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Why dont GCs believe anything TCs say?

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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:50 pm

Sotos wrote:Some TCs we believe. It is the thieves like you that we do not believe. Just like all other criminals you are lying because you want to excuse the crimes for which you have been convicted. If you accepted the truth that would mean that you would have to give back what you stole from us.


You can have back whats yours after you wash the blood from your hands and come clean about your share of the blame for the creation of the divide and its continuation dont forget you are the ones seen by the world rejecting the last attempt to solve the Cyprus problem.
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Postby Dr J » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:21 am

This is an interesting little gem from the 'Embargoed' website...

Firstly, you must understand that Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots have a different language, religion, and culture and there has never been a single Cypriot identity.


http://www.embargoed.org/history.php

If thats the case, thats like virtually admitting that Turkish Cypriots aren't Cypriot isnt it? If you have a different culture to the Greek Cypriots (who basically have the Cypriot culture), then what culture do you have? Anatolian?
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Postby humanist » Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:00 am

I think each GC is as different as each TC is, the reason I personally don't trust much of what some TC's say is that you are so focussed on supporting Turkey than you are supporting the whole Island of Cyprus which is your home. The reality is neither Turkey or anyone other nation in the world except perhaps Pakistan support an independent trnc. Perhaps they realisie that neither the geographical or population domains of the Island can support any form of international trade. To this end there may appear to be an ongoing dependency on Turkey.

Secondly you vouch more for Turkish rights than rights afforded equally to all Cypriots as european citizens. In doing so damaging your own advancement.

Lastly you have invited a large nation to invade our country take our lands and properties keep us away from our nation and that's why we don't trust you ..... well those are at least my reasons
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Postby Sotos » Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:46 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Sotos wrote:Some TCs we believe. It is the thieves like you that we do not believe. Just like all other criminals you are lying because you want to excuse the crimes for which you have been convicted. If you accepted the truth that would mean that you would have to give back what you stole from us.


You can have back whats yours after you wash the blood from your hands and come clean about your share of the blame for the creation of the divide and its continuation dont forget you are the ones seen by the world rejecting the last attempt to solve the Cyprus problem.


You are the butchers of East Mediterranean. Since you came here you killed at 30.000 Cypriots and you committed numerous genocides against many other people. And then you talk about blood in our hands because we fought for democracy and freedom of Cyprus from foreign invaders? :roll: We accept nothing less than the unconditional respect of our human rights, the freedom of Cyprus from the Turks and a 100% democracy.
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Postby wyoming cowboy » Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:59 am

After having conversations with true Turkish cypriots, iam convinced that the commonalities of Gc's and Tc's are abundant..if we take away the minority of nationalist from both sides there are no problems. Having lived on cyprus pre 74 and seeing the Republic of Cyprus today, the only thing the Gc side is concerned about is security. Security in that Turkey's hand will not be included in the future of Cyprus.
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Postby miltiades » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:11 am

""""""Firstly, you must understand that Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots have a different language, religion, and culture and there has never been a single Cypriot identity. """
CYPRIOTS EXISTED FOR MORE THAN 10 THOUSAND YEARS !!! This nonsense of a badly prepared propaganda attempt denies the existence of Cypriots. Take a look at the Roman times and you will see plenty of mentions of Cypriots.
As for the following nonsense ie the G/C and T/Cs !!!! There was not a T/C community prior to the invasion of the island by the Ottomans. In reality the Turkish propaganda is amateurish , there are many such stupid sites on the net all run and administered by amateurs who consider the entire world to be as thick as they are. The embargoes continues because the occupation continues .
Take a look at these nonsense "

"The Ottoman Empire conquered the island in 1571. The Turkish and Greek Cypriots, who were the two main ethnically distinct communities on the island, both flourished independently under Ottoman rule.
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Re: Why dont GCs believe anything TCs say?

Postby Sega » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:15 am

Viewpoint wrote:Whats the problem? do they see TCs as constant and persistant liars?



In 40 years computers came into light, DVD were released, cars were made more economical, houses are build to higher standard, mobile phones were made, GPS's and now we hold a new era of were internet will mix with our television sets and will eventually be integrated into our houses. Some things which not so long ago, seem impossible. So how can the TC and GC, who are such alike not get on, well here is your answer...

This split between Cyprus was not due to Turkish Cypriot , or Greek Cypriots citizens. It was mainly due to the greater powers brainwashing people into believing or thinking a certain way via influences, until chaos broke out, resulting in those greater powers getting themselves involved one way or another in the country affairs which happen to benefit it directly or indirectly, either through money, geographic power (bases) and so forth.

Obviously Cyprus is not alone, if you look at all troubled nations you will see this formula holds ground. Either for money, power, or some form of benefit war, is held. Many at the expense of the nationals.

So for somebody to even suggest I take nothing the TC say as serious is an insult to my intelligence, as you are implying that I do not know how the world is working and that I too, am naive and weak into believing that the fate of one's country lies in the nationals it's self, when in-fact it has many factors, most of which are not told to the people.
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Re: Why dont GCs believe anything TCs say?

Postby kafenes » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:45 am

Viewpoint wrote:Whats the problem? do they see TCs as constant and persistant liars?


My personal opinion: Firstly, my answer to your question is NO, I don't think all TCs are liars.
For you to believe that, is proof that you think you represent the whole of the TC community. If someone doesn't believe you doesn't mean they don't believe any TC.
Some time ago you posted a list of mosques that you claimed were in ruins in the free areas of ROC (without you even seeing them personally). I decided to take a camera and visited half of these mosques on the list and they were all standing there and in very good shape. Since that day I have lost all trust and confidence in what you say. It is not your fault but you are deeply psychologically disturbed and even more, deeply brainwashed. You really need some serious professional help. IMO.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:54 am

Viewpoint outrageously posted a disgusting photograph once, of decapitated decaying bodies.

He tried to claim they were TCs beheaded by GCs ... as well as suggesting that GCs ate TC babies at some point.

He kept changing his story until iceman pointed out the falsity of his claims.

Seems to me, it is Viewpoint who is finally getting the message that his reputation is built on being a liar ....
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Postby DT. » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:00 am

Oracle wrote:Viewpoint outrageously posted a disgusting photograph once, of decapitated decaying bodies.

He tried to claim they were TCs beheaded by GCs ... as well as suggesting that GCs ate TC babies at some point.

He kept changing his story until iceman pointed out the falsity of his claims.

Seems to me, it is Viewpoint who is finally getting the message that his reputation is built on being a liar ....


Who was it that posted recently TC's gathered in a "GC concentration camp" only for us to find out that it was a bunch of TC's in the British bases waiting to be sent to the north. :roll:
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