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[YFred]

exactly tell that to talat who claims the people they brought to cyprus from turkey.. the settlers from turkey are somehow now cypriotfied....

Well 30 years is enough to "Cypriofy" a whole generation.

I'm not fond of the Eastern "Turks" raiding this beautiful island with their Islamic crap, but separating who needs to go and who stays is a very delicate process.

I don't agree cos it's simple - married to a tissy and offspring of such a marriage automatically stay.

Everyone else is there contrary to Geneva and will have to puss off at Jurkey's expense pending results of due application to the post-settlement federal government.

The above is (put simply) how it works in the rest of the world.

Simples.

You forgot one rule that RoC is very good at applying. If one is entitled to stay then do not process the application, wait until a good excuse can be found to deny and then kick out.

But don't worry about such matters because the northern territory is perfectly capable of deciding such matters and perfectly capable of applying normal international laws on who is allowed and who is not old boy, what?

We certainly will not be applying the German procedures where a person can be third generation Turkish and still not be entitled to a German citizenship other wise known as the SS laws.

[Nikitas]

"normal international laws"

You are a funny guy! What you been doing since 1974 is applying "normal international laws"? That is why you have so many judgements against you in the ECHR, the UN security council, and many other international bodies. Unless of course you think that all these decisions are based on "abnormal international law".

[YFred]

"normal international laws"

You are a funny guy! What you been doing since 1974 is applying "normal international laws"? That is why you have so many judgements against you in the ECHR, the UN security council, and many other international bodies. Unless of course you think that all these decisions are based on "abnormal international law".

Nikitas, you are not so unfunny yourself and the UN is controlled by who? USA, Russia, UK, France and China. Which one of them is normal that they should be implementing "normal international laws"?

[Dr J]

OK YFred, so the rest of the worlds laws are wrong and Turkey's is morally right!

This is the shit Cypriots have to put up with from the Turks.

[YFred]

OK YFred, so the rest of the worlds laws are wrong and Turkey's is morally right!

This is the shit Cypriots have to put up with from the Turks.

Not at all. Laws are there to protect the establishmnet and those who have the muscle to implement them. Turkey is no different than any other country.

You are so cosy with France ( a civilised EU country ?) how many Algerians did they murder, or does that not count because they are christian. Russians in Chechenistan, America in Vietnam and since then. These are the civilised people we are to use as an example? No thanks.

[shahmaran]

exactly tell that to talat who claims the people they brought to cyprus from turkey.. the settlers from turkey are somehow now cypriotfied....

Well 30 years is enough to "Cypriofy" a whole generation.

I'm not fond of the Eastern "Turks" raiding this beautiful island with their Islamic crap, but separating who needs to go and who stays is a very delicate process.

I don't agree cos it's simple - married to a tissy and offspring of such a marriage automatically stay.

Everyone else is there contrary to Geneva and will have to puss off at Jurkey's expense pending results of due application to the post-settlement federal government.

The above is (put simply) how it works in the rest of the world.

Simples.

In many countries you are born there you are a citizen.

Other countries you have blood connection you are a citizen.

RoC however, neither is accepted and follow different and weird rules.

THAT IS how it works here!

[paliometoxo]

for me its where your perants are from.... what are these weird roc rules you talk about?

[bill cobbett]

exactly tell that to talat who claims the people they brought to cyprus from turkey.. the settlers from turkey are somehow now cypriotfied....

Well 30 years is enough to "Cypriofy" a whole generation.

I'm not fond of the Eastern "Turks" raiding this beautiful island with their Islamic crap, but separating who needs to go and who stays is a very delicate process.

I don't agree cos it's simple - married to a tissy and offspring of such a marriage automatically stay.

Everyone else is there contrary to Geneva and will have to puss off at Jurkey's expense pending results of due application to the post-settlement federal government.

The above is (put simply) how it works in the rest of the world.

Simples.

In many countries you are born there you are a citizen.

Other countries you have blood connection you are a citizen.

RoC however, neither is accepted and follow different and weird rules.

THAT IS how it works here!

Shah, if you are right then I must condemn the Roc and I assure you I don't have a problem condemning it or any other gov when they're wrong.

I would however wait for expert confirmation or otherwise to back up or refute what you say.

[shahmaran]

exactly tell that to talat who claims the people they brought to cyprus from turkey.. the settlers from turkey are somehow now cypriotfied....

Well 30 years is enough to "Cypriofy" a whole generation.

I'm not fond of the Eastern "Turks" raiding this beautiful island with their Islamic crap, but separating who needs to go and who stays is a very delicate process.

I don't agree cos it's simple - married to a tissy and offspring of such a marriage automatically stay.

Everyone else is there contrary to Geneva and will have to puss off at Jurkey's expense pending results of due application to the post-settlement federal government.

The above is (put simply) how it works in the rest of the world.

Simples.

In many countries you are born there you are a citizen.

Other countries you have blood connection you are a citizen.

RoC however, neither is accepted and follow different and weird rules.

THAT IS how it works here!

Shah, if you are right then I must condemn the Roc and I assure you I don't have a problem condemning it or any other gov when they're wrong.

I would however wait for expert confirmation or otherwise to back up or refute what you say.

Bill, we had this discussion in the General section under a thread about RoC citizenship.

We have concluded that the RoC follows Annex D laws which don't seem to follow the usual ways found in other countries, this is my understanding.

I have not managed to find the full version of the laws.

But I can tell you that I know of people who are born and raised Cypriots with Cypriot mothers BUT Turkish fathers and they are in their 30's now, these people have been refused RoC citizenship.

Technically these people will have no nationality in the case of a solution that is acceptable to the RoC.

[Oracle]

exactly tell that to talat who claims the people they brought to cyprus from turkey.. the settlers from turkey are somehow now cypriotfied....

Well 30 years is enough to "Cypriofy" a whole generation.

I'm not fond of the Eastern "Turks" raiding this beautiful island with their Islamic crap, but separating who needs to go and who stays is a very delicate process.

I don't agree cos it's simple - married to a tissy and offspring of such a marriage automatically stay.

Everyone else is there contrary to Geneva and will have to puss off at Jurkey's expense pending results of due application to the post-settlement federal government.

The above is (put simply) how it works in the rest of the world.

Simples.

In many countries you are born there you are a citizen.

Other countries you have blood connection you are a citizen.

RoC however, neither is accepted and follow different and weird rules.

THAT IS how it works here!

Shah, if you are right then I must condemn the Roc and I assure you I don't have a problem condemning it or any other gov when they're wrong.

I would however wait for expert confirmation or otherwise to back up or refute what you say.

Bill, we had this discussion in the General section under a thread about RoC citizenship.

We have concluded that the RoC follows Annex D laws which don't seem to follow the usual ways found in other countries, this is my understanding.

I have not managed to find the full version of the laws.

But I can tell you that I know of people who are born and raised Cypriots with Cypriot mothers BUT Turkish fathers and they are in their 30's now, these people have been refused RoC citizenship.

Technically these people will have no nationality in the case of a solution that is acceptable to the RoC.

Tough ... they have to go through the same procedures as my son who has a Scottish father ... and Scotland is in the EU ... unlike racist scumbag Turkish colonist settlers!