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[kurupetos]

Even a Disneyland ID is more official than a "trnc" one:

Now be honest, would I be able to cross the green line with that ID?

Of course! I don't do honest, sorry!

[The Cypriot]

My dear ... that does not represent a country; the allegiance is to the historical tradition of the church.

But it's also an important symbol of a previous ruler of Cyprus. How can we be sure there isn't a sinister political motive, trying to enter the political arena?

Whereas that star and crescent of Halil's has a sinister political motive (one which is trying to enter the political arena by illegal means!)

But it's also an important symbol of a previous ruler of Cyprus. How can we be sure this isn't an innocent historical tradition?

Surely, we must be consistent here, otherwise we tie ourselves in knots.

BTW "I'm Cypriot"

[halil]

"I'm Cypriot"

No u are not ................. u are

Please don't tell me what I am, Halil, OK?

show me your ID card ......

Cypriot IDs only indicate Cypriot as nationality. No mention of Hellenic anywhere.

So that proves that we are just Cypriot!

not all them says ........ your one has a expiry date on it . after the new settlement i will be in interior minister office i will not renew your one .

[Oracle]

My dear ... that does not represent a country; the allegiance is to the historical tradition of the church.

But it's also an important symbol of a previous ruler of Cyprus. How can we be sure there isn't a sinister political motive, trying to enter the political arena?

Whereas that star and crescent of Halil's has a sinister political motive (one which is trying to enter the political arena by illegal means!)

But it's also an important symbol of a previous ruler of Cyprus. How can we be sure this isn't an innocent historical tradition?

Surely, we must be consistent here, otherwise we tie ourselves in knots.

BTW "I'm Cypriot"

Cypriot, acting dense even for the sake of discourse does not become you.

There are many previous symbols with attached historical significance still flying around, in context. That is irrelevant to our discussion about halil's star and crescent symbol being used with one (illegal) clear intent, motives presented and even "accomplished". Anyone swearing allegiance to such a symbol representing stealing land from Cypriots, preventing the legitimate government with the legitimate flag from exercising their democratic rights over parts of the island ... should be thrown off Cyprus.

If the double-headed eagle were to be flown over a Mosque, that would be wrong ... But it never is! It is the rightful symbol of a legitimate authority. It is not a political but a pious symbol, and since we have to tolerate religion, the Church is doing nothing wrong by flying the symbol.

You have to look at individual cases and there is no 'ONE rule fits all symbols' ... Symbols are about context and meaning. For example; the red cross can't fly in Muslim countries, even on humanitarian missions etc etc etc

[halil]

RE KARAGIOZI Halil,

Look! You posted this last year!




It looks familiar, doesn't it? It's your pseudo-ID!


ORIGIN: TURK (not even turkish cypriot!!!)

first of all re hacivatis aboveone is travelling document . Before 1974 all the ID cards in Cyprus was saying origins:Greek or Turk .

u missed this one .Nationalty says Kıbrıs Cumhuriyeti

its mean republic of Cyprus .

[YFred]

RE KARAGIOZI Halil,

Look! You posted this last year!




It looks familiar, doesn't it? It's your pseudo-ID!


ORIGIN: TURK (not even turkish cypriot!!!)

first of all re hacivatis aboveone is travelling document . Before 1974 all the ID cards in Cyprus was saying origins:Greek or Turk .

u missed this one .Nationalty says Kıbrıs Cumhuriyeti

its mean republic of Cyprus .

Halil no, you are wrong. He is not Hacivatis, he is Karagozzis, the stupid one, or was Hacivatis more stupid?

[paliometoxo]

"I'm Cypriot"

No u are not ................. u are

Please don't tell me what I am, Halil, OK?

show me your ID card ......

Cypriot IDs only indicate Cypriot as nationality. No mention of Hellenic anywhere.

So that proves that we are just Cypriot!

not all them says ........ your one has a expiry date on it . after the new settlement i will be in interior minister office i will not renew your one .

i got my tautotita ( id card ) early and it does nto have an expiery date on it....

but its been in the wash a few times and i need to replace it

[halil]

RE KARAGIOZI Halil,

Look! You posted this last year!




It looks familiar, doesn't it? It's your pseudo-ID!


ORIGIN: TURK (not even turkish cypriot!!!)

first of all re hacivatis aboveone is travelling document . Before 1974 all the ID cards in Cyprus was saying origins:Greek or Turk .

u missed this one .Nationalty says Kıbrıs Cumhuriyeti

its mean republic of Cyprus .

Halil no, you are wrong. He is not Hacivatis, he is Karagozzis, the stupid one, or was Hacivatis more stupid?

YFred ,
these guys like mustrabtion all the times . he thinks he is very cleaver which he is not at all . when u see your self dev aynasında that time your problems starts.I don't know how to put in English .

2-3 weeks ago we went to land register office in south Nicosia to get some information about properties and lands in Paphos are . we gave our TRNC ID's copies as well .and it was accepted to get information . Let him to talk .

[paliometoxo]

...
mine





as you see mine has no expiery date which is good it means a permenant passport to anywhere in the eu without having to keep going and re newing it

[denizaksulu]

Those showing national allegiance to a "Star and Crescent" should be thrown off Cyprus ...

Why? It's a symbol of Byzantium, an empire which I know you're still in love with.

Emblem
Byzantium first produced coins with the crescent and star symbol in the 4th century BC. According to legend, this was to honour the moon-goddess Hecate, who the inhabitants believed had saved the city from attack by Philip II of Macedon in 340-339 BC... Byzantium would then also be the first attested nation or empire to use the combination of the crescent moon and star together as an emblem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantium

Thank you dear; semiotics is my passion. But as I said, those showing "National allegiance" to such a symbol should be thrown off Cyprus.... I have no problem with it for most other reasons, just as anyone can speak Turkish in Cyprus, but it should not be the Official language ...

A time and place for everything ....

Did Paphitis' Passport have some writing resembling Turkish on it?

...and on an official document?