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[Oracle]

Dear The Cypriot ... you need to re-wind because somewhere along the line you have gone off the rails!

[Oracle]

I also blame those who think all we need are the TCs to help us out of this mess! The TCs are working in unison with the Turks,

What all of them? You are tarring every individual TC with the same brush - as Viewpoint, runaway and other fools do about GCs?

It doesn't have to be all of them ... but there are certainly enough who never want to see Cyprus united under the RoC, ever again! So, why exactly are we meant to be working with them towards a "solution" when neither TCs nor GCs want the same solution?

We are on our own, as GCs, who want a democratic, one-man-one-vote free and united RoC; otherwise if we all wanted the same thing (TCs and GCs), Democracy, respect of individual rights, it would have happened by now!

It's not very civilised, Oracle. It's not very 'Greek'. Stop behaving like a confused, psychotic Turk. Because they really have won then.

What is not civilised? The truth?

Of course the Turks have won ... they have nearly half of Cyprus, the backing of the majority of TCs and a lot of GCs like you!

Oracle if you don't mind, he who pays the bill gives the direction...turkey pays the bill they call the shots...the ones benefitting the most are biggest supporters of turkey...

do not forget the tc petition, do not forget xxnilxx, iceman, kikapu, etc...do not tarnish them with the same stroke...there are real humans behind this miscarriage of justice...not everyone is a wolf...I have very good turkish friends...personal and through business...strangely enough there are humans in turkey as well....

I know there are many TCs who want Democracy too. But have you seen any signs that Turkey will listen to them? And not just because there are so few of them.

My point is about not wasting efforts to rope in those who are not interested ... because the few who are, are still not being heard by Turkey!

So, Christofias should just negotiate for the Turks to withdraw and those TCs who want to rejoin the RoC (some already have and are residing there) will also benefit from a solution when one is reached.

be patient....this is what I am saying....the status quo believe it or not is actually working with the crossings...we have been separated for 30 odd years, sure the mistrust through a non interaction didn't help...but after 5 odd years it's getting better...

My way of thinking it's too early for unification, as we need to build more trust...it will come...they want what we have, and sooner or later they are going to demand it...also a face saving for turkey...if it comes from the inside that is...the tcs are the key...not turkey...

unification should be talked in ten years not today...my thoughts on this...

in the meantime stay happy knowing the money turkey gives it's spend in the free areas...

All I want is for the Turks to get lost, and the refugees to be able to go home.

... then I'll get my bike out to revisit the whole of my beautiful country, unfettered and free!

be patient the gods already started smiling upon Cyprus...we cemented our rights as a nation, and hopefully others will rejoice with us when their turn comes up...

talk of unification is far too early for discussions...

I just want to know if the tcs that work in the south are they wolvies like my resident forum bitches or are they humane?...I always wanted to know about this...the reason I ask this is because if the are humane and they have to be as my bitches would be to proud or have a turkey income wouldn't dream of working in the free areas...then if 6000 travel daily to the free areas then you could safely say that them and their families will be on the same wavelength...this means that if the have 2 kids per family and with the wife it totals to 24000 humane people, and not counting their relatives...we are more than half way there...be patient...

and with this I say kalinixta and looking forward in reading your reply in the morning...

PS..even deniz will be proud of me... ...where the hell is the old man?...

I am not allowed to say ... but he is busy "here and there"

Sleep well, you worked hard on those Turks

.. and I must go and do some work!

[The Cypriot]

Dear The Cypriot ... you need to re-wind because somewhere along the line you have gone off the rails!

You accuse me – once again – and with no justification, of backing Turkey in Cyprus, and you expect me to keep chugging away pleasantly like Ivor the Engine?

[cymart]

Last Sunday at a local taverna in Polemi village,Paphos which I sometimes go to,a family of Turkish Cypriots came for lunch who were over for the day visiting some villages they used to live in before 1974.The father spoke quite good Greek and the girls English,so we got talking about things:they now live in Morphou area and said quite frankly that they have no intention of returning to live in the south after so many years but as part of a solution would be happy to give up the house they now live in if the Greek-Cypriot owner wants to return,even though this would cause them a big upheaval,provided they are given somewhere else to live in the north which is adequate,or would be even happier to reach a deal with the G.C. and stay where they live now if the area is not returned and the owner decides not to go back.
After speaking to a number of refugees from both sides over the years I am convinced such arrangements can be worked out which will be an acceptable compromise for most of them and this issue should not be used as a ruse by those on each side who prefer the present status-quo,but will not openly admit it!
Delaying things any longer will only lead to more Turkish Immigrants taking over the north,pushing out the Turkish Cypriots who we can make a deal with and leading to partition without the return of any territory to the Greek-Cypriots,except possibly the ruins of Varosha at some indefinable future time...
All these loud mouthed 'super-patriots' who support the myth of the 'long struggle' to liberate Cyprus from Turkish occupation etc etc, and who usually have very cushy positions here under the present status -quo are worse than many of the Turkish Cypriots ,who at least say clearly what they would be prepared to accept as a compromise,while they themselves have nothing to offer but empty slogans and rhetoric which have got us nowhere since 1974,while Turkey consolidates it's long-term designs on Cyprus!
As Rolandis wrote in Sundays Cyprus Mail, the Greek-Cypriots have rejected every plan put to them for the last 60 years and as a result we now live in a country which is broken in two and can only dream of Varosha etc....

