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Postby Plato » Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:29 pm

I think what I wrote is perfectly clear. I was asking which University people considered the most prestigious. Whether I am looking to enrol in one of them or not is actually irrelevant to the question. A simple answer would have sufficed. Instead, you got your own wires crossed BY MAKING ASSUMPTIONS and started throwing insults around before you even knew what you were talking about.

I'm talking about CVs and jobs because I am looking to the long-term! Employment prospects! After all, that is the main reason you go to University isn't it?!

Nobody else seemed to make the same mistake you did. :roll:

I got perfectly reasonable answers from others.
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Postby Jerry » Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:38 pm

Probably better if Plato tried to enrol rather than enroll GR.

Plato, my son studied art in Bristol and made it his permanent home. He is married now so we visit often. It's a lovely city with a large student population and a lively social scene. I don't know much about the other cities but I do know that if I had to choose a city to live in Bristol would be at the top of my list. The university does have a good reputation according to my son.
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Postby Pax » Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:42 pm

I've been a member of faculty at two of the universities that you list, not in Law, but a cognate area.

You are right to be cautious about league tables, not just because positions change year by year, but because they attempt to give an objective measure to what is necessarily a subjective judgment. The "student experience" on the one hand and prospective employers' evaluation are both inherently subjective.

To be honest the teaching quality - which is the crucial issue for you as student - is much the same between these institutions. A key thing to look out for is what proportion of your classes will be taught by full faculty staff and what proportion by teaching assistants (often PhD students, not necessarily bad, often very good). In other words, if you choose a place to study because it has some big name academic lawyers you may find that they're not actually doing much teaching, and certainly not of undergraduates.

In terms of employability (in law) the key issue is not which of these universities that you went to but the quality of the degree that you graduate with. The prospect of a training contract with a law firm (and possible sponsorship for LPC) will be almost exclusively dependent on the class of degree it looks like you'll get. Until the last year or so, the big law firms swept up people from Oxford and Cambridge - with the financial crisis even these graduates are having to go to job centres.

If there are particular parts of law (eg international, employment, banking, human rights, asylum, criminal) you should check that there are a decent range of options available which reflect your interests.

The final thing that I'd say is that choosing between law departments/universities may ultimately rest on non-educational matters. For example, do you want to live in a campus university out of town (Warwick) or do you want to study in a big metropolitan centre (Manchester, Birmingham), or do you want to mix with Oxbridge wannabes (Durham, perhaps Bristol).

For what it is worth - and I don't think it is worth much, because as I said all these departments are of roughly the same standing - my casual selection would be :

University of Nottingham 1
University of Birmingham 5
University of Warwick 3
University of Durham 6
University of Manchester 4
University of Bristol 2

Having said all that, I would seriously question the wisdom of seeking guidance on university choice from an internet forum :shock:
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Postby Plato » Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:42 pm

Thanks Jerry. Bristol is up there as one of my main choices.
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Postby Plato » Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:47 pm

Well if the guidance is as good as yours Pax, I don't think I'm doing that bad. Thanks for the advice.

P.S. I'm seeking guidance from various sources. I asked the question on this forum as I know that quite a lot of forumers have been to UK Universities so I thought they may be able to help.

Thanks.
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Postby Plato » Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:54 pm

Just one other question Pax. If Durham is considered an alternative to Oxbridge, why did you put it last on your list? Just curious.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:57 pm

Jerry wrote:Probably better if Plato tried to enrol rather than enroll GR.

Why Jerry? It's bad enough he can't communicate effectively must he also learn how to spell wrong? :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:01 pm

Plato wrote:I'm talking about CVs and jobs because I am looking to the long-term! Employment prospects!

Dude, it's gonna be a loooooooong time before you even write up a CV with anything worth reading about! :lol:
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Postby Pax » Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:04 pm

Plato,
As I said the distinction between one university on your list and another is very fine and subjective. On another day I may have given a different order. But there were two reasons : first, there's a great deal of Oxbridge snobbery which is far more damaging than it is helpful, and regrettably Durham plays along with it. Second, assuming that you were a Greek/Turkish Cypriot I thought that three years in the grey, cold, small ex-coal town of Durham (though beautiful cathedral) would not be quite the best choice :wink:
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Postby Plato » Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:05 pm

Your problem GR is that you make too many assumptions before you know any facts. That is why you got your wires crossed following my original post.
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