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Postby Z4 » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:53 pm

kafenes wrote:
miltiades wrote:As I have said before , a disgusting smelly unhealthy third world filthy habit !!!


@ Milti and Bubbles,I believe the same goes for alcohol consumption as well. A filthy discusting habit which kills the users and other innocent people around them and ruins many families.


kafenes - drinking is ok, in moderation of course. Smoking on the other hand is foul, disgusting and harms others. Drinking a pint of beer doesn't effect other people but smoking one cigarette can harm people in the same room......which is not on
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:56 pm

Z4 wrote:
kafenes wrote:
miltiades wrote:As I have said before , a disgusting smelly unhealthy third world filthy habit !!!


@ Milti and Bubbles,I believe the same goes for alcohol consumption as well. A filthy discusting habit which kills the users and other innocent people around them and ruins many families.


kafenes - drinking is ok, in moderation of course. Smoking on the other hand is foul, disgusting and harms others. Drinking a pint of beer doesn't effect other people but smoking one cigarette can harm people in the same room......which is not on

You can produce scientific proof that second-hand smoking is harmful I presume...? I look forward to reading the scientific papers you link to...
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Postby Z4 » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:03 pm

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kafenes wrote:
miltiades wrote:As I have said before , a disgusting smelly unhealthy third world filthy habit !!!


@ Milti and Bubbles,I believe the same goes for alcohol consumption as well. A filthy discusting habit which kills the users and other innocent people around them and ruins many families.


kafenes - drinking is ok, in moderation of course. Smoking on the other hand is foul, disgusting and harms others. Drinking a pint of beer doesn't effect other people but smoking one cigarette can harm people in the same room......which is not on

You can produce scientific proof that second-hand smoking is harmful I presume...? I look forward to reading the scientific papers you link to...


So, you saying that breathing 2nd hand smoke is not bad for you? It's certainly not good for youl, and can't be....really cant be bothered to look for scientific papers but feel free to prove me wrong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_smoking
http://www.epa.gov/smokefree/pubs/strsfs.html
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articl ... id=1747612
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/30421.php
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Postby EPSILON » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:08 pm

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Raymanoff wrote:Very surprising decision, i thought this would never happen... but another issues is with enforcing such law :) i am sure the wedding venues wouldn't give a damn anyway...aswell as night clubs, buzukia, this is impossible.


Is a very correct regulation and can work everywhere even in Bouzoukia places if government insist.
note: i a a very heavy smoker but i consider such regulations the only way for me to get 1-2 years more healthy life


Give up Epsilon and you should get more than just a few years!


Easy to say..
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:11 pm

Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
kafenes wrote:
miltiades wrote:As I have said before , a disgusting smelly unhealthy third world filthy habit !!!


@ Milti and Bubbles,I believe the same goes for alcohol consumption as well. A filthy discusting habit which kills the users and other innocent people around them and ruins many families.


kafenes - drinking is ok, in moderation of course. Smoking on the other hand is foul, disgusting and harms others. Drinking a pint of beer doesn't effect other people but smoking one cigarette can harm people in the same room......which is not on

You can produce scientific proof that second-hand smoking is harmful I presume...? I look forward to reading the scientific papers you link to...


So, you saying that breathing 2nd hand smoke is not bad for you? It's certainly not good for youl, and can't be....really cant be bothered to look for scientific papers but feel free to prove me wrong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_smoking
http://www.epa.gov/smokefree/pubs/strsfs.html
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articl ... id=1747612
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/30421.php


You obviously misunderstood my last statement… :roll:

When I asked for scientific proof that second-hand smoke was harmful to your health I was looking for proven scientific fact and research… not your opinion or that of Roy Castle…

You made the statement that ‘smoking one cigarette can harm people in the same room’. I don’t think it is unreasonable for you to provide the scientific proof behind that statement…

Do you...?
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Postby Z4 » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:16 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
kafenes wrote:
miltiades wrote:As I have said before , a disgusting smelly unhealthy third world filthy habit !!!


@ Milti and Bubbles,I believe the same goes for alcohol consumption as well. A filthy discusting habit which kills the users and other innocent people around them and ruins many families.


kafenes - drinking is ok, in moderation of course. Smoking on the other hand is foul, disgusting and harms others. Drinking a pint of beer doesn't effect other people but smoking one cigarette can harm people in the same room......which is not on

You can produce scientific proof that second-hand smoking is harmful I presume...? I look forward to reading the scientific papers you link to...


So, you saying that breathing 2nd hand smoke is not bad for you? It's certainly not good for youl, and can't be....really cant be bothered to look for scientific papers but feel free to prove me wrong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_smoking
http://www.epa.gov/smokefree/pubs/strsfs.html
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articl ... id=1747612
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/30421.php


You obviously misunderstood my last statement… :roll:

When I asked for scientific proof that second-hand smoke was harmful to your health I was looking for proven scientific fact and research… not your opinion or that of Roy Castle…

You made the statement that ‘smoking one cigarette can harm people in the same room’. I don’t think it is unreasonable for you to provide the scientific proof behind that statement…

Do you...?


