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[Viewpoint]

It doesn't matter cause still... in a hundred years your children are the ones who will be desperate and angry cause something right happened: We got our country back

How's that?

Very childish....but dream on...my children are not desperate you are trying to get back what you lost forever, sad part is you dont realize it yet.

[aLeX-DB9]

All i hear is bla, bla, bla

Don't be so sure about what you said
Nothing is impossible... i'm sure you've heard it before

[Lit]

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0714/p06s16-wome.html

Anger China or defend Uighurs? Turkey walks fine line.
Beijing urged Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan to retract his statement that China is committing "genocide" against its Muslim minority.
By Yigal Schleifer | Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor

from the July 14, 2009 edition


Istanbul - Developments in China's restive Xinjiang Province and the attacks against the minority Muslim Uighurs there may not have led to vocal protests in most of the Muslim world. But in Turkey, the events in western China have led to large protests in the streets and strong words from Turkish officials.

The comment raising the loudest outcry has been Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's accusation last week that China is committing "genocide" against the Uighurs, a statement that Beijing is now pressuring him to retract.

Experts say that taking its criticism of China too far could backfire on Ankara, which has been working to improve both its diplomatic and trade relations with Beijing.

An estimated 184 people have died in the recent violent clashes between Uighurs and ethnic Han Chinese in Urumqi, the capital of Xinjiang. Chinese officials have claimed that most of those killed have been Han.

Turkey's minister of industry and trade, Nihat Ergun, last week called for a boycott of Chinese goods, while Mr. Erdogan, speaking on television last Friday, said: "The incidents in China are, simply put, tantamount to genocide. There's no point in interpreting this otherwise."

Uighurs as 'brothers'

"There is a lot of sensitivity among the Turkish public about the Uighurs. They consider them as real brothers," says Sami Kohen, a political affairs columnist for Milliyet, a Turkish daily.

"Turks originally came from that part of Asia to Anatolia, and the language that Uighurs use is much closer to the language that Turkey speaks than others in Central Asia," he continues.

The Turkish president's official flag, for example, has 16 stars on it, representing "Turkish states" established throughout history. One of the stars commemorates the Uighur state that existed around the 8th century.

Adds Mr. Kohen: "There is quite a large Uighur community in Turkey, and they are quite strong. They have a lobby and they have been quite strong in defending their cause."

Turkey raises its global profile

Turkey has, in recent years, been working to raise its foreign policy profile and establish itself as a regional political and economic power. Turkey's president, Abdullah Gul, actually visited Urumqi as part of a recent state visit shortly before the violence broke out there. Turkey signed a reported $1.5 billion worth of trade deals during the visit.

But analysts say Ankara's criticism could lead to a rupture with Beijing.

"The Turks really have a tough decision to make, whether they keep this going or back off. This is a major test for Turkey's new foreign policy," says Bulent Aliriza, director of the Turkey Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. "This is a serious problem for the Turks from every angle."

Ankara now also needs to decide if it will grant a possible request to visit Turkey by Rebiya Kadeer, a Uighur diaspora activist based in the United States whom China has accused of being behind the violence in Xinjiang.

"All hell is going to break loose if she shows up in Turkey, especially after the comment that Erdogan made," Mr. Aliriza says.

Take it back, China says

The Chinese government now appears to be pushing back against Turkey. A Tuesday editorial in the government-controlled English-language China Daily urged Erdogan to "take back his remarks ... which constitute interference in China's internal affairs."

Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi, in a phone conversation with his Turkish counterpart, blamed the violence in Xinjiang on "three evil forces," state news agency Xinhua said, referring to "extremism, separatism, and terrorism."

For Turkey, which has had its share of domestic violence and terrorism, both from Islamic extremists and Kurdish separatists, these are not meaningless words.

[halil]

Your solidarity with the Uighurs is touching, Halil, but may I suggest you post your objections to Chinese atrocities (and associated horror pictures) here:

http://www.chinese-forums.com/

We Cypriots have got our own atrocities to deal with on the Cyprus Forum, esp. in the Cyprus Problem section.

And this particular thread is about highlighting Turkey's hypocrisy in relation to its own human rights violations while condemning those of the Chinese.

It applies to u as well ''The Cypriot'' U should not bother to write in here too . U should make your comments to above link as well .

I protest every violations against the civilians . doesn't bother who are they .

[The Cypriot]

Your solidarity with the Uighurs is touching, Halil, but may I suggest you post your objections to Chinese atrocities (and associated horror pictures) here:

http://www.chinese-forums.com/

We Cypriots have got our own atrocities to deal with on the Cyprus Forum, esp. in the Cyprus Problem section.

And this particular thread is about highlighting Turkey's hypocrisy in relation to its own human rights violations while condemning those of the Chinese.

It applies to u as well ''The Cypriot'' U should not bother to write in here too . U should make your comments to above link as well .

Why should I comment about Turkey's hypocrisy, and its human rights violations of Cypriots - including yours you 'Cyprus Turk' - on a Chinese forum rather than a Cypriot forum?

I protest every violations against the civilians . doesn't bother who are they .

Great. Let's see you write an article protesting against Turkey's violations of Cypriot civilians for Bayrak. Please post it here too, with a link to prove you had the balls to do it.

[denizaksulu]

china will kill the turks

They are doing it already.

[paliometoxo]

china will kill the turks

They are doing it already.

the turks are very ignorant calling 189 deaths a genocide and the armenians thgey killed osmehow was not?

im sorry a kind of genocide .. i wonder how president will react when china asked them to withdraw the statement... is that all turkey knows how to do start wars with countires and threaten them and demand power in any country they go and try change things? who are the turks to change the way they liv ein china and the rules?? they should go back to turkey

[runaway]

they should go back to turkey

Go back to Türkiye? They never went from Türkiye. It's their land. Turkic people living from China to Bosnia Herzegovina against Greeks in Greece and south of Cyprus

[paliometoxo]

ahh yesss they are turkish but china is their land..... they own china to.. my mistake

[denizaksulu]

china will kill the turks

They are doing it already.

the turks are very ignorant calling 189 deaths a genocide and the armenians thgey killed osmehow was not?

im sorry a kind of genocide .. i wonder how president will react when china asked them to withdraw the statement... is that all turkey knows how to do start wars with countires and threaten them and demand power in any country they go and try change things? who are the turks to change the way they liv ein china and the rules?? they should go back to turkey

I did not mention 'Genocide'. I am reading through the thread slowly. The weather and Oracle are giving me one of my seasonal headaches.

But one thing is for sure in the Xin-kiang region. The Hans are imported i to outnumber the ethnic population and trhere is a natural reaction to this.