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Postby shahmaran » Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:25 pm

boomerang wrote:and the double face bullshit is coming thick and plentuful...

--ERDOGAN: "THIS VIOLENCE MUST BE ENDED"

Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said Turkey will ask the U.N. Security Council to discuss ways to end the violence in Urumchi --the capital of the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region. "We will put the events happening in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region onto the agenda of the United Nations' Security Council," Erdogan told a meeting of the Gulf Cooperation Council, or GCC, in Istanbul. Erdogan said the violence must end and the necessary measures should be taken within the scope of human rights.



--ERDOGAN CALLS ON CHINA TO 'STOP VIOLENCE'

Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said that Turkey was following the incidents in Xinjiang with concern and regret. He said, "We consider our Uighur brothers and sisters as a bridge between Turkey and China, with which we have a good cooperation. Turkey expects the incidents, which have reached a violent level, to end."



--WE ARE FOLLOWING INCIDENTS IN XINJIANG WITH REGRET AND CONCERN, PM

ERDOGAN

Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said that his government was following the incidents taking place in Xinjiang, China, with pain and concern. We expect to see an urgent end to the incidents in Xinjiang, Erdogan stressed


http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/12036653.asp?scr=1



I have no problem with the violence ending but for turks to come out like this when they are slautering the kurds is straight out bullshit...why not end their own inhouse violence before uttering any words...

I see a similar responce to the turks as to what they got from Israel...people in glass houses should never throw stones...

All violence against people by a state should sieze immediately...you think turkey is capable of understanding this?...NO

Here is some advice erdie...better stay quiet and give the impression you look stupid rather than opening it and removing all doubt...

bloody idiots...


What have you got to say about the 35,000 Turks AND Kurds killed by the PKK since the 80's? 35,000!!!

I think you need to reconsider what you actually think you know about Turkey.
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Postby Dr J » Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:57 pm

Both of your points are totally ignorant.


Why? Because a Turk says so? lol
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Postby boomerang » Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:55 pm

shahmaran wrote:
boomerang wrote:and the double face bullshit is coming thick and plentuful...

--ERDOGAN: "THIS VIOLENCE MUST BE ENDED"

Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said Turkey will ask the U.N. Security Council to discuss ways to end the violence in Urumchi --the capital of the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region. "We will put the events happening in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region onto the agenda of the United Nations' Security Council," Erdogan told a meeting of the Gulf Cooperation Council, or GCC, in Istanbul. Erdogan said the violence must end and the necessary measures should be taken within the scope of human rights.



--ERDOGAN CALLS ON CHINA TO 'STOP VIOLENCE'

Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said that Turkey was following the incidents in Xinjiang with concern and regret. He said, "We consider our Uighur brothers and sisters as a bridge between Turkey and China, with which we have a good cooperation. Turkey expects the incidents, which have reached a violent level, to end."



--WE ARE FOLLOWING INCIDENTS IN XINJIANG WITH REGRET AND CONCERN, PM

ERDOGAN

Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said that his government was following the incidents taking place in Xinjiang, China, with pain and concern. We expect to see an urgent end to the incidents in Xinjiang, Erdogan stressed


http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/12036653.asp?scr=1



I have no problem with the violence ending but for turks to come out like this when they are slautering the kurds is straight out bullshit...why not end their own inhouse violence before uttering any words...

I see a similar responce to the turks as to what they got from Israel...people in glass houses should never throw stones...

All violence against people by a state should sieze immediately...you think turkey is capable of understanding this?...NO

Here is some advice erdie...better stay quiet and give the impression you look stupid rather than opening it and removing all doubt...

bloody idiots...


What have you got to say about the 35,000 Turks AND Kurds killed by the PKK since the 80's? 35,000!!!

I think you need to reconsider what you actually think you know about Turkey.


1...your figure is grossly overestimated....thats the total number of people in the conflict since 1980...

2...are you saying the pkk are not turkish citizens...i thought only turks lived in turkey...aren't kurds, turks?...if they are citizens then it's a civil war, a failure of the state, or if not citizens then, it's war and who is occupying whose land?

