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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:27 pm

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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:28 pm

miltiades wrote:Find out out who Maras is , google it.


""""Maras is an independent company specialising in supplying services to the residential lettings industry. If you are an applicant, letting agent or landlord """"

VP dont be bloody ridiculous , the name of this town is recorded and know worldwide , in the shipping world as well as the political world as VARASHIA.
You can , if you like call it Boloucks , but the correfct and only name is that by which the town has been know for ages .


For us its Maraş and will be as long as we see fit, if we ever agree a solution then these names can come out in the wash but seeing you currently have Turkish as an official language in your constitiution we will call it by its Turkish name which is Maraş.
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Postby Oracle » Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:32 pm

denizaksulu wrote: ... You are aware that settlers give new names to areas they settle in..


Do tell us when illegal Settlers last took over Sovereign territory and renamed it ?
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:32 pm

The Cypriot wrote:Are you're asking me, to accept the systematic eradication of Cypriot names and culture and history in the part of the island controlled by Turkey's military - to any Cypriot patriot, a provocative act of cultural imperialism - then I refuse.



I ask you of no such thing. I am happy with the names as of 1960. I have nothing against Cypriot names. If you care to study my avatar, I do not use the Turkish name but the Cyprot name. I do not even use the Turkicised version of the Cypriot name.

Anglissidhes =Cypriot

Anglisiya = Turkicised

Aksu = Turkish
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:38 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote: ... You are aware that settlers give new names to areas they settle in..


Do tell us when illegal Settlers last took over Sovereign territory and renamed it ?


Did I say anything about illegal settlers? As far as I am concerned they can go back from where they came from.
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Postby The Cypriot » Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:39 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:Are you're asking me, to accept the systematic eradication of Cypriot names and culture and history in the part of the island controlled by Turkey's military - to any Cypriot patriot, a provocative act of cultural imperialism - then I refuse.



I ask you of no such thing. I am happy with the names as of 1960. I have nothing against Cypriot names. If you care to study my avatar, I do not use the Turkish name but the Cyprot name. I do not even use the Turkicised version of the Cypriot name.

Anglissidhes =Cypriot

Anglisiya = Turkicised

Aksu = Turkish


Thanks. I think it's respectful, when talking to Cypriots about Cypriot places, to use the Cypriot names. If I was talking to Bill about England's capital city I wouldn't call it Londino....

And if I was talking to Bill about areas in north London I wouldn't call them Captain Town, Goongri and Fishbury Park, despite the large number of Cypriots that have settled there legitimately.
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Postby Oracle » Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:44 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
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denizaksulu wrote: ... You are aware that settlers give new names to areas they settle in..


Do tell us when illegal Settlers last took over Sovereign territory and renamed it ?


Did I say anything about illegal settlers? As far as I am concerned they can go back from where they came from.


So why are you justifying the renaming of places in Cyprus by illegal settlers?
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:08 pm

Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote: ... You are aware that settlers give new names to areas they settle in..


Do tell us when illegal Settlers last took over Sovereign territory and renamed it ?


Did I say anything about illegal settlers? As far as I am concerned they can go back from where they came from.


So why are you justifying the renaming of places in Cyprus by illegal settlers?



I said it was the 'done thing', I did not or do not justify any name changes in Cyprus. I dont know what gave you that idea agapi mou!!
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Postby The Cypriot » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:15 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote: ... You are aware that settlers give new names to areas they settle in..


Do tell us when illegal Settlers last took over Sovereign territory and renamed it ?


Did I say anything about illegal settlers? As far as I am concerned they can go back from where they came from.


So why are you justifying the renaming of places in Cyprus by illegal settlers?



I said it was the 'done thing', I did not or do not justify any name changes in Cyprus. I dont know what gave you that idea agapi mou!!


I think Viewpoint does it simply to wind Cypriots up. He seems to delight in this for some reason. He seems to feed off the hurt he causes.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:28 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote: ... You are aware that settlers give new names to areas they settle in..


Do tell us when illegal Settlers last took over Sovereign territory and renamed it ?


Did I say anything about illegal settlers? As far as I am concerned they can go back from where they came from.


So why are you justifying the renaming of places in Cyprus by illegal settlers?



I said it was the 'done thing', I did not or do not justify any name changes in Cyprus. I dont know what gave you that idea agapi mou!!


I think Viewpoint does it simply to wind Cypriots up. He seems to delight in this for some reason. He seems to feed off the hurt he causes.


May be so, but I am 63 years old and since my childhood Varosia was always known as Marash to the Turkish Cypriots. Assuming VP is younger than me, he would not be familiar with the original Greek Cypriot nomenclature. On a similar vein, I know not any new names in the north. If I pass through Trikomo in search of some relatives I have to wonder what the new name is. My villagers now reside in Ay. Sergios (nr. Famagusta) or should I say Ammochostos. They still call it Ay Sergi. All peope are different.

At the moment I am rying to find out the oldest reference to the name Marash for Varoshia. I will find out tomorrow at work.
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