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[akiner]

Didn't Papadopoulos submit a list of 13 ammendments to the Annan Plan to the Greek-Cypriot national council in 2005 and they were approved by them?
So why this hysterical condemnation of everything to do with it by some Greek-Cypriot politicians?Didn't it contain some positiive provisions too?
On the return of territory, for example?Or do they imagine they will get even more back now?

I hope they will give us nothing this time, so that we can reject it with a 100% NO vote.

Please please reject any new plan or even better walk away from the talks.

Personally I will, if it will be a disguised AP.

Anyway the talks seem to go around less important issues to avoid the territorial-property one.

Why abandon the talks? No need for that! Christofias may propose Talat to play some backgammon if they can't agree on anything!

Your repeated NO with bring with it concessions for the North so we are hoping you will walk away or reject a second referendum.

Just like all the concessions you got from the world and the EU after the 2004 NO vote by the GCs, and you even claimed those concessions were promised to you, so where are they.???? You are not even getting any promises this time around, but you expect concessions all the same. If anything, the GCs got into the EU, ECJ ruling and have a veto vote over Turkey’s EU admission. So yes VP, go ahead and believe that concessions will be pouring TCs way if the GCs vote NO again on a BAD plan, just as the AP was.

That is just an another example of two faced Eu behavior, and a great proof not to Trust the organization... While that kind of incidents are still remembered by the public and its support for joining Eu decrasing day by day, you should continue dreaming a pro-GC/Eu solution before Turkey's enterance...

[Kifeas]

No Akiner, you got it all wrong! We are not dreaming for a pro-GC/Eu solution! We are only dreaming for a fair and lasting pro-Cypriot solution! It is only you and Turkey that are dreaming for a pro-TC and a pro-Turkish solution!

[akiner]

Akiner, let me ask you something else. Since you have the besotted belief that you “won” the war in 1974 (in fact you will celebrate it with a parade in a few days) and you have now “earned” 37% of Cyprus as your “TRNC” homeland, and since you also have the besotted belief that in time there will be a permanent partition that will allow you to run away with such a disproportionately big chunk of Cyprus, and establish an exclusively Turkish national entity in Cyprus; why are you on the negotiating table, together with the “defeated” Greek Cypriot “losers?” For what reason are you negotiating with us, if you feel you have nothing to compromise on?

to my understanding it is just for "Public Relations for International Affairs".
i am sure the head of the delegations on both sides also guess, there wont be a fair solution which will be accepted by both entities while one of the sides backed by Eu...

[Viewpoint]

No Akiner, you got it all wrong! We are not dreaming for a pro-GC/Eu solution! We are only dreaming for a fair and lasting pro-Cypriot solution! It is only you and Turkey that are dreaming for a pro-TC and a pro-Turkish solution!

You really do not know TCs and how they think, do you know any personally Kifeas? I doubt it very much.

[Kifeas]

Akiner, let me ask you something else. Since you have the besotted belief that you “won” the war in 1974 (in fact you will celebrate it with a parade in a few days) and you have now “earned” 37% of Cyprus as your “TRNC” homeland, and since you also have the besotted belief that in time there will be a permanent partition that will allow you to run away with such a disproportionately big chunk of Cyprus, and establish an exclusively Turkish national entity in Cyprus; why are you on the negotiating table, together with the “defeated” Greek Cypriot “losers?” For what reason are you negotiating with us, if you feel you have nothing to compromise on?

to my understanding it is just for "Public Relations for International Affairs".
i am sure the head of the delegations on both sides also guess, there wont be a fair solution which will be accepted by both entities while one of the sides backed by Eu...

I have never heard you complaining for the fact that for the past 35 years, one of the two sides is backed by the military might of a country 100 times bigger that the GCs.

[Kifeas]

No Akiner, you got it all wrong! We are not dreaming for a pro-GC/Eu solution! We are only dreaming for a fair and lasting pro-Cypriot solution! It is only you and Turkey that are dreaming for a pro-TC and a pro-Turkish solution!

You really do not know TCs and how they think, do you know any personally Kifeas? I doubt it very much.

