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[Kifeas]

Afrika reports that this monument was debated in the TRNC parliament, where the only dissenting voice came from TDP leader Mehmet Çakıcı, who said (my translation):

“Ataturk, who said ‘Peace at home, peace in the world’ would not have permitted the construction of such a monument right next to the border at a time when peace negotiations are being held”

“I do not want monuments which target others in my country and which conjure up images of war.”

and directed at Interior Minister İlkay Kamil (implying that the Turkish army was pulling all the strings) “You are not the master of your own country.”

http://www.afrikagazetesi.net/modules.p ... =0&thold=0

Thanks Tim for the translations. When a people or a society and its leadership feel insecure and uncertain about themselves and the legitimacy of their cause or purpose in the eyes of their followers and the rest of the world; the immediate first resort will be to take refuge to nationalist rhetoric, slogans and provocative demonstrations of pride, as an instinctive childish reaction; but also in order to disorient or boost the moral and even fanaticize their public. This is precisely the case with the TC leadership and certain of its civil society “institutions,” but also a tactic that has been followed in Turkey for years, in order to blind the masses.

[shahmaran]

I guess the US feels pretty insecure with all them flags and statues of passed Americans all over the place.

You theory does not make sense Kifeas.

[Kifeas]

I guess the US feels pretty insecure with all them flags and statues of passed Americans all over the place.

You theory does not make sense Kifeas.

I I guess you should take a trip to the US, and I am sure you will find out how clueless you are in that respect. The only time you will see lots of US flags around will only be for 1 day, the 4th of July. Outside this and apart from some government or public buildings, you hardly see any flags around. As for statues, I can assure you that Turkey, a country at least 5 times smaller, has more statues and flags planted around than the whole of the US has.

As for my theory, is not mine at all. Take a good course in social psychology, or read a book or two, as it will be an eye opener for you.

[shahmaran]

Yeah you are right, Kifeas, any country with lots of flags and statues feels insecure about their identity.

Maybe UK feels insecure too as you see flags and royal symbols all over the place every day of the year.

I have only JUST managed to finish an Art and a Business IT course and hoping to start an MA on International Law and Politics.

So maybe you can recommend me a few good authors on Social Psychology?

Please, I am very intrigued and would LOVE to open my eyes to your reality

[iceman]

I have no issued with Ataturk statues in Cyprus, as much as I find them to be pretty much meaningless here, specially in such numbers.

But those fucking mosques! God dam it!

These religious morons multiply like cockroaches and build their shit all over the place in such numbers that most of them are practically empty because there just isn't enough religious people on this side of the island, TC's don't give a shit about Islam, why can't they see it!

These stinking bastards are the people that need to be kicked out, not the hard working immigrants.

Shah
You couldn't have been more wrong about your above statement..Which part of the island do you live?
In Kyrenia where i live, the mosques on Fridays fill so much with these mainlanders that they close the roads to traffic and lay mattresses on the tarmac to pray.
The new big mosque gets soo crowded people pray in the yard and the garden around the mosque!!

[Viewpoint]

I have no issued with Ataturk statues in Cyprus, as much as I find them to be pretty much meaningless here, specially in such numbers.

But those fucking mosques! God dam it!

These religious morons multiply like cockroaches and build their shit all over the place in such numbers that most of them are practically empty because there just isn't enough religious people on this side of the island, TC's don't give a shit about Islam, why can't they see it!

These stinking bastards are the people that need to be kicked out, not the hard working immigrants.

Shah
You couldn't have been more wrong about your above statement..Which part of the island do you live?
In Kyrenia where i live, the mosques on Fridays fill so much with these mainlanders that they close the roads to traffic and lay mattresses on the tarmac to pray.
The new big mosque gets soo crowded people pray in the yard and the garden around the mosque!!

How many Tcs attend outside of the elderly who have nothing better to do.

[shahmaran]

I have no issued with Ataturk statues in Cyprus, as much as I find them to be pretty much meaningless here, specially in such numbers.

But those fucking mosques! God dam it!

These religious morons multiply like cockroaches and build their shit all over the place in such numbers that most of them are practically empty because there just isn't enough religious people on this side of the island, TC's don't give a shit about Islam, why can't they see it!

These stinking bastards are the people that need to be kicked out, not the hard working immigrants.

