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PRESIDENT TALAT SAYS SOLUTION NOT POSSIBLE

Postby halil » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:06 pm

PRESIDENT TALAT SAYS SOLUTION NOT POSSIBLE WITHOUT INTERNATIONAL ARBITRATION

The President of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus Mehmet Ali Talat has expressed the view that a settling the Cyprus Problem will not be possible without arbitration or international mediation.

In an interview to the Greek Cypriot Simirini newspaper, President Mehmet Ali Talat said that the continuation of Turkey’s effective guarantee was ‘essential’ and could not be abandoned.

Expressing the hope that the give-and-take process will be completed by the end of 2009 leading to the emergence of a new solution plan, the President pointed out that the efforts of the two sides alone were not enough to reach a settlement and that international arbitration was necessary.

“The leader of the Greek Cypriot Administration Demetris and I completely differ on this issue” the paper quoted President Talat.

Explaining that the creation of a new partnership state does not mean the abolishment of the so-called Republic of Cyprus or the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, the President said that any new partnership to be created would require contributions from both “administrations”.

President Mehmet Ali Talat also said they did not expect further progress on the issue of territory as it had been agreed from the very beginning that no maps would have been brought to the table.

“We thought it would not be right to bring maps to the table before an agreement was reached. Naturally, the moment we believe we are close to an agreement we shall bring maps to the table” he added.

Touching upon the Orams Case, President Mehmet Ali Talat warned that failure to solve the Cyprus Problem before the British Court gave its final verdict on the case would create serious problems for the negotiations.

Explaining that an outcome in favor of the Greek Cypriot plaintiff would create the feeling that all Greek Cypriots should return to their former properties, Talat said such a development would harden the Greek Cypriot Side’s stance, tying the Turkish Cypriot Side’s hands at the negotiating table.
http://www.brtk.cc/index.php/lang/en/cat/2/news/51710
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Postby Jerry » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:21 pm

I am amazed, it looks like Talat has thrown in the towel. IF the Cyprus problem is to be decided by genuine arbitration, which presumably means that the UN Charter and International Law will be applied, then it looks like we will have a solution that is much fairer than the Annan Plan.

It could be good news for Cypriots and bad news for everyone else. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:31 pm

Jerry wrote:I am amazed, it looks like Talat has thrown in the towel. IF the Cyprus problem is to be decided by genuine arbitration, which presumably means that the UN Charter and International Law will be applied, then it looks like we will have a solution that is much fairer than the Annan Plan.

It could be good news for Cypriots and bad news for everyone else. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Wasnt it a UN plan you guys rejected before?
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Postby Jerry » Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:35 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Jerry wrote:I am amazed, it looks like Talat has thrown in the towel. IF the Cyprus problem is to be decided by genuine arbitration, which presumably means that the UN Charter and International Law will be applied, then it looks like we will have a solution that is much fairer than the Annan Plan.

It could be good news for Cypriots and bad news for everyone else. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Wasnt it a UN plan you guys rejected before?


Read what I wrote very slowly, read and study the UN Charter, look up the word arbitration!
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:18 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Jerry wrote:I am amazed, it looks like Talat has thrown in the towel. IF the Cyprus problem is to be decided by genuine arbitration, which presumably means that the UN Charter and International Law will be applied, then it looks like we will have a solution that is much fairer than the Annan Plan.

It could be good news for Cypriots and bad news for everyone else. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Wasnt it a UN plan you guys rejected before?


No my dear, it wasn't a UN plan we rejected; it was a Kofi Annan plan! A UN plan, to be regarded as such, should first have to be endorsed and adopted by either the UN Security Council or the General Assembly in the form of a resolution. Such a thing never occurred and therefore no one has the right to call it a "UN plan." Annan plan was only what its name calls it, a plan prepared by Kofi Annan and his associates, under their mandate to help the two sides reach a solution. It is not binding, that is why upon rejection it was meant to become null and void and not to constitute a legal precedent, nor was it adopted by the UN. What were adopted by the UN were only Kofi Annan's mediating efforts, and not whatever their final conclusion would have been, should any of the two sides did not agree with it. The same holds true for the EU, which never adopted the Annan plan, but only said that if the two sides agree to it and accept it, then the EU will also accept and facilitate it. I suggest it is about time your side stops trying to mislead the world, because those that matter, do know what the truth is!
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:29 pm

Jerry wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Jerry wrote:I am amazed, it looks like Talat has thrown in the towel. IF the Cyprus problem is to be decided by genuine arbitration, which presumably means that the UN Charter and International Law will be applied, then it looks like we will have a solution that is much fairer than the Annan Plan.