[halil]

Last Sunday at a local taverna in Polemi village,Paphos which I sometimes go to,a family of Turkish Cypriots came for lunch who were over for the day visiting some villages they used to live in before 1974.The father spoke quite good Greek and the girls English,so we got talking about things:they now live in Morphou area and said quite frankly that they have no intention of returning to live in the south after so many years but as part of a solution would be happy to give up the house they now live in if the Greek-Cypriot owner wants to return,even though this would cause them a big upheaval,provided they are given somewhere else to live in the north which is adequate,or would be even happier to reach a deal with the G.C. and stay where they live now if the area is not returned and the owner decides not to go back.
After speaking to a number of refugees from both sides over the years I am convinced such arrangements can be worked out which will be an acceptable compromise for most of them and this issue should not be used as a ruse by those on each side who prefer the present status-quo,but will not openly admit it!
Delaying things any longer will only lead to more Turkish Immigrants taking over the north,pushing out the Turkish Cypriots who we can make a deal with and leading to partition without the return of any territory to the Greek-Cypriots,except possibly the ruins of Varosha at some indefinable future time...
All these loud mouthed 'super-patriots' who support the myth of the 'long struggle' to liberate Cyprus from Turkish occupation etc etc, and who usually have very cushy positions here under the present status -quo are worse than many of the Turkish Cypriots ,who at least say clearly what they would be prepared to accept as a compromise,while they themselves have nothing to offer but empty slogans and rhetoric which have got us nowhere since 1974,while Turkey consolidates it's long-term designs on Cyprus!
As Rolandis wrote in Sundays Cyprus Mail, the Greek-Cypriots have rejected every plan put to them for the last 60 years and as a result we now live in a country which is broken in two and can only dream of Varosha etc....

cymart,

it is true what u heard from Turkish Cypriot man . Great majority of Turkish Cypriots thinks like that family u met . Most of the Turkish cypriots were ready to move from their houses ,properly third time in 46 years .It was the one of the reasone as they said to u .they said yes to Annan plan . Great majority of the Turkish Cypriots does not want to return back to south . what they want after all those years .... secure and peacefull place for themself and for their children .

[halil]

I bet most of u all have idea about below latest poll.





49 % of Greek Cypriots are happy from passing from the gates .
30% says because of occupation they don't want to pass north .
41 % of them looks negative for passing from one side to another .
6 % of Greek Cypriots regularly passes to Turkish Cypriot side.
3% does not pass because of fear and not fell safe .......

etc..... etc .......

[Oracle]

49 % of Greek Cypriots are happy from passing from the gates .
30% says because of occupation they don't want to pass north .
41 % of them looks negative for passing from one side to another .
6 % of Greek Cypriots regularly passes to Turkish Cypriot side.
3% does not pass because of fear and not fell safe .......

etc..... etc .......

What is this meaningless garbage? ... just get out of our country and stop dictating to us how to travel from north to south ... frigging Turk!

[Oracle]

You accuse me – once again – and with no justification, of backing Turkey in Cyprus ... ]

Where was the justification for this?

It's not very civilised, Oracle. It's not very 'Greek'. Stop behaving like a confused, psychotic Turk.

Let's stop this tit-for-tat because you and I really have no quarrel ... just frustration as to the elusive detail for getting rid of the devil!

[miltiades]

So Halil does not have a right to be in Cyprus then !
Isn't this rather narrow-minded and utterly irresponsible ideology that caused so much conflict in our country.
Why should Halil get out of our country when it also happens to be his country. At least , if I'm not mistaken , this is what the RoC and every other responsible Cypriot organization says, that the T/Cs are part of Cyprus and have every right to be on this island. Are you confusing Halil with the settlers perhaps ?

[halil]

49 % of Greek Cypriots are happy from passing from the gates .
30% says because of occupation they don't want to pass north .
41 % of them looks negative for passing from one side to another .
6 % of Greek Cypriots regularly passes to Turkish Cypriot side.
3% does not pass because of fear and not fell safe .......

etc..... etc .......

What is this meaningless garbage? ... just get out of our country and stop dictating to us how to travel from north to south ... frigging Turk!

Cyprus is my mother land u ...... old lady ..... go back to your Greece.....

as far as i know u are the frigging tart .

to understand what all about u must read the Fileftheros News paper .... u friging tart .