Ok.....
http://www.cancer.org/docroot/PED/conte ... or_Air.asp

1) When non-smokers are exposed to secondhand smoke it is called involuntary smoking or passive smoking. Non-smokers who breathe in secondhand smoke take in nicotine and other toxic chemicals just like smokers do. The more secondhand smoke you are exposed to, the higher the level of these harmful chemicals in your body.

That is obvious there are more health risks when breathing in more 2nd hand smoke.

2) Secondhand smoke causes cancer

Secondhand smoke is classified as a "known human carcinogen" (cancer-causing agent) by the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the US National Toxicology Program, and the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), a branch of the World Health Organization.

3)Secondhand smoke can cause harm in many ways. In the United States alone, each year it is responsible for:

- an estimated 46,000 deaths from heart disease in non-smokers who live with smokers - about 3,400 lung cancer deaths in non-smoking adults
- other breathing problems in non-smokers, including coughing, mucus, chest discomfort, and reduced lung function
- 150,000 to 300,000 lung infections (such as pneumonia and bronchitis) in children younger than 18 months of age, which result in 7,500 to 15,000 hospitalizations annually
- increases in the number and severity of asthma attacks in about 200,000 to 1 million children who have asthma
- more than 750,000 middle ear infections in children

Enough said I think......
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Postby Z4 » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:20 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
kafenes wrote:
miltiades wrote:As I have said before , a disgusting smelly unhealthy third world filthy habit !!!


@ Milti and Bubbles,I believe the same goes for alcohol consumption as well. A filthy discusting habit which kills the users and other innocent people around them and ruins many families.


kafenes - drinking is ok, in moderation of course. Smoking on the other hand is foul, disgusting and harms others. Drinking a pint of beer doesn't effect other people but smoking one cigarette can harm people in the same room......which is not on

You can produce scientific proof that second-hand smoking is harmful I presume...? I look forward to reading the scientific papers you link to...


So, you saying that breathing 2nd hand smoke is not bad for you? It's certainly not good for youl, and can't be....really cant be bothered to look for scientific papers but feel free to prove me wrong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_smoking
http://www.epa.gov/smokefree/pubs/strsfs.html
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articl ... id=1747612
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/30421.php


You obviously misunderstood my last statement… :roll:

When I asked for scientific proof that second-hand smoke was harmful to your health I was looking for proven scientific fact and research… not your opinion or that of Roy Castle…

You made the statement that ‘smoking one cigarette can harm people in the same room’. I don’t think it is unreasonable for you to provide the scientific proof behind that statement…

Do you...?


You are also missing my point too CyprusGrump. Drinking one pint of beer will not harm the other person sat next to you where if you sat next to a smoker puffing on a B&H would. If you are a non smoker go-to your nearest bar and try both.
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:25 pm

Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
kafenes wrote:
miltiades wrote:As I have said before , a disgusting smelly unhealthy third world filthy habit !!!


@ Milti and Bubbles,I believe the same goes for alcohol consumption as well. A filthy discusting habit which kills the users and other innocent people around them and ruins many families.


kafenes - drinking is ok, in moderation of course. Smoking on the other hand is foul, disgusting and harms others. Drinking a pint of beer doesn't effect other people but smoking one cigarette can harm people in the same room......which is not on

You can produce scientific proof that second-hand smoking is harmful I presume...? I look forward to reading the scientific papers you link to...


So, you saying that breathing 2nd hand smoke is not bad for you? It's certainly not good for youl, and can't be....really cant be bothered to look for scientific papers but feel free to prove me wrong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_smoking
http://www.epa.gov/smokefree/pubs/strsfs.html
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articl ... id=1747612
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/30421.php


You obviously misunderstood my last statement… :roll:

When I asked for scientific proof that second-hand smoke was harmful to your health I was looking for proven scientific fact and research… not your opinion or that of Roy Castle…

You made the statement that ‘smoking one cigarette can harm people in the same room’. I don’t think it is unreasonable for you to provide the scientific proof behind that statement…

Do you...?


You are also missing my point too CyprusGrump. Drinking one pint of beer will not harm the other person sat next to you where is you sat next to a smoker puffing on a B&H would. If you are a non smoker go-to your nearest bar and try both.

No, your point is quite clear thank you. :roll:

You claim that smoking one cigarette is harmful to those around you yet you are clearly unable to provide proof of that claim.

When I ask you to provide proof you merely make the same claim again and claim that I have misunderstood. I have not... I'll ask you again. Please provide scientific evidence to support your claim that smoking one cigarette in a room is harmful to those around you....

If you cannot just say so...

