cake?

Oracle wrote:nor the Catholic religion.


No. They adopted the religion brought to Cyprus by Saint Paul (a Jew from Tarsus) and Saint Barnabus (also a Jew, a homegrown one). Other parts of the eastern Mediterranean, including Greece, adopted the religion also, after Cyprus.


What actually you try to prove here my friend ? that you are Venetian now?


No. If you were to post me an image of the ruins of Salamis would that prove that I am Greek?

EPSILON wrote: And stop base your argument about Cyprus "ethnicity " on flaouna cheesecake because you could do the same with Airani and became a Turk!!!


Flauna doesn't make me a Lusignan just as Airanin doesn't make me an Ottoman. All the many and varied aspects of my heritage makes me what I am: a Cypriot. Don't try and take that away from me. You don't like it that someone has taken your Marbles.
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Re: ELGIN MARBLES BELONG TO TURKEY- WHAT ELSE TO HEAR?

Postby EPSILON » Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:30 am

The Cypriot wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:
I am not trying to tear you apart from any heritage.


I should hope not. Here's a Venetian palace in Famagusta which is also a part of stolen Cypriot heritage that is not Hellenic. There are dozens of examples like this.

Image

Oracle wrote:But, the reality is the majority of Cypriots chose to continue in the Hellenic tradition; they neither adopted the language of the Lusignans...


Although where do you think the word 'flauna' comes from? That famous, distinctly Cypriot (not Hellenic) Easter cake?

Oracle wrote:nor the Catholic religion.


No. They adopted the religion brought to Cyprus by Saint Paul (a Jew from Tarsus) and Saint Barnabus (also a Jew, a homegrown one). Other parts of the eastern Mediterranean, including Greece, adopted the religion also, after Cyprus.


What actually you try to prove here my friend ? that you are Venetian now?


No. If you were to post me an image of the ruins of Salamis would that prove that I am Greek?

EPSILON wrote: And stop base your argument about Cyprus "ethnicity " on flaouna cheesecake because you could do the same with Airani and became a Turk!!!


Flauna doesn't make me a Lusignan just as Airanin doesn't make me an Ottoman. All the many and varied aspects of my heritage makes me what I am: a Cypriot. Don't try and take that away from me. You don't like it that someone has taken your Marbles.


As i stated previsously the only one who could named simple Cypriot is this whos parents are coming from both T/c and a G/c societies.There are not more than 50 persons in earth of this kind!!!wait some centuries and may be you became an Ethnicity!!Exempt if the new solution plan provides compulsory marriages between the two.
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Re: ELGIN MARBLES BELONG TO TURKEY- WHAT ELSE TO HEAR?

Postby The Cypriot » Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:34 am

wyoming cowboy wrote:Flaouna is actually Spanish


Can you expand on this? I know flans (the custard variety) are a Spanish dessert but these are very different to flaunes.

Certainly the name 'flauna' comes from the old French word 'flaon' from where 'flan' derives:

flan: a baked dish consisting of an open-topped pastry case with a savory or sweet filling.
(The Oxford Pocket Dictionary of Current English, 2009)

This would suggest the name of the flauna, at least, is Lusignan in origin.
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Postby EPSILON » Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:37 am

Nobody knows what he can find in some places. I found pure koupes in Brazil!!very normal/usual there.
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