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Christofias: Solution possible by December if ....

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Postby bigOz » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:23 pm

paliometoxo wrote:its funny one side is like yes we want to re unite the land this is good and turkey is like no we demand partition... turkey is the problem here.... and everyone knows this

Ask the opinion of the TCs and not only Turkey but also and more so the GCs are the problem!

As a self respecting TC who does not give a SHITE whether you call banayiya in a curch or Allah in a mosque, I feel the ones who come out worse from all these poletical delays and disagreements are the TC working class! Lets admit it, the GCs are not exactly going through an economic crisis because of the current defacto situation.

Meanwhile, every year that passes by will leave the GCs with less TCs and more mainland Turks to share the island with in a possible future solution(?)
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Postby paliometoxo » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:23 pm

i support re unification not partition in the pretence of the crap turkey call a solution.. they want aprtition and full say over all the island and its recourses.. turkey as a minority is asking for to much
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Postby bigOz » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:33 pm

paliometoxo wrote:i support re unification not partition in the pretence of the crap turkey call a solution.. they want aprtition and full say over all the island and its recourses.. turkey as a minority is asking for to much


I think you are confusing yourself with these discussions! Turkey is not the minority in this island IT IS THE TURKISH CYPRIOTS - as for Turkey (I suppose you mean mainland Turks) thanks to your OXI mentality thay are now the majority in most parts of North Cyprus!

Guess why that is? Because of your sadistic desire to starve the TCs with your economic embargos together with your Christian brothers in Europe, the TCs have been displaced by the wealthy businessmen from Turkey. The problem is when they come, they come together with their whole workforce, managers, labourers plus families in their thousands...
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Postby paliometoxo » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:42 pm

bigOz wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:i support re unification not partition in the pretence of the crap turkey call a solution.. they want aprtition and full say over all the island and its recourses.. turkey as a minority is asking for to much


I think you are confusing yourself with these discussions! Turkey is not the minority in this island IT IS THE TURKISH CYPRIOTS - as for Turkey (I suppose you mean mainland Turks) thanks to your OXI mentality thay are now the majority in most parts of North Cyprus!

Guess why that is? Because of your sadistic desire to starve the TCs with your economic embargos together with your Christian brothers in Europe, the TCs have been displaced by the wealthy businessmen from Turkey. The problem is when they come, they come together with their whole workforce, managers, labourers plus families in their thousands...


another turk who throws the anan plan out there whenever u can... how fair was this anan plan/? would turks accept a plan of enosis with greece and turkey get the f out?? the plan was totally turkish taylored and everyone knew gcs would say NO

as to what u say something about asking turkish CYPRIOTS... u think turkish cypritos have ny say what goes on in the north anymore? there is more mainland turks in the north who have control... turkish cypritos thers like 5 of you left in the north and tcs hve no say.. its what mumm turkey wants and puppet master talt spits out whatever turkey tells him

turkey is the ones that put themselvs in this postion with their 40k troops and demanding partition they could easily put an end to all this instead of keeping OUR(tcs/gcs) island split in two and then complaining about a position they put themselvs in.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:45 pm

bigOz wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:i support re unification not partition in the pretence of the crap turkey call a solution.. they want aprtition and full say over all the island and its recourses.. turkey as a minority is asking for to much


I think you are confusing yourself with these discussions! Turkey is not the minority in this island IT IS THE TURKISH CYPRIOTS - as for Turkey (I suppose you mean mainland Turks) thanks to your OXI mentality thay are now the majority in most parts of North Cyprus!

Guess why that is? Because of your sadistic desire to starve the TCs with your economic embargos together with your Christian brothers in Europe, the TCs have been displaced by the wealthy businessmen from Turkey. The problem is when they come, they come together with their whole workforce, managers, labourers plus families in their thousands...


The TCs did wrong to steal nearly half the island ... so they cannot complain if they are now suffering consequences ....
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jul 15, 2009 9:47 pm

bigOz wrote: ... Meanwhile, every year that passes by will leave the GCs with less TCs and more mainland Turks to share the island with in a possible future solution(?)


That won't happen.

There will only be as many citizenships allocated as there were in 1974 (plus natural progression).

If they go to Turks or TCs, I don't think anyone cares any more, as you have proved time and time again that you are the same ....
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Postby humanist » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:55 pm

Our President is a "tsiakoui" ......... he has shown himself to be a true Statesman ;) go Mr Christofias and your communist ideology ... yeaeeee :):)
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Postby Lit » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:19 pm

President Christofias: we cannot accept arbitration in the talks for a settlement

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/A ... endocument


“We would like to achieve a settlement of the Cyprus problem even before the end of this year. This, however, is directly associated with the content of the talks and the positions submitted by each side. If these positions are reasonable and compromising, fall within the framework of a bizonal, bicommunal federation and serve the interests of the Cyprus people, Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots, then and only then we will have convergence. On the other hand, positions which are outside the agreed solution framework and are based on the logic of numerical equality rather than political equality, as the international Organisation stipulates, do not lead anywhere. I am convinced that our side is justified in claiming that the positions we are putting forward at the talks serve the goal of a solution and facilitate the success of the talks.” The President of the Republic Mr Demetris Christofias made the aforementioned statements yesterday in Limassol speaking at a commemoration event to denounce the 1974 coup and Turkish invasion.

Referring to the international community’s stance on the Cyprus problem, President Christofias called on her to exercise influence on Ankara so that the latter would contribute to the resolution of the Cyprus problem. He further noted: “I would like to clarify from this stand that we cannot accept arbitration, overt or covert. The bitter experience of 2004 should have made all sides, both within and outside Cyprus, wiser. We do not want to see a repeat of 2004. We want to reach a solution of the Cyprus problem; a mutually accepted solution that serves only the interests of Cypriots.”

The President added: “I take this opportunity to send a message to our Turkish Cypriot compatriots and I wish to reassure them that we can and should live peacefully in a reunited Cyprus. Our choices today will determine whether this place will have a future or if it will remain hostage to a traumatic past presaging a similar perspective. Let’s be aware of our responsibilities towards those who left with the pain of division. Let’s reflect on our responsibilities towards our children, grandchildren and the future generations”.
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Postby YFred » Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:53 pm

Can anybody tell me what is the difference between Christofias and Papadobullos? And secondly why did the GC population vote for him if he was going to have the same stance? Are they stupid or what?
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:04 pm

bigOz wrote:Meanwhile, every year that passes by will leave the GCs with less TCs and more mainland Turks to share the island with in a possible future solution(?)

But isn’t that what “enosis” is all about? Being overcome/overwhelmed by the “mother country”?

Had the Greek Cypriots of 50 years ago gotten their Greek enosis way, they would’ve had the same problems today…

Greek Cypriots would be in the minority while mainland Greeks in the majority, Cypriot-Greek would be frowned upon, Cypriot surnames probably modified to include “poulos” at the end, and God-knows what else… :roll:
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