3....I gave my responce, if you care to look at the first post in pg2...
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Postby shahmaran » Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:09 am

boomerang wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
boomerang wrote:and the double face bullshit is coming thick and plentuful...

--ERDOGAN: "THIS VIOLENCE MUST BE ENDED"

Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said Turkey will ask the U.N. Security Council to discuss ways to end the violence in Urumchi --the capital of the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region. "We will put the events happening in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region onto the agenda of the United Nations' Security Council," Erdogan told a meeting of the Gulf Cooperation Council, or GCC, in Istanbul. Erdogan said the violence must end and the necessary measures should be taken within the scope of human rights.



--ERDOGAN CALLS ON CHINA TO 'STOP VIOLENCE'

Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said that Turkey was following the incidents in Xinjiang with concern and regret. He said, "We consider our Uighur brothers and sisters as a bridge between Turkey and China, with which we have a good cooperation. Turkey expects the incidents, which have reached a violent level, to end."



--WE ARE FOLLOWING INCIDENTS IN XINJIANG WITH REGRET AND CONCERN, PM

ERDOGAN

Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said that his government was following the incidents taking place in Xinjiang, China, with pain and concern. We expect to see an urgent end to the incidents in Xinjiang, Erdogan stressed


http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/12036653.asp?scr=1



I have no problem with the violence ending but for turks to come out like this when they are slautering the kurds is straight out bullshit...why not end their own inhouse violence before uttering any words...

I see a similar responce to the turks as to what they got from Israel...people in glass houses should never throw stones...

All violence against people by a state should sieze immediately...you think turkey is capable of understanding this?...NO

Here is some advice erdie...better stay quiet and give the impression you look stupid rather than opening it and removing all doubt...

bloody idiots...


What have you got to say about the 35,000 Turks AND Kurds killed by the PKK since the 80's? 35,000!!!

I think you need to reconsider what you actually think you know about Turkey.


1...your figure is grossly overestimated....thats the total number of people in the conflict since 1980...

2...are you saying the pkk are not turkish citizens...i thought only turks lived in turkey...aren't kurds, turks?...if they are citizens then it's a civil war, a failure of the state, or if not citizens then, it's war and who is occupying whose land?

3....I gave my responce, if you care to look at the first post in pg2...


Actually they have caused the death of 35,000 lives and still killing since 1980. That includes Turks and Kurds and whoever, they don't discriminate and they don't only target military, also we are talking ethnicities not citizens. Everyone can be a Turkish citizen does not mean they are Turkish as Turkey has a pretty mixed society. Even what we call "Turkish" can be separated and tied to many old clans within itself.

Also I never said it was NOT the total number. Read again. It is their attacks that is causing all the deaths.

Plus the PKK terrorists are trained outside Turkey around Kandil mountains in Northern Iraq, Iran and also used to train in Syria until Turkey pressured them to get rid of the scumbags, they then infiltrate back in to execute attacks on given targets.

I don't know why you are trying to portray them as the victims as they are only a "tool" for other forces.
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Postby ARMENIAN CYPRIOT » Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:15 am

shahmaran wrote:
boomerang wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
boomerang wrote:and the double face bullshit is coming thick and plentuful...

--ERDOGAN: "THIS VIOLENCE MUST BE ENDED"

Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said Turkey will ask the U.N. Security Council to discuss ways to end the violence in Urumchi --the capital of the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region. "We will put the events happening in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region onto the agenda of the United Nations' Security Council," Erdogan told a meeting of the Gulf Cooperation Council, or GCC, in Istanbul. Erdogan said the violence must end and the necessary measures should be taken within the scope of human rights.



--ERDOGAN CALLS ON CHINA TO 'STOP VIOLENCE'

Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said that Turkey was following the incidents in Xinjiang with concern and regret. He said, "We consider our Uighur brothers and sisters as a bridge between Turkey and China, with which we have a good cooperation. Turkey expects the incidents, which have reached a violent level, to end."



--WE ARE FOLLOWING INCIDENTS IN XINJIANG WITH REGRET AND CONCERN, PM

ERDOGAN

Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said that his government was following the incidents taking place in Xinjiang, China, with pain and concern. We expect to see an urgent end to the incidents in Xinjiang, Erdogan stressed


http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/12036653.asp?scr=1



I have no problem with the violence ending but for turks to come out like this when they are slautering the kurds is straight out bullshit...why not end their own inhouse violence before uttering any words...

