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Postby boomerang » Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:21 am

and the double face bullshit is coming thick and plentuful...

--ERDOGAN: "THIS VIOLENCE MUST BE ENDED"

Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said Turkey will ask the U.N. Security Council to discuss ways to end the violence in Urumchi --the capital of the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region. "We will put the events happening in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region onto the agenda of the United Nations' Security Council," Erdogan told a meeting of the Gulf Cooperation Council, or GCC, in Istanbul. Erdogan said the violence must end and the necessary measures should be taken within the scope of human rights.



--ERDOGAN CALLS ON CHINA TO 'STOP VIOLENCE'

Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said that Turkey was following the incidents in Xinjiang with concern and regret. He said, "We consider our Uighur brothers and sisters as a bridge between Turkey and China, with which we have a good cooperation. Turkey expects the incidents, which have reached a violent level, to end."



--WE ARE FOLLOWING INCIDENTS IN XINJIANG WITH REGRET AND CONCERN, PM

ERDOGAN

Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said that his government was following the incidents taking place in Xinjiang, China, with pain and concern. We expect to see an urgent end to the incidents in Xinjiang, Erdogan stressed


http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/12036653.asp?scr=1



I have no problem with the violence ending but for turks to come out like this when they are slautering the kurds is straight out bullshit...why not end their own inhouse violence before uttering any words...

I see a similar responce to the turks as to what they got from Israel...people in glass houses should never throw stones...

All violence against people by a state should sieze immediately...you think turkey is capable of understanding this?...NO

Here is some advice erdie...better stay quiet and give the impression you look stupid rather than opening it and removing all doubt...

bloody idiots...
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Postby boomerang » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:23 pm

UN asks Turkey why it is jailing teenagers

ANKARA - An inquiry from the United Nations concerning Turkey’s courts trying stone-throwing children under age 18 in the Southeast as terrorists has heated up the debate over the country’s judicial system.

With an amendment made to the Turkish Penal Code, or TCK, in 2005, the scope of the anti-terror law expanded. Heavier punishments were brought for those who intentionally committed a crime on behalf of a terrorist organization, even if they were not members.

The children who throw stones at police or chant illegal slogans in favor of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party, or PKK, at street demonstrations, for instance, are tried for being members of a terrorist organization, according to the law. Legal experts say over 1,000 children were taken into custody within the last two years for this reason. According to the Initiative for Justice for Children, there are currently 300 such children aged between 12 and 18 who are detained in prisons.

In its letter to the Turkish Justice Ministry, the United Nations has asked a number of questions about the situation of children under age 18 who are charged under the anti-terror law, daily Sabah reported Wednesday. In addition to the number of these children and the definition of terrorist activities, questions about whether they should be judged by the civilian or military court, how their rights are protected, the number of children who were used by the terrorist organizations in conflicts, and the state’s measures to prevent this situation remain among the questions that must be answered by Aug. 4.

Legal experts, meanwhile, argue that there is no balance between the crime and its punishment. The absence of juvenile courts also leads to injustices.

"There should be a balance between punishment and crime. With the amended law, people including children are now judged like terrorists simply for throwing a stone at police in street demonstrations even though they aren’t a member of a terror organization," said lawyer Tahir Elçi of the Diyarbakır Bar Association.

Critical of 2006 amendment

Elçi is one of those who presented a report on the issue to the United Nations in its meeting in June.

He also criticized the removal of the juvenile courts with an amendment made to the anti-terror law in 2006, enabling the high criminal courts with special authorization to judge children aged between 15 and 18.

"Before 2006 the children, who are charged as part of the anti-terror law, were judged by the juvenile courts, where the prosecutors were equipped with special skills and knowledge to judge children. Now they are judged like terrorists in high criminal courts," Elçi said. "And there are no prisons in Turkey specially designed for children. The children stay with adults in the same prison."

Lawyer Nalan Erkem of the Initiative for Justice for Children said the children mentally and physically weren’t aware that their actions, such as throwing stones or shouting slogans, were against the state.

"Children can be aware that throwing a stone at police may constitute a crime but they are not capable of understanding the meaning of their action and that they are propagating a terror organization. At that age, they are not aware of the gravity of the crime," said Erkem.

"Those who fought for the PKK in the mountains could be released after a certain period of imprisonment, while children are deemed terrorists even if they attend a terror organization’s meeting that protested the price increase in bread. This is injustice," Erkem said.

She also said the children were judged in the high criminal courts without taking into consideration the other factors that led them to commit the crime. Children cannot enjoy the rights they would normally benefit from if judged in a juvenile court. The way they are judged is against the U.N. Convention on the Rights of the Child.

Ill treatment in prisons

Ethem Açıkalın, Adana branch chairman of the Human Rights Association, or İHD, meanwhile, said the applications to the İHD revealed that children faced trauma in prisons.

"Children’s families told us that their children were joyful and social before entering prison but showed symptoms of insomnia and introversion afterward. Children complain about ill treatment in prisons," he said. "Detention should be the last solution, but in Turkey it comes first. There are no children who are released before at least three months, which harms their mental well-being."

