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[The Cypriot]

Westminster Conservative Party Member Councilor Harvey Marshall and his wife Hazel Marshall are in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus to attend the 20th of July Peace and Freedom Day Celebrations.

http://www.brtk.cc/index.php/lang/en/cat/2/news/52295

From the report:
Westminster Conservative Party Member Councilor Harvey Marshall and his wife Hazel Marshall are in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus to attend the 20th of July Peace and Freedom Day Celebrations.

‘As the Turks of Cyprus from that day to today we are very happy,’ said Mr. Bozer ('Parliament Speaker') and added that ‘we are aware of the fact that a peace agreement is needed in Cyprus and we too want this’.

Halil, please explain this contradiction:

1. 20 July 1974 is 'Peace and Freedom' day;
2. From that day to this you are very happy;
3. You're aware that a peace agreement is needed.

If July 1974 was 'peace day' and you remain 'very happy', why do you need a 'peace agreement' in July 2009?

Surely, there must be some confusion.

No confusion we are peaceful and free its just you guys keep complaining that you are not.

What do you care? You're peaceful, free and celebrating. Why the 'need' for anything else?

[Viewpoint]

Westminster Conservative Party Member Councilor Harvey Marshall and his wife Hazel Marshall are in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus to attend the 20th of July Peace and Freedom Day Celebrations.

http://www.brtk.cc/index.php/lang/en/cat/2/news/52295

From the report:
Westminster Conservative Party Member Councilor Harvey Marshall and his wife Hazel Marshall are in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus to attend the 20th of July Peace and Freedom Day Celebrations.

‘As the Turks of Cyprus from that day to today we are very happy,’ said Mr. Bozer ('Parliament Speaker') and added that ‘we are aware of the fact that a peace agreement is needed in Cyprus and we too want this’.

Halil, please explain this contradiction:

1. 20 July 1974 is 'Peace and Freedom' day;
2. From that day to this you are very happy;
3. You're aware that a peace agreement is needed.

If July 1974 was 'peace day' and you remain 'very happy', why do you need a 'peace agreement' in July 2009?

Surely, there must be some confusion.

No confusion we are peaceful and free its just you guys keep complaining that you are not.

What do you care? You're peaceful, free and celebrating. Why the 'need' for anything else?

People always asses alternatives to see if whats on offer is better than what they have and so far the only thing we said yes to was the AP which was not acceptable to GCs and reconfirms the chasm between the 2 sides.

[The Cypriot]

What do you care? You're peaceful, free and celebrating. Why the 'need' for anything else?

People always asses alternatives to see if whats on offer is better than what they have and so far the only thing we said yes to was the AP which was not acceptable to GCs and reconfirms the chasm between the 2 sides.

I still don't get it. What can be better than being very happy, having peace, freedom and celebration? There is absolutely no need for a 'peace agreement' if you have everything you could ever possibly want already.

Your politician is confused. Either he's lying because you don't really have peace and freedom already, or he's lying because you don't really need a peace agreement which means you're wasting everyone's time.

Which one is it do you think?

[Viewpoint]

What do you care? You're peaceful, free and celebrating. Why the 'need' for anything else?

People always asses alternatives to see if whats on offer is better than what they have and so far the only thing we said yes to was the AP which was not acceptable to GCs and reconfirms the chasm between the 2 sides.

I still don't get it. What can be better than being very happy, having peace, freedom and celebration? There is absolutely no need for a 'peace agreement' if you have everything you could ever possibly want already.

Your politician is confused. Either he's lying because you don't really have peace and freedom already, or he's lying because you don't really need a peace agreement which means you're wasting everyone's time.

Which one is it do you think?

He is referring to peace with you GCs as you are still at war with us.

[kentish]

VP , the 37% of Cyprus is under occupation by the Turkish army who have set about to achieve , and have almost completed , what the G/C extremists could not do . Annihilate the Turkish Cypriots .
The 37% of Cyprus occupied by Turkey is inhabited not by the indigenous Cypriots but by Anatolians . The Indigenous T/Cs and G/Cs are outnumbered by a huge margin . Turkey will not succeed in eliminating and wiping of the face of the earth the T/Cs . She may call them Cypriot Turks , but the vast majority will reject it and protect their true identity , that of the Turkish Cypriot .

WHAT DO WE WANT ? A UNITED CYPRUS . WHEN DO WE WANT IT ? N O W !

Without a solution the TRNC will develop in anyway it sees fit as you have no say in the north and we would rather be absorbed by Turks (which our origins) than GCs with whom we once shared this island and have not lived together for 46 years. They harbour bade intentions and hidden agendas which we do not want to be exposed to, so stop painting pink clouds as the reality is a thunder storm. You live in utopia and want to believe certain dreams this does not make them true.

miltiades talks a load of rubbish about turkey eliminating turkish cypriots from the face of the earth.he is used to talk of that nature because he is from a generation of greek cypriots that did try to eliminate turkish cypriots from the face of the earth.you are a wolf in sheeps clothing miltiades.

thank you viewpoint,as turkish cypriots we would rather take our chance with the protection of the turkish peacekeeping force.we are free to travel in and out of cyprus with freedom from some nasty greek cypriot abusing us in customs.who cares how slow progress is.the rest of the world doesnt give a shit about cyprus,there are enough problems elsewhere.
turkey knows there is enough opposition to its eu entry from others let alone greece and cyprus and eventually she will give up trying to gain entry and at that point the position in cyprus will be accepted as permanent.

the half dozen idiot greek cypriots that perpetuate the nonsense on this forum will be left to discuss the old days in their own isolated brains and only then will they start blaming their racist leaders of the 60s and 70s for the loss of control of 100% of the island.

[The Cypriot]

(In answer to vp)
OK, I get it. Although there's no war at present. So a peace with the GCs is surely just 'desirable'; the cherry on top of all the peace, happiness and freedom you're all enjoying over there in the north; with all that wonderful celebration going on.

It's by no means a necessity. So why does he describe it as a 'need'? Why is he 'aware of the fact that a peace agreement is needed'?

You've got by really well for 35 years without it. What's changed now?