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[Alpeis]

Slave was your word, not mine. A slave doesn't ask his master to unlock his chains. He fights for that to happen. And that takes balls, like Spartacus had.

Considering the past, I wouldn't fight for getting rid of the chains. They have a fear of racism as it costed many lives in the past.
While I consider you GCs you don't have a fear although you had more losses in the past. Isn't it interesting?

[Kikapu]

Peace and freedom are the most precious elements of life and TC's now have the freedom, no matter they are slaves to Turkey they DO have peace in their land...

I'm sorry but if they are slaves to Turkey they are not free.

Yes, they have peace, as the slaves in ancient Rome had peace serving their masters... before joining Spartacus's slave army to fight for the freedom they yearned for more than peace.

They are more free than Turkish citizens with no doubt!

This may be true, but they are Cypriot and EU citizens. And compared to their countrymen in the south, they are, as you say, slaves.

I don't think it really bothers them. They must be happy with what they have, otherwise they would have asked the Turkish Army to leave by now.

As an Intellectual, you seem to be lacking in any Intelligence with your above comments. First of all, the overwhelming majority in the north are settlers, just like yourself, or Illegal Aliens, which ever title you want to use, it's fine by me, and since these settlers are from the same country as the Turkish Army, why would they ask them to leave when they are living mostly in GCs properties. Do you think any honest TC has a chance to first go up against the Fascist NeoPartitionist, then against all the Illegal Aliens, and then the Turkish Military. Are you nuts. I thought I read somewhere that you said you knew the TCs better than the TCs themselves, and then you write the above. Surely committing "Sins of Haram" is not what most decent TCs want to do, do they Alpeis.? Given the choice for the TCs to live in an honest society with all the freedom given to them by True Democracy, surely they cannot be wanting to be under Military Rule and a “corrupt society”, could they, Alpeis. I swear you said that you were an Intellectual when you first joined the forum. Perhaps I made a mistake and have mistaken you with someone else, like YFred.!!

[The Cypriot]

Slave was your word, not mine. A slave doesn't ask his master to unlock his chains. He fights for that to happen. And that takes balls, like Spartacus had.

Considering the past, I wouldn't fight for getting rid of the chains. They have a fear of racism as it costed many lives in the past.
While I consider you GCs you don't have a fear although you had more losses in the past. Isn't it interesting?

A Cypriot worthy of the name is fearless. A Cypriot worthy of the name thinks freedom is worth fighting for, dying for if necessary.

That's why the Cypriots in the south have their freedom, if not all their island. And why Cypriots in the north, living on stolen land, have neither.

[Alpeis]

Peace and freedom are the most precious elements of life and TC's now have the freedom, no matter they are slaves to Turkey they DO have peace in their land...

I'm sorry but if they are slaves to Turkey they are not free.

Yes, they have peace, as the slaves in ancient Rome had peace serving their masters... before joining Spartacus's slave army to fight for the freedom they yearned for more than peace.

They are more free than Turkish citizens with no doubt!

This may be true, but they are Cypriot and EU citizens. And compared to their countrymen in the south, they are, as you say, slaves.

I don't think it really bothers them. They must be happy with what they have, otherwise they would have asked the Turkish Army to leave by now.

First of all, the overwhelming majority in the north are settlers,

LOL if you will feel more comfortable you call me idiot

I am an expat; not a settler, and the overwhelming majority in the North are not settlers. Seemingly you have no idea about the numbers of settlers or also what a settler means. Should I take the rest of your passage into account which starts with false hearsay information. I never talk on a matter which I am not sure or lack the knowledge of. You would better do the same otherwise people would not find you worth speaking. It's just a friendly recommendation, don't take it offensive

If you want to talk about the real facts here I am, otherwise there is no point to discuss anything for nothing

[Viewpoint]

Kikapu has never been to the TRNC, I am also very suspiscious that he is a GC fighting their corner disguised as a TC, not once has put forward or supported anything remotely in favour of the TCs and their viewpoint. You will see his posts run us into the ground and he revels in ridiculing and degrading anything we put forward.

[Dr J]

While I consider you GCs you don't have a fear although you had more losses in the past. Isn't it interesting?

Losses how? We have been here since antiquity and no foreign ruler has stayed forever. Egyptian rule came and went, so did Arab, so did Latin and anyone other foreign imperial power that i haven't mentioned. We are living in the age where Turkish and British dominance we leave also.

[Kikapu]

Kikapu has never been to the TRNC, I am also very suspiscious that he is a GC fighting their corner disguised as a TC, not once has put forward or supported anything remotely in favour of the TCs and their viewpoint. You will see his posts run us into the ground and he revels in ridiculing and degrading anything we put forward.

You wished that I was a GC, so that you can say "Kikapu is always beating me up because of my Fascistic views, because he is a GC and I'm a "Turk of Cyprus".!

I fight my corner as a Cypriot for the benefit for all Cypriots. I don't care if you are a GC, TC or any other numerical minorities in Cyprus.

Any proposals I put can only include True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws. Anything other than those principles, I do not support, so give me something to support that the TCs agree with the above principles. Recently I had asked you to do just that and your response was;

"Im not putting anything forward for you to rip to shreds, fell into that trap to many times."

[shahmaran]

If he has never lived here obviously it would be hard for him to "know" what is for the "benefit of all Cypriots", if there really is such a thing in the first place

[Viewpoint]

Kikapu has never been to the TRNC, I am also very suspiscious that he is a GC fighting their corner disguised as a TC, not once has put forward or supported anything remotely in favour of the TCs and their viewpoint. You will see his posts run us into the ground and he revels in ridiculing and degrading anything we put forward.

You wished that I was a GC, so that you can say "Kikapu is always beating me up because of my Fascistic views, because he is a GC and I'm a "Turk of Cyprus".!

I fight my corner as a Cypriot for the benefit for all Cypriots. I don't care if you are a GC, TC or any other numerical minorities in Cyprus.

Any proposals I put can only include True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws. Anything other than those principles, I do not support, so give me something to support that the TCs agree with the above principles. Recently I had asked you to do just that and your response was;

"Im not putting anything forward for you to rip to shreds, fell into that trap to many times."

So what you are saying is that the freedom of movement or the demilitarization of the island are not what you can support as they are not within the realm of True Democracy and human rights which can easily be manipulated and used to camaflouge discriminaiton and majority domination.

For example the majority can vote for capital punishment, doesnt make it right or they can vote for women to be covered from head to toe doesnt make it right.

[tayl0r]

I would NEVER support the turkish occupation...i'm a british citizen...although i am biased for i am also greek cypriot.