Shah
You couldn't have been more wrong about your above statement..Which part of the island do you live?
In Kyrenia where i live, the mosques on Fridays fill so much with these mainlanders that they close the roads to traffic and lay mattresses on the tarmac to pray.
The new big mosque gets soo crowded people pray in the yard and the garden around the mosque!!

I guess I get more of them around here since I am neighbors with Sheik freaking Nazım in Lefke.

We get herds of these bearded-towel-headed loonies, soon this place will look like Saudi Arabia.

And apparently Tayip has given the order that no mosque should be left without a minaret, so they are putting them up while building more mosques and more speakers, more noise, god dam!

We have about 5 mosques just in the town center and I don't know of 1 local who visits them or that Sheik Nazım. It's all about foreigners who come, both Turkish and Europeans.

I'm sorry, I just have a deep passionate hate for these people as they represent in my eyes, the utmost epitome of ignorance and total blindness

[Kifeas]

I have no issued with Ataturk statues in Cyprus, as much as I find them to be pretty much meaningless here, specially in such numbers.

But those fucking mosques! God dam it!

These religious morons multiply like cockroaches and build their shit all over the place in such numbers that most of them are practically empty because there just isn't enough religious people on this side of the island, TC's don't give a shit about Islam, why can't they see it!

These stinking bastards are the people that need to be kicked out, not the hard working immigrants.

Shah
You couldn't have been more wrong about your above statement..Which part of the island do you live?
In Kyrenia where i live, the mosques on Fridays fill so much with these mainlanders that they close the roads to traffic and lay mattresses on the tarmac to pray.
The new big mosque gets soo crowded people pray in the yard and the garden around the mosque!!

I guess I get more of them around here since I am neighbors with Sheik freaking Nazım in Lefke.

We get herds of these bearded-towel-headed loonies, soon this place will look like Saudi Arabia.

And apparently Tayip has given the order that no mosque should be left without a minaret, so they are putting them up while building more mosques and more speakers, more noise, god dam!

We have about 5 mosques just in the town center and I don't know of 1 local who visits them or that Sheik Nazım. It's all about foreigners who come, both Turkish and Europeans.

I'm sorry, I just have a deep passionate hate for these people as they represent in my eyes, the utmost epitome of ignorance and total blindness

Shah, whether you like it or not, and I know you do not like to hear it, especially when it comes from a GC; your salvation as a community will only come through a solution, but this requires that you as common TCs, but more so your leadership, must come to their senses, leave aside your paranoia and maximalist demands and claims, and try to meet the GCs half way as we are already standing. Alternatively, you are in deep shit, and it gets deeper by the day. The choice is yours really ...each one of you!

[Tim Drayton]

I have no issued with Ataturk statues in Cyprus, as much as I find them to be pretty much meaningless here, specially in such numbers.

But those fucking mosques! God dam it!

These religious morons multiply like cockroaches and build their shit all over the place in such numbers that most of them are practically empty because there just isn't enough religious people on this side of the island, TC's don't give a shit about Islam, why can't they see it!

These stinking bastards are the people that need to be kicked out, not the hard working immigrants.

Shah
You couldn't have been more wrong about your above statement..Which part of the island do you live?
In Kyrenia where i live, the mosques on Fridays fill so much with these mainlanders that they close the roads to traffic and lay mattresses on the tarmac to pray.
The new big mosque gets soo crowded people pray in the yard and the garden around the mosque!!

I guess I get more of them around here since I am neighbors with Sheik freaking Nazım in Lefke.

We get herds of these bearded-towel-headed loonies, soon this place will look like Saudi Arabia.

And apparently Tayip has given the order that no mosque should be left without a minaret, so they are putting them up while building more mosques and more speakers, more noise, god dam!

We have about 5 mosques just in the town center and I don't know of 1 local who visits them or that Sheik Nazım. It's all about foreigners who come, both Turkish and Europeans.

I'm sorry, I just have a deep passionate hate for these people as they represent in my eyes, the utmost epitome of ignorance and total blindness

It was actually Deniz who pointed out to me that this individual is a TC, from Larnaka. I had previously imagined that he had migrated from Anatolia. So perhaps one should not generalise too much in saying that TCs are not religious.

[Get Real!]

Being overly religious can be bad, but being overly anti-religious can be just as bad… they’re both extreme.