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EROGLU `SETTLEMENT BY THE END OF 2009 DOES NOT SEEM POSSIBLE

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby wallace » Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:30 pm

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paliometoxo wrote:one speach they say two states the next they say re unification the next they say two states again... so which is it?


Money from Turkey. This it is!!!

Its all three. Money from Turkey, two states one country. :lol: :lol:


Yfred-long time i asked Halil to tell me under which passport Talat is travelling abroad and i get no reply.Can you help me on this info?Meantime can you also remind me which is the official currency in North?

Currency is the New Turkish Lira approx 2.5 to the pound.


As far as Talats Passport is concerened, I don't know but I suspect its TRNC. It is accepted by all the countries. They just don't stamp in it. They stamp a piece of paper and then put it in the passport.


Tks. Have you personally ever travelled to any other country exempt Turkey using this TRNC passport or you just heard about that same is accepted?

Me personally no. I have been a Brit since the late 70s but half my family travelled on TRNC passporst to UK no problems at all before they were able to have RoC EU passports.


So now they have RoC EU passports ah old chap? The same rights like every other EU citizen that is ah old boy :lol: :lol: Do you have a RoC passport too?

No. I object to it. Only a mere EU/UK one old chap. What?


But your family has RoC passports....right?


Yes and they number about 100.
Any other questions?


Just 1 more.....I was just wondering if your family (not all 100 of them :lol: ) are pro solution or partionists like VP and if they feel that they have the same rights as the GC's do.
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Postby YFred » Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:39 pm

wallace wrote:
YFred wrote:
wallace wrote:
YFred wrote:
wallace wrote:
YFred wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
YFred wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
YFred wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:one speach they say two states the next they say re unification the next they say two states again... so which is it?


Money from Turkey. This it is!!!

Its all three. Money from Turkey, two states one country. :lol: :lol:


Yfred-long time i asked Halil to tell me under which passport Talat is travelling abroad and i get no reply.Can you help me on this info?Meantime can you also remind me which is the official currency in North?

Currency is the New Turkish Lira approx 2.5 to the pound.


As far as Talats Passport is concerened, I don't know but I suspect its TRNC. It is accepted by all the countries. They just don't stamp in it. They stamp a piece of paper and then put it in the passport.


Tks. Have you personally ever travelled to any other country exempt Turkey using this TRNC passport or you just heard about that same is accepted?

Me personally no. I have been a Brit since the late 70s but half my family travelled on TRNC passporst to UK no problems at all before they were able to have RoC EU passports.


So now they have RoC EU passports ah old chap? The same rights like every other EU citizen that is ah old boy :lol: :lol: Do you have a RoC passport too?

No. I object to it. Only a mere EU/UK one old chap. What?


But your family has RoC passports....right?


Yes and they number about 100.
Any other questions?


Just 1 more.....I was just wondering if your family (not all 100 of them :lol: ) are pro solution or partionists like VP and if they feel that they have the same rights as the GC's do.

All 100 are the same as me. We would like a solution with TC rights enshrined in the constitution fully protected from the murdering thugs ever getting anywhere near them, and I don't mean protected by (RoC)the best police money can buy? Because last time they did that, they joined the thugs, know what I mean?
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:58 pm

YFred wrote:All 100 are the same as me. We would like a solution with TC rights enshrined in the constitution fully protected from the murdering thugs ever getting anywhere near them, and I don't mean protected by (RoC)the best police money can buy? Because last time they did that, they joined the thugs, know what I mean?


Ah, well then, since all 100 members of your family are in unison in what should be in the constitution as far as the TCs rights ought to be, as a minority community I assume, because that's the only time such rights are issued, so right there and then you are accepting that the TC's being a minority (can't wait to see what else your 100 agreed on) then I assume you have all came to a unison agreement on what all these rights are. Would you then list all these rights that should be in the constitution and at what point is the Turkish Army must step in if any of these rights are ignored. Are the discrepancies of these rights are to be sorted out in the courts or that the TA invades at first opportunity to correct the problem.?
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Postby YFred » Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:55 pm

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YFred wrote:All 100 are the same as me. We would like a solution with TC rights enshrined in the constitution fully protected from the murdering thugs ever getting anywhere near them, and I don't mean protected by (RoC)the best police money can buy? Because last time they did that, they joined the thugs, know what I mean?


Ah, well then, since all 100 members of your family are in unison in what should be in the constitution as far as the TCs rights ought to be, as a minority community I assume, because that's the only time such rights are issued, so right there and then you are accepting that the TC's being a minority (can't wait to see what else your 100 agreed on) then I assume you have all came to a unison agreement on what all these rights are. Would you then list all these rights that should be in the constitution and at what point is the Turkish Army must step in if any of these rights are ignored. Are the discrepancies of these rights are to be sorted out in the courts or that the TA invades at first opportunity to correct the problem.?

