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[YFred]

SENIOR AIDES OF THE TWO LEADERS ARE TO START TALKS ON SECURITY AND GUARANTEES

The two leaders will start discussions on the Security and Guarantees chapter on Thursday.

Last week, the two completed the first reading on the chapter of territory.

They will continue the meetings until the 6th of August when a break will be given to the talks.

The discussions will be resumed on the 3rd of September.

So far nothing has been agreed to!

Do you not read as to what is going on, old Chap? Let me enlighten you.
They will stat the give and take in Autumn. That's when the agreement will begin to materials.

Now who was it that was saying the Guaranty is not part of the negotiation?

Guarantees is something the GCs can never accept. Both Turkey, and Christofias know this and this is why such a solution will never be bought in front of the Cypriot people.

Talat is gone in a few months, and after December, the talks will collapse or just not progress.

Give and take is fine but so far Turkey has given nothing while we have given a lot. BBF was big compromise on our part.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24795

Re Bafidi, which planet do you live on. There has been no give by anybody. Its not happening until autumn!

[halil]

http://www.skai.gr/player/tv/?mmid=25439

Yfred ,
your comments pls for above tv document !

Sorry Halil, but its not in Cypriot, its bastardised elliniga. I don't understnad most of what is being said. Any chance of Turkish dubbing on it from Bayrak?

no .

[YFred]

http://www.skai.gr/player/tv/?mmid=25439

Yfred ,
your comments pls for above tv document !

Sorry Halil, but its not in Cypriot, its bastardised elliniga. I don't understnad most of what is being said. Any chance of Turkish dubbing on it from Bayrak?

no .

Well perhaps remove the Elliniga commentry and let us listen to the true Cypriots talking then?

[Paphitis]

SENIOR AIDES OF THE TWO LEADERS ARE TO START TALKS ON SECURITY AND GUARANTEES

The two leaders will start discussions on the Security and Guarantees chapter on Thursday.

Last week, the two completed the first reading on the chapter of territory.

They will continue the meetings until the 6th of August when a break will be given to the talks.

The discussions will be resumed on the 3rd of September.

So far nothing has been agreed to!

Do you not read as to what is going on, old Chap? Let me enlighten you.
They will stat the give and take in Autumn. That's when the agreement will begin to materials.

Now who was it that was saying the Guaranty is not part of the negotiation?

Guarantees is something the GCs can never accept. Both Turkey, and Christofias know this and this is why such a solution will never be bought in front of the Cypriot people.

Talat is gone in a few months, and after December, the talks will collapse or just not progress.

Give and take is fine but so far Turkey has given nothing while we have given a lot. BBF was big compromise on our part.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24795

Re Bafidi, which planet do you live on. There has been no give by anybody. Its not happening until autumn!

If it includes Treaty of Guarantees from Turkey, we will be going no where. Christofias will never agree to anything.

[boomerang]

It is true ... from both side of the Cyprus will decide . Like what we said at latest AP. Both sides decide .
Without Turkeys guarantees i am hundred percent sure there will be huge percentage OHI from Turkish Cypriots . I always prefair to tell public opinion in here . I bet u are saying same thing about your public opinion too ......

it looks 1+1 = 0 ...................

There will be nothing to decide on since Turkey insists on guarantees. We will just have to wait for your side to withdraw from the negotiations shortly after December.

The problem you have Halil is that the world has already heard our no. They also know the reasons behind that no. No one is going to blame the GC's for saying no to something that was refused in the past.

The TC's on the other hand have been telling the entire world while Tpap was President that they are doing evertyhing possible for a solution and that they are willing to compromise.

Who do you think will most of the international pressure be on then?

Yes DT,
world knows why u said no and why Tc's said yes . From here both sides needs some kind of quide to close the gap between themself . both sides has different kind of worries ,concerns , fears what else i can say ?

you are right they are doing their bests to find solution . There must be will for compromise ..... not to think all the time i must be the winner . They might agreed on win ....win basis DT .... how they can adopt the public is very important . we are not living at moon mate .... u know what u and your public opinion thinks .This is the hardest part of it .... to many question marks in my head . HOW ....HOW ....Hooowwwwwwww ??????

Treaty of Guarantee from Turkey are not acceptable to us. We cannot compromise on this as we are an independent country and a member of the EU.

Our guarantee is from the EU Charter.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24795

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24816

We will NEVER accept intervention rights from Turkey...

Is this the same EU Charter that includes extraordinary rendition. You can have that down south where human rights are not so valued particularly for TCs and other Non-GCs. In the north we are too civilised for that sort of behaviour, old chap.

Are you aware how many torture planes have gone through Larnaka airport? and are you also aware how many torture prisons there are in the EU.

So if you don’t mind the TCs will stick to the current protector till such times as they can have confidence and then perhaps they can be persuaded to switch.

hey knucklehead your refund is waiting for you here...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24712

Assikdir len.

I take it no refund?... knucklehead...

[YFred]

Assikdir Bumbollaki.

[boomerang]

Assikdir Bumbollaki.

beers on me knucklehead...in Limasspl...


ps...every forum needs a clown, knucklehead...thanks for the live entertainment... ...cheers...

[jetstar]

Surely neither Greece or Turkey have any Intervention rights. only Cypriots from both communities should decide which is best for them.

[boomerang]

Surely neither Greece or Turkey have any Intervention rights. only Cypriots from both communities should decide which is best for them.

it was suppose to be a so;ution to cyprus by cypriots but now talat is signing a new tune...just to mud the waters...well what's new...he was full shit then and still full of shit...somebody is puling the strings making him a fool yet once again...the man is a born natural clown...

The reality is, the problem is between cyprus and turkey...coz the tcs have no back bone...turkey makes sure of that...

[Oracle]

Surely neither Greece or Turkey have any Intervention rights. only Cypriots from both communities should decide which is best for them.

Greece is NOT making any demands for having intervention rights/guarantorship ... BUT Turkey does make such demands. Maybe even the UK since they still claim the Bases.