:roll:
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Postby Z4 » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:26 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
kafenes wrote:
miltiades wrote:As I have said before , a disgusting smelly unhealthy third world filthy habit !!!


@ Milti and Bubbles,I believe the same goes for alcohol consumption as well. A filthy discusting habit which kills the users and other innocent people around them and ruins many families.


kafenes - drinking is ok, in moderation of course. Smoking on the other hand is foul, disgusting and harms others. Drinking a pint of beer doesn't effect other people but smoking one cigarette can harm people in the same room......which is not on

You can produce scientific proof that second-hand smoking is harmful I presume...? I look forward to reading the scientific papers you link to...


So, you saying that breathing 2nd hand smoke is not bad for you? It's certainly not good for youl, and can't be....really cant be bothered to look for scientific papers but feel free to prove me wrong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_smoking
http://www.epa.gov/smokefree/pubs/strsfs.html
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articl ... id=1747612
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/30421.php


You obviously misunderstood my last statement… :roll:

When I asked for scientific proof that second-hand smoke was harmful to your health I was looking for proven scientific fact and research… not your opinion or that of Roy Castle…

You made the statement that ‘smoking one cigarette can harm people in the same room’. I don’t think it is unreasonable for you to provide the scientific proof behind that statement…

Do you...?


You are also missing my point too CyprusGrump. Drinking one pint of beer will not harm the other person sat next to you where is you sat next to a smoker puffing on a B&H would. If you are a non smoker go-to your nearest bar and try both.

No, your point is quite clear thank you. :roll:

You claim that smoking one cigarette is harmful to those around you yet you are clearly unable to provide proof of that claim.

When I ask you to provide proof you merely make the same claim again and claim that I have misunderstood. I have not... I'll ask you again. Please provide scientific evidence to support your claim that smoking one cigarette in a room is harmful to those around you....

If you cannot just say so...

:roll:


You are welcome.....on the other hand please provide me with proof that it is perfectly healthy to do so :roll:
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Postby cyprusgrump » Mon Jul 13, 2009 3:34 pm

Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
kafenes wrote:
miltiades wrote:As I have said before , a disgusting smelly unhealthy third world filthy habit !!!


@ Milti and Bubbles,I believe the same goes for alcohol consumption as well. A filthy discusting habit which kills the users and other innocent people around them and ruins many families.


kafenes - drinking is ok, in moderation of course. Smoking on the other hand is foul, disgusting and harms others. Drinking a pint of beer doesn't effect other people but smoking one cigarette can harm people in the same room......which is not on

You can produce scientific proof that second-hand smoking is harmful I presume...? I look forward to reading the scientific papers you link to...


So, you saying that breathing 2nd hand smoke is not bad for you? It's certainly not good for youl, and can't be....really cant be bothered to look for scientific papers but feel free to prove me wrong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_smoking
http://www.epa.gov/smokefree/pubs/strsfs.html
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articl ... id=1747612
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/30421.php


You obviously misunderstood my last statement… :roll:

When I asked for scientific proof that second-hand smoke was harmful to your health I was looking for proven scientific fact and research… not your opinion or that of Roy Castle…

You made the statement that ‘smoking one cigarette can harm people in the same room’. I don’t think it is unreasonable for you to provide the scientific proof behind that statement…

Do you...?


You are also missing my point too CyprusGrump. Drinking one pint of beer will not harm the other person sat next to you where is you sat next to a smoker puffing on a B&H would. If you are a non smoker go-to your nearest bar and try both.

No, your point is quite clear thank you. :roll:

You claim that smoking one cigarette is harmful to those around you yet you are clearly unable to provide proof of that claim.

When I ask you to provide proof you merely make the same claim again and claim that I have misunderstood. I have not... I'll ask you again. Please provide scientific evidence to support your claim that smoking one cigarette in a room is harmful to those around you....

If you cannot just say so...

:roll:


You are welcome.....on the other hand please provide me with proof that it is perfectly healthy to do so :roll:

So you are obviously unable to provide any proof that backs your ridiculous claim then? I thought so... :roll:

You are an idiot who believes everything he reads in the Daily Mail...

If you can cope with the long words, try The British Medical Journal

I'll quote a little for you...

The British Medical Journal wrote:No significant associations were found for current or former exposure to environmental tobacco smoke before or after adjusting for seven confounders and before or after excluding participants with pre-existing disease. No significant associations were found during the shorter follow up periods of 1960-5, 1966-72, 1973-85, and 1973-98.

Conclusions The results do not support a causal relation between environmental tobacco smoke and tobacco related mortality, although they do not rule out a small effect. The association between exposure to environmental tobacco smoke and coronary heart disease and lung cancer may be considerably weaker than generally believed.


OK?

Personally I think smoking is disgusting... However, I don't believe everything I read in the papers and actually have an informed opinion on the subject. :wink:

You should try it...
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