I don't need to list these items; I'll be there for a week, and I don’t have the time or the inclination. I put my trust in Talat. However I expect the political problems to be solved by political negotiations. With the two tier government and Talat negotiating on our behalf, I expect no problems there. As to the TA, I expect the same cover as in 74.
The GC NG pulled up outside Lurucina from Goshi side and lined up their tanks to annihilate Lurucina. Now this, when Lurucadis have not attacked anybody. Then a phone call is made which ended up with the Turkish Air Force, and within very short time, before they could fire a single shell TAF took out the lot. That’s the kind of cover I and the rest of the TCs will have or no deal.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:01 pm

YFred wrote:
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YFred wrote:All 100 are the same as me. We would like a solution with TC rights enshrined in the constitution fully protected from the murdering thugs ever getting anywhere near them, and I don't mean protected by (RoC)the best police money can buy? Because last time they did that, they joined the thugs, know what I mean?


Ah, well then, since all 100 members of your family are in unison in what should be in the constitution as far as the TCs rights ought to be, as a minority community I assume, because that's the only time such rights are issued, so right there and then you are accepting that the TC's being a minority (can't wait to see what else your 100 agreed on) then I assume you have all came to a unison agreement on what all these rights are. Would you then list all these rights that should be in the constitution and at what point is the Turkish Army must step in if any of these rights are ignored. Are the discrepancies of these rights are to be sorted out in the courts or that the TA invades at first opportunity to correct the problem.?

I don't need to list these items; I'll be there for a week, and I don’t have the time or the inclination. I put my trust in Talat. However I expect the political problems to be solved by political negotiations. With the two tier government and Talat negotiating on our behalf, I expect no problems there. As to the TA, I expect the same cover as in 74.
The GC NG pulled up outside Lurucina from Goshi side and lined up their tanks to annihilate Lurucina. Now this, when Lurucadis have not attacked anybody. Then a phone call is made which ended up with the Turkish Air Force, and within very short time, before they could fire a single shell TAF took out the lot. That’s the kind of cover I and the rest of the TCs will have or no deal.
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Well said YFred.
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Postby YFred » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:03 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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YFred wrote:All 100 are the same as me. We would like a solution with TC rights enshrined in the constitution fully protected from the murdering thugs ever getting anywhere near them, and I don't mean protected by (RoC)the best police money can buy? Because last time they did that, they joined the thugs, know what I mean?


Ah, well then, since all 100 members of your family are in unison in what should be in the constitution as far as the TCs rights ought to be, as a minority community I assume, because that's the only time such rights are issued, so right there and then you are accepting that the TC's being a minority (can't wait to see what else your 100 agreed on) then I assume you have all came to a unison agreement on what all these rights are. Would you then list all these rights that should be in the constitution and at what point is the Turkish Army must step in if any of these rights are ignored. Are the discrepancies of these rights are to be sorted out in the courts or that the TA invades at first opportunity to correct the problem.?

I don't need to list these items; I'll be there for a week, and I don’t have the time or the inclination. I put my trust in Talat. However I expect the political problems to be solved by political negotiations. With the two tier government and Talat negotiating on our behalf, I expect no problems there. As to the TA, I expect the same cover as in 74.
The GC NG pulled up outside Lurucina from Goshi side and lined up their tanks to annihilate Lurucina. Now this, when Lurucadis have not attacked anybody. Then a phone call is made which ended up with the Turkish Air Force, and within very short time, before they could fire a single shell TAF took out the lot. That’s the kind of cover I and the rest of the TCs will have or no deal.
Anlıyormusun kardeşim?


Well said YFred.

Do you think Einstein understood it? Or shall I write it in American.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:03 pm

YFred wrote:
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YFred wrote:All 100 are the same as me. We would like a solution with TC rights enshrined in the constitution fully protected from the murdering thugs ever getting anywhere near them, and I don't mean protected by (RoC)the best police money can buy? Because last time they did that, they joined the thugs, know what I mean?


Ah, well then, since all 100 members of your family are in unison in what should be in the constitution as far as the TCs rights ought to be, as a minority community I assume, because that's the only time such rights are issued, so right there and then you are accepting that the TC's being a minority (can't wait to see what else your 100 agreed on) then I assume you have all came to a unison agreement on what all these rights are. Would you then list all these rights that should be in the constitution and at what point is the Turkish Army must step in if any of these rights are ignored. Are the discrepancies of these rights are to be sorted out in the courts or that the TA invades at first opportunity to correct the problem.?

