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ELGIN MARBLES BELONG TO TURKEY- WHAT ELSE TO HEAR?

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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:21 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:They belong to the Acropolis. Dont listen to shit stirers. :roll:


I seem to recall you "stirred" in a similar capacity :roll:



You give too much credit to GRs accusations. When I asked him about it, he could not remember a thing.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:32 pm

Ok, so the Greeks lost their marbles… what else is new? :?
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Postby saravakos » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:39 pm

Plenty of stolen Cypriot goods too
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Postby Oracle » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:52 pm

saravakos wrote:Plenty of stolen Cypriot goods too


.... Did the Turks let them have those too? :roll: ... technically, they should go back to Turkey!
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Postby miltiades » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:58 pm

The marbles are , surely , Cypriot !
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:22 pm

Oracle wrote:
saravakos wrote:Plenty of stolen Cypriot goods too


.... Did the Turks let them have those too? :roll: ... technically, they should go back to Turkey!



Technically all archaelogy should be returned to their geographical location. Apart from the stolen religious artefact from Northern Cyprus. They should be return to the Church till restoration is possible.
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Postby kurupetos » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:27 pm

saravakos wrote:Plenty of stolen Cypriot goods too


Yes, don't forget the tzilintri! :evil:
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Postby kurupetos » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:29 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
saravakos wrote:Plenty of stolen Cypriot goods too


.... Did the Turks let them have those too? :roll: ... technically, they should go back to Turkey!



Technically all archaelogy should be returned to their geographical location. Apart from the stolen religious artefact from Northern Cyprus. They should be return to the Church till restoration is possible.


The archbishop has lost his marbles as well, but that's a different thing... :lol:
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Re: ELGIN MARBLES BELONG TO TURKEY- WHAT ELSE TO HEAR?

Postby The Cypriot » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:38 pm

EPSILON wrote:Jul 9th 2009
From The Economist print edition

Rocks of ages
SIR – I chuckled at your use of the term “moral clarity” when describing the Greek request that the British Museum return the Elgin marbles to Athens (“Snatched from northern climes”, June 27th). Athens was the force behind the Delian League of Greek city-states in the 5th century BC, which was founded to provide money for the common defence against Persia. The funds raised, however, did not go towards defence but were used by the Athenians to pay for expensive building projects on the Acropolis, including the Parthenon. The city-states that did not want to pay were conquered and their citizens became subjects of Athens. The league was no longer a mutual protection pact; it was “the cities that the Athenians rule”.

The classical Athenians extorted money to craft what have become known as the Elgin marbles; now their descendants want the works returned to them. I propose instead that the marbles be returned to the descendants of the people who helped pay for them in the first place, and who now live in the Delian League’s former cities along the eastern Aegean. For moral clarity, the Elgin marbles should be returned to Turkey.

Robert Ingle
Corvallis, Oregon


Of course he got his reply already as usual in such cases


I think Ingle may well have had his tongue firmly in his cheek when he wrote his letter.

While I sympathise with Athenian preoccupation in getting their ancient rocks back, please understand Epsilon, Cypriots have more pressing matters to attend to at the moment.

A third of their homeland is in foreign hands, rocks and all.

What's more, your Athenian loss wasn't as a result of a Cypriot-junta backed military coup against the democratically elected president of Greece – giving the wily Brits the excuse they'd always been looking for to swipe your antiquities.

So Cypriots can take no responsibility, can have no guilt for Athenian loss.

I really hope you recover your marbles, Epsilon. But not before Cypriots recover their land.
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Re: ELGIN MARBLES BELONG TO TURKEY- WHAT ELSE TO HEAR?

Postby Oracle » Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:35 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
EPSILON wrote:Jul 9th 2009
From The Economist print edition

Rocks of ages
SIR – I chuckled at your use of the term “moral clarity” when describing the Greek request that the British Museum return the Elgin marbles to Athens (“Snatched from northern climes”, June 27th). Athens was the force behind the Delian League of Greek city-states in the 5th century BC, which was founded to provide money for the common defence against Persia. The funds raised, however, did not go towards defence but were used by the Athenians to pay for expensive building projects on the Acropolis, including the Parthenon. The city-states that did not want to pay were conquered and their citizens became subjects of Athens. The league was no longer a mutual protection pact; it was “the cities that the Athenians rule”.

The classical Athenians extorted money to craft what have become known as the Elgin marbles; now their descendants want the works returned to them. I propose instead that the marbles be returned to the descendants of the people who helped pay for them in the first place, and who now live in the Delian League’s former cities along the eastern Aegean. For moral clarity, the Elgin marbles should be returned to Turkey.

Robert Ingle
Corvallis, Oregon


Of course he got his reply already as usual in such cases


I think Ingle may well have had his tongue firmly in his cheek when he wrote his letter.

While I sympathise with Athenian preoccupation in getting their ancient rocks back, please understand Epsilon, Cypriots have more pressing matters to attend to at the moment.

A third of their homeland is in foreign hands, rocks and all.

What's more, your Athenian loss wasn't as a result of a Cypriot-junta backed military coup against the democratically elected president of Greece – giving the wily Brits the excuse they'd always been looking for to swipe your antiquities.

So Cypriots can take no responsibility, can have no guilt for Athenian loss.

I really hope you recover your marbles, Epsilon. But not before Cypriots recover their land.


Everything will be as it should be, when all our trials are over .... They're all pieces of our Hellenic heritage, marbles or Cyprus. Symbols of how they want to tear us apart and possess us, bit by bit, whilst refusing to give us autonomy or allow us to become whole and one again (not as Enosis, just brothers) because therein lies our synergistic strength.
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