I see a similar responce to the turks as to what they got from Israel...people in glass houses should never throw stones...

All violence against people by a state should sieze immediately...you think turkey is capable of understanding this?...NO

Here is some advice erdie...better stay quiet and give the impression you look stupid rather than opening it and removing all doubt...

bloody idiots...


What have you got to say about the 35,000 Turks AND Kurds killed by the PKK since the 80's? 35,000!!!

I think you need to reconsider what you actually think you know about Turkey.


1...your figure is grossly overestimated....thats the total number of people in the conflict since 1980...

2...are you saying the pkk are not turkish citizens...i thought only turks lived in turkey...aren't kurds, turks?...if they are citizens then it's a civil war, a failure of the state, or if not citizens then, it's war and who is occupying whose land?

3....I gave my responce, if you care to look at the first post in pg2...


Actually they have caused the death of 35,000 lives and still killing since 1980. That includes Turks and Kurds and whoever, they don't discriminate and they don't only target military, also we are talking ethnicities not citizens. Everyone can be a Turkish citizen does not mean they are Turkish as Turkey has a pretty mixed society. Even what we call "Turkish" can be separated and tied to many old clans within itself.

Also I never said it was NOT the total number. Read again. It is their attacks that is causing all the deaths.

Plus the PKK terrorists are trained outside Turkey around Kandil mountains in Northern Iraq, Iran and also used to train in Syria until Turkey pressured them to get rid of the scumbags, they then infiltrate back in to execute attacks on given targets.

I don't know why you are trying to portray them as the victims as they are only a "tool" for other forces.

Sha, we discussed this a while back and I remember you telling me the USA was arming them. I read something very interesting about blackwater being under investagation for this very act. PS I got the info from a Canadian news source since it has been ignored by the American press.
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Postby Nikitas » Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:12 am

Erdoghan made a statement tonight, July 11, accusing the Chinese for "genocide" over the 150 deaths in the riots.

Imagine what the killing of 5000 Cypriots in 1974 by the Turkish army should be called!!!
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:58 am

Nikitas wrote:Erdoghan made a statement tonight, July 11, accusing the Chinese for "genocide" over the 150 deaths in the riots.

Imagine what the killing of 5000 Cypriots in 1974 by the Turkish army should be called!!!

Perhaps we need to lookup the Turkish equivalent for “genocide” because it seems that all Turks and Turkish Cypriots have a serious discrepancy with the meaning of this word compared to the rest of the world… :?
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Postby AWE » Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:20 am

Nikitas wrote:Erdoghan made a statement tonight, July 11, accusing the Chinese for "genocide" over the 150 deaths in the riots.

Imagine what the killing of 5000 Cypriots in 1974 by the Turkish army should be called!!!


the full text is:

"The event taking place in China is a kind of genocide," Erdogan said, adding that "we have difficulty understanding how China's leadership... can remain a spectator in the face of these events."

http://www.france24.com/en/20090710-tur ... jing-china

This does not accuse China of Genocide but possibly the vigilantes of it pogrom might be a better word.
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Postby boomerang » Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:25 am

AWE wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Erdoghan made a statement tonight, July 11, accusing the Chinese for "genocide" over the 150 deaths in the riots.

Imagine what the killing of 5000 Cypriots in 1974 by the Turkish army should be called!!!


the full text is:

"The event taking place in China is a kind of genocide," Erdogan said, adding that "we have difficulty understanding how China's leadership... can remain a spectator in the face of these events."

http://www.france24.com/en/20090710-tur ... jing-china

This does not accuse China of Genocide but possibly the vigilantes of it pogrom might be a better word.

one wonders then how many different genocides are there... :?
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Postby AWE » Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:38 am

Boomer,

your right, pogrom, ethnic cleansing and then genocide I guess. All are unacceptable in a modern state but given that China is a veto holding UNSC member nothing will be done. Further proof that even the UN is not about international law but big power self interest.
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