I don't need to list these items; I'll be there for a week, and I don’t have the time or the inclination. I put my trust in Talat. However I expect the political problems to be solved by political negotiations. With the two tier government and Talat negotiating on our behalf, I expect no problems there. As to the TA, I expect the same cover as in 74.
The GC NG pulled up outside Lurucina from Goshi side and lined up their tanks to annihilate Lurucina. Now this, when Lurucadis have not attacked anybody. Then a phone call is made which ended up with the Turkish Air Force, and within very short time, before they could fire a single shell TAF took out the lot. That’s the kind of cover I and the rest of the TCs will have or no deal.
Anlıyormusun kardeşim?


Yeah, I understand very clearly, that you and your 100 family members do not know what should be in the constitution as rights for the TCs and not to be considered as a minority community at the same time, because one would lead to the other.!

Be careful what you ask for, because you might just get it, and then you will not like it.! :idea: :idea: :idea:
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:05 pm

YFred wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:All 100 are the same as me. We would like a solution with TC rights enshrined in the constitution fully protected from the murdering thugs ever getting anywhere near them, and I don't mean protected by (RoC)the best police money can buy? Because last time they did that, they joined the thugs, know what I mean?


Ah, well then, since all 100 members of your family are in unison in what should be in the constitution as far as the TCs rights ought to be, as a minority community I assume, because that's the only time such rights are issued, so right there and then you are accepting that the TC's being a minority (can't wait to see what else your 100 agreed on) then I assume you have all came to a unison agreement on what all these rights are. Would you then list all these rights that should be in the constitution and at what point is the Turkish Army must step in if any of these rights are ignored. Are the discrepancies of these rights are to be sorted out in the courts or that the TA invades at first opportunity to correct the problem.?

I don't need to list these items; I'll be there for a week, and I don’t have the time or the inclination. I put my trust in Talat. However I expect the political problems to be solved by political negotiations. With the two tier government and Talat negotiating on our behalf, I expect no problems there. As to the TA, I expect the same cover as in 74.
The GC NG pulled up outside Lurucina from Goshi side and lined up their tanks to annihilate Lurucina. Now this, when Lurucadis have not attacked anybody. Then a phone call is made which ended up with the Turkish Air Force, and within very short time, before they could fire a single shell TAF took out the lot. That’s the kind of cover I and the rest of the TCs will have or no deal.
Anlıyormusun kardeşim?


Well said YFred.

Do you think Einstein understood it? Or shall I write it in American.


Ho he gets it but doesnt want to understand so he!ll probably respond with come rubbish all dressed up in verbal diahorea.
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Postby growuptcs » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:07 pm

YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:All 100 are the same as me. We would like a solution with TC rights enshrined in the constitution fully protected from the murdering thugs ever getting anywhere near them, and I don't mean protected by (RoC)the best police money can buy? Because last time they did that, they joined the thugs, know what I mean?


Ah, well then, since all 100 members of your family are in unison in what should be in the constitution as far as the TCs rights ought to be, as a minority community I assume, because that's the only time such rights are issued, so right there and then you are accepting that the TC's being a minority (can't wait to see what else your 100 agreed on) then I assume you have all came to a unison agreement on what all these rights are. Would you then list all these rights that should be in the constitution and at what point is the Turkish Army must step in if any of these rights are ignored. Are the discrepancies of these rights are to be sorted out in the courts or that the TA invades at first opportunity to correct the problem.?

I don't need to list these items; I'll be there for a week, and I don’t have the time or the inclination. I put my trust in Talat. However I expect the political problems to be solved by political negotiations. With the two tier government and Talat negotiating on our behalf, I expect no problems there. As to the TA, I expect the same cover as in 74.
The GC NG pulled up outside Lurucina from Goshi side and lined up their tanks to annihilate Lurucina. Now this, when Lurucadis have not attacked anybody. Then a phone call is made which ended up with the Turkish Air Force, and within very short time, before they could fire a single shell TAF took out the lot. That’s the kind of cover I and the rest of the TCs will have or no deal.
Anlıyormusun kardeşim?


Define cover YFred.......because I might misunderstand you

A. blanket
B. media coverage
C. reason to strike
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:08 pm

The rules have to be clear and concise in the constitution GCs cannot be give a free hand to domiante or manipulate TCs ever again their every move must be monitered as they cannot be trusted with our future, if they shoudl step out of line at anytime the penalities should also be plainly clear so as to act as a deterrant.
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