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[paliometoxo]

so they ignore the paper telling them to go to court but it does nto make the problem go away... they can ut the messenger away but it does not make the court ruling go away.. the eu courts.. and this is from people trying to join the eu.. ignoring rules as always

[Pax]

The significance of the ECJ judgment on Orams is that a court order, including writ or other warrant, can be served and enforced anywhere in the EU. Crucially the ECJ judgment confirms that this principle applies to all court orders issued by any EU national court within any EU national jurisdiction irrespective of whether the offence was committed within that same jurisdiction.
Furthermore the ECJ judgment is notlimited to the Orams, to ex-pat property holders, or to property cases in Cyprus. Much more than this, it confirms the principle of universal enforcement across all the EU. Thus if needs be, a German citizen held liable for an offence in Sweden (by a Swedish court) could find that court order enforced in Cyprus.

Anyone - Turkish Cypriot, Greek Cypriot, British, German, Greek, etc - found by a Republic of Cyprus court in breach of RoC property law in northern Cyprus would be potentially subject to a writ which could be served in any/all EU states. Furthermore, not only are EU citizens subject to this extension of enforcement. Turkish citizens living in the EU, or certainly with assets in the EU, could also be subjected, in principle, to an enforcement order.

Sure this is all political. But the law is political. It is naive to think it to be otherwise.

[paliometoxo]

ignoring the court hearings wont make them go away

[bill cobbett]

The significance of the ECJ judgment on Orams is that a court order, including writ or other warrant, can be served and enforced anywhere in the EU. Crucially the ECJ judgment confirms that this principle applies to all court orders issued by any EU national court within any EU national jurisdiction irrespective of whether the offence was committed within that same jurisdiction.
Furthermore the ECJ judgment is notlimited to the Orams, to ex-pat property holders, or to property cases in Cyprus. Much more than this, it confirms the principle of universal enforcement across all the EU. Thus if needs be, a German citizen held liable for an offence in Sweden (by a Swedish court) could find that court order enforced in Cyprus.

Anyone - Turkish Cypriot, Greek Cypriot, British, German, Greek, etc - found by a Republic of Cyprus court in breach of RoC property law in northern Cyprus would be potentially subject to a writ which could be served in any/all EU states. Furthermore, not only are EU citizens subject to this extension of enforcement. Turkish citizens living in the EU, or certainly with assets in the EU, could also be subjected, in principle, to an enforcement order.

Sure this is all political. But the law is political. It is naive to think it to be otherwise.

Well posted mate/matess and welcome back.

[paliometoxo]

you forget its the turks ur dealing with... they think they can do what they want and ignore rules they dont like

[paliometoxo]

“It is a shame we let them do whatever they want in our country. How dare they come and implement another state’s regulation in the TRNC?”

isent that what the turks try do in any country they step food in? go tell themto change their rules and how to live?

plus since when was TRNc a country? they are talking like trnc is a seperate state... gcs are at the table talking for re uniofication and in the turks minds north cyprus is already turkish and recognised... why do they waist our time at the table?

[repulsewarrior]

...selling off whatever they can, still. Destroying our patrimony as this island's dwellers for the money. Disappointed that the world has ethics, and understands, 'what comes around, goes around'

welcome Pax, i liked your post, looking forward to learning more from your observations...

indeed, it sounds like panic...

[The Cypriot]

The significance of the ECJ judgment on Orams is that a court order, including writ or other warrant, can be served and enforced anywhere in the EU. Crucially the ECJ judgment confirms that this principle applies to all court orders issued by any EU national court within any EU national jurisdiction irrespective of whether the offence was committed within that same jurisdiction.
Furthermore the ECJ judgment is notlimited to the Orams, to ex-pat property holders, or to property cases in Cyprus. Much more than this, it confirms the principle of universal enforcement across all the EU. Thus if needs be, a German citizen held liable for an offence in Sweden (by a Swedish court) could find that court order enforced in Cyprus.

Anyone - Turkish Cypriot, Greek Cypriot, British, German, Greek, etc - found by a Republic of Cyprus court in breach of RoC property law in northern Cyprus would be potentially subject to a writ which could be served in any/all EU states. Furthermore, not only are EU citizens subject to this extension of enforcement. Turkish citizens living in the EU, or certainly with assets in the EU, could also be subjected, in principle, to an enforcement order.

Sure this is all political. But the law is political. It is naive to think it to be otherwise.

This would also include the Republic of Turkey itself and assets it has in EU countries, eg. embassies, consuls, trade, tourists and cultural centres.

[bill cobbett]

The significance of the ECJ judgment on Orams is that a court order, including writ or other warrant, can be served and enforced anywhere in the EU. Crucially the ECJ judgment confirms that this principle applies to all court orders issued by any EU national court within any EU national jurisdiction irrespective of whether the offence was committed within that same jurisdiction.
Furthermore the ECJ judgment is notlimited to the Orams, to ex-pat property holders, or to property cases in Cyprus. Much more than this, it confirms the principle of universal enforcement across all the EU. Thus if needs be, a German citizen held liable for an offence in Sweden (by a Swedish court) could find that court order enforced in Cyprus.

Anyone - Turkish Cypriot, Greek Cypriot, British, German, Greek, etc - found by a Republic of Cyprus court in breach of RoC property law in northern Cyprus would be potentially subject to a writ which could be served in any/all EU states. Furthermore, not only are EU citizens subject to this extension of enforcement. Turkish citizens living in the EU, or certainly with assets in the EU, could also be subjected, in principle, to an enforcement order.

Sure this is all political. But the law is political. It is naive to think it to be otherwise.

This would also include the Republic of Turkey itself and assets it has in EU countries, eg. embassies, consuls, trade, tourists and cultural centres.

I do believe the RoT is a signatory to a treaty that makes judgements in other signatory states, including all the EU, enforceable in the RoT.

Any legal beavers to confirm or otherwise?


(Welcome back RW - bou biyes je hathikes?)

[miltiades]

It appears that the "SELL BY DATE " is just around the corner , the end of a nightmare , or rather the chickens are coming home to roost.