It could be good news for Cypriots and bad news for everyone else. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Wasnt it a UN plan you guys rejected before?


Read what I wrote very slowly, read and study the UN Charter, look up the word arbitration!

:lol:
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Postby humanist » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:49 pm

well at least is good to see that Talat feels comfortable to address the one and only President of Cyprus by his first name Demetris ;)
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:18 pm

Kifeas wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Jerry wrote:I am amazed, it looks like Talat has thrown in the towel. IF the Cyprus problem is to be decided by genuine arbitration, which presumably means that the UN Charter and International Law will be applied, then it looks like we will have a solution that is much fairer than the Annan Plan.

It could be good news for Cypriots and bad news for everyone else. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Wasnt it a UN plan you guys rejected before?


No my dear, it wasn't a UN plan we rejected; it was a Kofi Annan plan! A UN plan, to be regarded as such, should first have to be endorsed and adopted by either the UN Security Council or the General Assembly in the form of a resolution. Such a thing never occurred and therefore no one has the right to call it a "UN plan." Annan plan was only what its name calls it, a plan prepared by Kofi Annan and his associates, under their mandate to help the two sides reach a solution. It is not binding, that is why upon rejection it was meant to become null and void and not to constitute a legal precedent, nor was it adopted by the UN. What were adopted by the UN were only Kofi Annan's mediating efforts, and not whatever their final conclusion would have been, should any of the two sides did not agree with it. The same holds true for the EU, which never adopted the Annan plan, but only said that if the two sides agree to it and accept it, then the EU will also accept and facilitate it. I suggest it is about time your side stops trying to mislead the world, because those that matter, do know what the truth is!


So what you are saying is Kofi was not part of the UN and neither the UN EU or USA supported such a plan and that it was undemocratic??? You seem very confused.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:22 pm

Jerry wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Jerry wrote:I am amazed, it looks like Talat has thrown in the towel. IF the Cyprus problem is to be decided by genuine arbitration, which presumably means that the UN Charter and International Law will be applied, then it looks like we will have a solution that is much fairer than the Annan Plan.

It could be good news for Cypriots and bad news for everyone else. :lol: :lol: :lol:



Wasnt it a UN plan you guys rejected before?


Read what I wrote very slowly, read and study the UN Charter, look up the word arbitration!


So you are saying none of those ingridients were in the AP? The UN EU say otherwise....do you think they will admit having backed an undemocratic plan on your say so..you sound very naive close on stupid.
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:27 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Jerry wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Jerry wrote:I am amazed, it looks like Talat has thrown in the towel. IF the Cyprus problem is to be decided by genuine arbitration, which presumably means that the UN Charter and International Law will be applied, then it looks like we will have a solution that is much fairer than the Annan Plan.

It could be good news for Cypriots and bad news for everyone else. :lol: :lol: :lol:



Wasnt it a UN plan you guys rejected before?


Read what I wrote very slowly, read and study the UN Charter, look up the word arbitration!


So you are saying none of those ingridients were in the AP? The UN EU say otherwise....do you think they will admit having backed an undemocratic plan on your say so..you sound very naive close on stupid.


Then don't worry too much about it VP, because if you believe all the "ingredients" were in the AP as to what UN Charter and EU Principles call for, then the same characters will insist that they will be in the next plan also, which means you will vote YES again.!:lol:

OK, seriously now. I have stated this before few weeks ago, that Talat and Turkey wants to bring in outsiders into the negotiations to develop a plan that will conform to UN Charter and EU Principles and it’s not because they want to, but because they have to, since both Turkey and Talat can't be seen giving in to the RoC demands ( International demands really) on a plan based on True Federation, True Democracy, Human Rights and International laws, therefore, they will let others do it for them and then turn around and tell the "Turks of Cyprus" and the Generals that this plan is the work of the International community, just as AP was, therefore we have no choice but to accept it in order to have a settlement, just because both Talat and Turkey do not have much time left to be screwing around. Time is not on their side.!
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