The Wednesday edition of daily Radikal also confirmed the situation. The children who were charged of political crimes in Istanbul’s Maltepe prison, where they are on hunger strike, claimed that they are beaten, isolated, called terrorists and subject to strip searches, Radikal reports.

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/domestic/12032535.asp?scr=1



here you see erdie ignoring his own bullshit and critizing others...go figure... 8)

some guarantor country huh?
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Postby yialousa1971 » Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:45 am

Turkish minister calls for China boycott over unrest
http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/World/Story/A1Story20090710-153902.html

Fri, Jul 10, 2009
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ANKARA, TURKEY - A Turkish minister called Thursday for a boycott of Chinese goods to protest at events in troubled Xinjiang region.

Prime Minister Recep Tayypi Erdogan said meanwhile that Turkey would grant a visa to exiled Uighur leader Rebiya Kadeer if she applied.

'If the country where we consume the good does not respect human values, we should reconsider our values,' Trade and Industry Minister Nihat Ergun said, quoted by Anatolia news agency.


'Consumers who buy a good must find out if the producing country respects human values or not,' Ergun said in the central city of Yozgat when asked by reporters about troubles in the Xinjiang capital, Urumqi, in which at least 156 people have been killed.

Turkey has repeatedly expressed concern about events in Turkic-speaking Xinjiang with Prime Minister Erdogan on Wednesday heightening criticism by calling the deaths 'atrocities'.

Turkey says it supports China's sovereignty over Xinjiang but retains strong cultural links with the Muslim Uighurs because of the language. Several exiled Uighurs live in Turkey where they have been supported by nationalist groups.

Well done China for kicking Turkic arse, they have the nukes so they can ignore Zio NWO. :!:
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Postby Dr J » Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:52 pm

'If the country where we consume the good does not respect human values, we should reconsider our values,' Trade and Industry Minister Nihat Ergun said, quoted by Anatolia news agency.


'Consumers who buy a good must find out if the producing country respects human values or not


That's a bit rich coming from Turkey LOL
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Postby YFred » Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:58 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:Turkish minister calls for China boycott over unrest
http://news.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne+News/World/Story/A1Story20090710-153902.html

Fri, Jul 10, 2009
AFP

ANKARA, TURKEY - A Turkish minister called Thursday for a boycott of Chinese goods to protest at events in troubled Xinjiang region.

Prime Minister Recep Tayypi Erdogan said meanwhile that Turkey would grant a visa to exiled Uighur leader Rebiya Kadeer if she applied.

'If the country where we consume the good does not respect human values, we should reconsider our values,' Trade and Industry Minister Nihat Ergun said, quoted by Anatolia news agency.


'Consumers who buy a good must find out if the producing country respects human values or not,' Ergun said in the central city of Yozgat when asked by reporters about troubles in the Xinjiang capital, Urumqi, in which at least 156 people have been killed.

Turkey has repeatedly expressed concern about events in Turkic-speaking Xinjiang with Prime Minister Erdogan on Wednesday heightening criticism by calling the deaths 'atrocities'.

Turkey says it supports China's sovereignty over Xinjiang but retains strong cultural links with the Muslim Uighurs because of the language. Several exiled Uighurs live in Turkey where they have been supported by nationalist groups.

Well done China for kicking Turkic arse, they have the nukes so they can ignore Zio NWO. :!:

Fahusan banosu gori yalusa.
How can you take pleasure from killing people just because they are turkic speaking? I would see a vet if I was you and ask them to put you out of your misery. They’ll know what to do believe me.
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Postby shahmaran » Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:08 pm

China's communism is a bit like GC human rights. Rotten and full of hypocrisy.

They are both fond of human life, rights to prosperity and fairness but neither have problems murdering innocent people en mass for their cause.

One man's happiness is another one's hell.
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Postby AWE » Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:17 pm

Dr J wrote:
'If the country where we consume the good does not respect human values, we should reconsider our values,' Trade and Industry Minister Nihat Ergun said, quoted by Anatolia news agency.


'Consumers who buy a good must find out if the producing country respects human values or not


That's a bit rich coming from Turkey LOL


Yes, China where the police can sentence people to 4 years hard labour as an administrative punishment - no defence, no judicial review, no appeal - in fact it was used last year on 2 old ladies who were protesting the demolition of their homes to make way for an Olympic venue...
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Postby Dr J » Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:27 pm

Turkey, where you can go to jail for expressing your views about society in your country.

OR where you have to have a Turkish name to be a citizen.
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Postby SoSolidCrew » Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:20 pm

I am not suprised to see that you people make fun of hundreds of deaths in China. You guys lack humanity.
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Postby shahmaran » Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:22 pm

Dr J wrote:Turkey, where you can go to jail for expressing your views about society in your country.

OR where you have to have a Turkish name to be a citizen.


Both of your points are totally ignorant.
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