Translation please!

[Kikapu]

Didn't Papadopoulos submit a list of 13 ammendments to the Annan Plan to the Greek-Cypriot national council in 2005 and they were approved by them?
So why this hysterical condemnation of everything to do with it by some Greek-Cypriot politicians?Didn't it contain some positiive provisions too?
On the return of territory, for example?Or do they imagine they will get even more back now?

I hope they will give us nothing this time, so that we can reject it with a 100% NO vote.

Please please reject any new plan or even better walk away from the talks.

Personally I will, if it will be a disguised AP.

Anyway the talks seem to go around less important issues to avoid the territorial-property one.

Why abandon the talks? No need for that! Christofias may propose Talat to play some backgammon if they can't agree on anything!

Your repeated NO with bring with it concessions for the North so we are hoping you will walk away or reject a second referendum.

Just like all the concessions you got from the world and the EU after the 2004 NO vote by the GCs, and you even claimed those concessions were promised to you, so where are they.???? You are not even getting any promises this time around, but you expect concessions all the same. If anything, the GCs got into the EU, ECJ ruling and have a veto vote over Turkey’s EU admission. So yes VP, go ahead and believe that concessions will be pouring TCs way if the GCs vote NO again on a BAD plan, just as the AP was.

That is just an another example of two faced Eu behavior, and a great proof not to Trust the organization... While that kind of incidents are still remembered by the public and its support for joining Eu decrasing day by day, you should continue dreaming a pro-GC/Eu solution before Turkey's enterance...

I did state that it was a "CLAIMED" promise to lift the so called of isolation of the north, not that it was a real claim. The EU body made no such claims other that some loser working for the EU said this. You should get it on paper next time and not on some idiots word, but I doubt there will be anything of the sort by the EU body, because Cyprus is part of that body. The whole "promise" thing was nothing but a cheap trick to get the GCs to say YES to the AP and the GCs called their bluff, not that they would have voted for the AP anyway.!

[Viewpoint]

No Akiner, you got it all wrong! We are not dreaming for a pro-GC/Eu solution! We are only dreaming for a fair and lasting pro-Cypriot solution! It is only you and Turkey that are dreaming for a pro-TC and a pro-Turkish solution!

You really do not know TCs and how they think, do you know any personally Kifeas? I doubt it very much.

Translation please!

DO YOU PERSONALLY KNOW ANY TURKISH CYPRIOTS? as you dont have a damn clue about how they think.

[Kifeas]

No Akiner, you got it all wrong! We are not dreaming for a pro-GC/Eu solution! We are only dreaming for a fair and lasting pro-Cypriot solution! It is only you and Turkey that are dreaming for a pro-TC and a pro-Turkish solution!

You really do not know TCs and how they think, do you know any personally Kifeas? I doubt it very much.

Translation please!

DO YOU PERSONALLY KNOW ANY TURKISH CYPRIOTS? as you dont have a damn clue about how they think.

Tell me how they think then, since I have no clue.

[akiner]

Akiner, let me ask you something else. Since you have the besotted belief that you “won” the war in 1974 (in fact you will celebrate it with a parade in a few days) and you have now “earned” 37% of Cyprus as your “TRNC” homeland, and since you also have the besotted belief that in time there will be a permanent partition that will allow you to run away with such a disproportionately big chunk of Cyprus, and establish an exclusively Turkish national entity in Cyprus; why are you on the negotiating table, together with the “defeated” Greek Cypriot “losers?” For what reason are you negotiating with us, if you feel you have nothing to compromise on?

to my understanding it is just for "Public Relations for International Affairs".
i am sure the head of the delegations on both sides also guess, there wont be a fair solution which will be accepted by both entities while one of the sides backed by Eu...

I have never heard you complaining for the fact that for the past 35 years, one of the two sides is backed by the military might of a country 100 times bigger that the GCs.

Anyway Kifeas, because Turkey's and Tc's public could not be cheated by Eu carrot anymore(as the poll results show) with the current attitude the result will most probably be Taksim, so who will pay the big chunck of the toll then?