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Postby YFred » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:42 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Who wants to bet the EU will absolutely nothing to Turkey come end of 2009? when will you people realize that you are not that important and the EU will tollerate your behave as long as they can exploit you, Turkey is a regional power vital for stability in the region...when what you claim does not happen at the end of the year will you accept how wrong and stupid you were and that you do not understand how things really work between the big guys.

If Cyprus is/was not on par with Turkey then how come she keeps getting her way all these years in so many issues at Turkey's expense? :lol:

You can have 100000000 other things, but what about the one thing you really really really realy want, but can't have? what good is that?
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:44 pm

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WE ARE READY TO OPEN PORTS IN RETURN FOR EASING TRNC ISOLATION


We don't need your stupid ports. That is just the way to inflict a slow and painful end to your EU accession. How many chapter are closed so far? :lol:


4 billion dollars a year is a great incentive.


What are you talking about? :?


The revenue that would be generated if you could use Turkish ports.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:45 pm

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paliometoxo wrote:exactly turkey does what it does best ignore laws himan rights violtions and lives like appes who still marry donkeys its a 3rd world country probably a lot worse then south cyprus and close to africa where people are dying of the cold..

just how long can turkey keep the illigal state alive keep pumping money to the trnc and taking money from the casions it makes... how does a state run by the mafia and turkish arkmy expect to become anything.... just germany and france alone not wanting turkey in eu is enough.. maybe only two countries want turkey in the eu.. so without a cyprus probably turkey still wouldent be in eu


If you dont know my opinion I will repeat it Im not a great fan of the EU and I definatly think Turkey is not an EU nation and will never get in, the EU will be resolved before Turkey has any chnace of entering. This should concern you more than me because your whole leverage card is the EU, Turkey with no EU aspirations and you have no leverage, what will you do then?


It is Turkey which is going to be resolved before the 20 years that is the minimum time that is needed to enter EU. So yeah, better don't bother now. When Turkey will be split up maybe the western part can apply again.


Turkey can do whatever she wants.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:47 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Who wants to bet the EU will absolutely nothing to Turkey come end of 2009? when will you people realize that you are not that important and the EU will tollerate your behave as long as they can exploit you, Turkey is a regional power vital for stability in the region...when what you claim does not happen at the end of the year will you accept how wrong and stupid you were and that you do not understand how things really work between the big guys.

If Cyprus is/was not on par with Turkey then how come she keeps getting her way all these years in so many issues at Turkey's expense? :lol:


And still Turkey does not yield...you cannot force Turkey to do anything she will do it when she is good and ready the same with the ports issue, this will go hand in hand with relaxation of isolation on the north, you watch how things develop at the end of this year.
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Postby Sotos » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:48 pm

Many of the EU chapters of Turkey are frozen by Cyprus and the EU accession of Turkey is practically already killed by Cyprus ;) Turkey knows that there is no EU without a solution of the Cyprus problem. We made this very clear.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:51 pm

Sotos wrote:Many of the EU chapters of Turkey are frozen by Cyprus and the EU accession of Turkey is practically already killed by Cyprus ;) Turkey knows that there is no EU without a solution of the Cyprus problem. We made this very clear.


Will you be suprised if new chapters are opened? and then all at once all closed...this is how things happen and the little "RoC" will not have the necessary weight to stop things but this is 20 years off and in the meantime the population in North is becoming larger than yours...will you still demand unification with one man one vote in 20 30 years time?
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:53 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Who wants to bet the EU will absolutely nothing to Turkey come end of 2009? when will you people realize that you are not that important and the EU will tollerate your behave as long as they can exploit you, Turkey is a regional power vital for stability in the region...when what you claim does not happen at the end of the year will you accept how wrong and stupid you were and that you do not understand how things really work between the big guys.

If Cyprus is/was not on par with Turkey then how come she keeps getting her way all these years in so many issues at Turkey's expense? :lol:


And still Turkey does not yield...you cannot force Turkey to do anything she will do it when she is good and ready the same with the ports issue, this will go hand in hand with relaxation of isolation on the north, you watch how things develop at the end of this year.

Once the oil starts flowing in any “influence” Turkey has left will have evaporated! :lol:

It’s the natural selection process I’ve always believed in… 8)
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:55 pm

Viewpoint wrote:...this is 20 years off and in the meantime the population in North is becoming larger than yours...will you still demand unification with one man one vote in 20 30 years time?

There won't be a need for that VP as there won't be any TCs left to share anything with.
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Postby YFred » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:56 pm

Get Real! wrote:
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Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Who wants to bet the EU will absolutely nothing to Turkey come end of 2009? when will you people realize that you are not that important and the EU will tollerate your behave as long as they can exploit you, Turkey is a regional power vital for stability in the region...when what you claim does not happen at the end of the year will you accept how wrong and stupid you were and that you do not understand how things really work between the big guys.

If Cyprus is/was not on par with Turkey then how come she keeps getting her way all these years in so many issues at Turkey's expense? :lol:


And still Turkey does not yield...you cannot force Turkey to do anything she will do it when she is good and ready the same with the ports issue, this will go hand in hand with relaxation of isolation on the north, you watch how things develop at the end of this year.

Once the oil starts flowing in any “influence” Turkey has left will have evaporated! :lol:

It’s the natural selection process I’ve always believed in… 8)

Dream on. First you have to find it and then you have to extract it. Good luck on both counts. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Sotos » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:56 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Who wants to bet the EU will absolutely nothing to Turkey come end of 2009? when will you people realize that you are not that important and the EU will tollerate your behave as long as they can exploit you, Turkey is a regional power vital for stability in the region...when what you claim does not happen at the end of the year will you accept how wrong and stupid you were and that you do not understand how things really work between the big guys.

If Cyprus is/was not on par with Turkey then how come she keeps getting her way all these years in so many issues at Turkey's expense? :lol:


And still Turkey does not yield...you cannot force Turkey to do anything she will do it when she is good and ready the same with the ports issue, this will go hand in hand with relaxation of isolation on the north, you watch how things develop at the end of this year.


:lol: Keep dreaming. The best thing that Turkey can hope for is to give her one more year extension because there are negotiations going so we will see if they will accept our terms by the end of the negotiations which should be end of 2009 or in 2010. If the negotiations fail then we will begin our counter attack with our courts passing judgments Orams style and EU accession of Turkey ending in 2010.
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