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[miltiades]

i dont know how to put it in simple words.
Places like McDonalds and Starbucks give you the option if you are a non smoker stay inside if you are a smoker sit outside

and no i will not stay at home and watch tv. how about this? smokers stay home and watch tv and stink up your flats and houses.


i dont understand what the big deal is. believe me in England most smokers prefer it now
and by the way its happening so whatever you do or so nothing is changing so get ver it.

What on EARTH makes you think that 'most smokers' prefer being banned from every single pub, club and restaurant in the UK?

FACT: Fifty pubs are closing every week in the UK because smokers have been driven out and forced to stand outside to have a cigarette.

I'll drink to that, but obviously not in a British pub where I can't smoke (that's if I could still find one).

You can always smoke in the ...street while enjoying a drink accompanied with toxic car fumes and ...tar !!!

[cyprusgrump]

i think it's about time.
why should babies,pregnant women and old people have to inhale second hand smoke. we've come to a point where we cant go out for a nice meal without breathing that disgusting smell.

for your information i used to smoke

Ah there we are... the true sign of the righteous anti-smoking brigade!

Smoking was great when you smoked... no doubt you enjoyed the freedom to decide to smoke or not...?

Now you have given up smoking you have decided that it is 'disgusting' and nobody else should be able to choose to smoke or not!

I'm afraid you have no credibility in this discussion...

Smoking is a drug an addiction that is hard to shake off . I too was a smoker , most people of my age group were smokers, it does not mean that because we were also the victims of this horrid addiction we can not call for its ban. It is an addiction that is causing the addict an immense amount of damage both in health and in money.Give it up now and breath the fresh air , I did 10 years ago having been an addict for 38 years .
The pregnant lady is absolutely right , consideration must be given to those around the smokers , besides it is a smelly habit that leaves smelling of stale tobacco.

Nobody forced you to smoke. Indeed, there have been health warnings available for as long as I can remember.

Smokers enjoy their habit – however harmful it may be to their health and finances. Many smokers especially enjoy a cigarette after a meal…

I’m not a smoker and I’d prefer not to inhale smoke or smell of smoke after an evening out. However, I acknowledge the right of smokers to enjoy their legal habit.

You are right; consideration should be given to those around smokers. You should be able to choose to eat in a smoke free environment. In the same way, smokers should be able to choose to go to a smoking restaurant and enjoy a meal if the manager of that restaurant chooses to provide that facility.

I’m not pro smoking but I am against banning a legal substance and especially against ex-smokers who now consider it ‘disgusting’ and believe that because they have given up nobody else should be allowed to smoke anywhere.

And the reason I’m against it is that it leaves us open to people who dislike alcohol to ban that… or people telling me what to eat in case I get fat… or people telling me what films I can watch and which are bad for me…

A little late in replying but let me correct your statement on health warnings. They did not exist way back when I and those of my generation begun "enjoying" this smelly disgusting unhealthy drug . Anyone that still smokes does so NOT out of enjoyment but out of addiction , all that tobacco does is to satisfy your craving to this horrid addiction.
The more third world you travel the more this addiction is prevalent . Most , if not all smokers , have at some stage tried to kick this disgusting addiction and failed . Their time comes just as mine did after 38 years of addiction , it came in the back of an ambulance when rushed to hospital for irregular heart beats due to my lungs being full with tar.
Those who successfully gave up their addiction have a right to go any establishment and demand a smoke free atmosphere.
Give it up guys and dont tell me about enjoyment its a bloody drug and you know it .

I'm sorry but that is simply wrong.

Firstly, I'm 49 now and I remember being aware that 'smoking was bad for you' when I was a kid. So while cigarettes may not have carried health warnings as they do today, the knowledge that they are bad for you has been around for at least forty years.

So, anybody of my age or a bit older must have started smoking in no doubt that it wasn't going to improve their health.

Secondly, nobody disputes that smoking is addictive. The cocktail of chemicals in cigarettes is designed to make you want more.

However, as I said above, nobody forced you to smoke and you didn't become addicted to smoking after just one cigarette (or I would have been addicted). No, the truth is that you (and millions of other addicts) enjoyed your habit, however disgusting you now consider it to be.

And if you read all my posts you will see that I don't begrudge you the right to enjoy a meal or drink in a smoke free atmosphere. However, I do believe that a total ban is undemocratic and unfair to those who choose to smoke...

And the reason (once again) that should bother me is the anti-smoking brigade are now moving onto drinkers...

[miltiades]

No one says you can not smoke , only do so so that those around you are not subjected to your fumes.
I started smoking in 1961 and I can assure you that smoking was very cool and ...sexy !!!!
So bizarre that such a smelly act was seen as ..sexy , a bit like calling a kipper sexy !!

TV advertising ban on cigarettes in the UK was in 1967 , you must have been 7 years old at the time .

I do not condone total ban on smoking only in public places such as restaurants , bars , cinemas etc .
It will be hard to enforce in Cyprus but I'm certain in time smokers will conform .

[concerned30]

you know what stop trying to pursuade me that this law is a bad thing because the way you are going on u r trying to make everyone believe that this is the worse thing thats ever happened to this country.
smoking is a disgusting habit and you can still do it no problem -OUTSIDE
ive already lost 2 people to cancer last year and another uncle who is suffering from it and is very sick so dont try to make me feel bad for sticking to my beliefs![/quote]

[cyprusgrump]

you know what stop trying to pursuade me that this law is a bad thing because the way you are going on u r trying to make everyone believe that this is the worse thing thats ever happened to this country.
smoking is a disgusting habit and you can still do it no problem -OUTSIDE
ive already lost 2 people to cancer last year and another uncle who is suffering from it and is very sick so dont try to make me feel bad for sticking to my beliefs!

You'll have to excuse my ignorance!

It is hilarious that you, an ex-smoker now thinks it is okay to ban a perfectly legal product because you now think it is disgusting...

And yet, you can't see the parallel with alcohol. You can't see that if it is perfectly reasonable to ban a legal substance without anybody voting for it that they might be able to restrict your other liberties without anybody voting for it...

What if somebody in the EU decides they don't like the smell of BBQ smoke or that it is bad for the environment...? Do you think that because they think it is 'disgusting' they should be able to ban you form having a BBQ outside...?

It is exactly the same principle...

As I said previously, I don't smoke, I prefer a smoke-free environment but I object strongly to my freedom to choose being taken away from me. You should too...

[cyprusgrump]

By the way…

All those applauding the ban on smoking in public places might like to remember that after only 6 weeks, members of the European parliament (MEPs) reversed a decision banning smoking in their buildings.

British MPs also excluded themselves from draconian anti-smoking laws in the UK allowing smoking in Westminster bars and cafés…

No doubt Cypriot politicians will also deem themselves to be above the law when it comes to smoking…

Still think it is a good law aimed primarily at reducing smoking related disease…?

[Milo]

By the way…

All those applauding the ban on smoking in public places might like to remember that after only 6 weeks, members of the European parliament (MEPs) reversed a decision banning smoking in their buildings.

British MPs also excluded themselves from draconian anti-smoking laws in the UK allowing smoking in Westminster bars and cafés…

No doubt Cypriot politicians will also deem themselves to be above the law when it comes to smoking…

Still think it is a good law aimed primarily at reducing smoking related disease…?

Its true do as we say not as we do, smoking will still be allowed in the Cafeteria in the Cypriot Parliament.