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[Viewpoint]

turkish army is not making a solution exactly easy.....

But they will go once we agree a solution.

[The Cypriot]

The continued mindset of the majority of GCs confrims that they are revenge seeking, no relaxation of isolation and a continued you will be a minority in a united Cyprus are to 2 signs that we have to be extra careful in the safeguards and guarantees which are necessary to combat this GC mindset. You want Turkey to withdraw so you will have the upper hand militairly...once Turkey departs they can never again intervene in a EU country and you know this, this is just another reason why you GCs are revenge seeking to push us into a corner where we can no longer defend ourselves nor do you want any deterrant, how do you think that makes us feel? exposed and vunerable our worst nightmare.

VP please can you explain this apparent contradiction.

If Turkey's army cannot intervene after withdrawal then what sort of deterrant will having Turkey's continued guarantee in Cyprus be?

Surely it's in the interests of all Cypriots to establish security arrangements that are not only acceptable but also workable in an EU country.

Exactly thats why I am saying the Turkish army cannot depart until we find a solution and her role is agreed upon.

But you already agree that the army can have no role as a deterrent in an EU country. So it's agreed.

[Viewpoint]

The continued mindset of the majority of GCs confrims that they are revenge seeking, no relaxation of isolation and a continued you will be a minority in a united Cyprus are to 2 signs that we have to be extra careful in the safeguards and guarantees which are necessary to combat this GC mindset. You want Turkey to withdraw so you will have the upper hand militairly...once Turkey departs they can never again intervene in a EU country and you know this, this is just another reason why you GCs are revenge seeking to push us into a corner where we can no longer defend ourselves nor do you want any deterrant, how do you think that makes us feel? exposed and vunerable our worst nightmare.

VP please can you explain this apparent contradiction.

If Turkey's army cannot intervene after withdrawal then what sort of deterrant will having Turkey's continued guarantee in Cyprus be?

Surely it's in the interests of all Cypriots to establish security arrangements that are not only acceptable but also workable in an EU country.

Exactly thats why I am saying the Turkish army cannot depart until we find a solution and her role is agreed upon.

But you already agree that the army can have no role as a deterrent in an EU country. So it's agreed.

Where did I say that? what I said was the TA cannot just up sticks and leave with a comprehensive solution...without whcih she will never be able to come back. In a solution her role will be defined and agreed upon.

[The Cypriot]

The continued mindset of the majority of GCs confrims that they are revenge seeking, no relaxation of isolation and a continued you will be a minority in a united Cyprus are to 2 signs that we have to be extra careful in the safeguards and guarantees which are necessary to combat this GC mindset. You want Turkey to withdraw so you will have the upper hand militairly...once Turkey departs they can never again intervene in a EU country and you know this, this is just another reason why you GCs are revenge seeking to push us into a corner where we can no longer defend ourselves nor do you want any deterrant, how do you think that makes us feel? exposed and vunerable our worst nightmare.

VP please can you explain this apparent contradiction.

If Turkey's army cannot intervene after withdrawal then what sort of deterrant will having Turkey's continued guarantee in Cyprus be?

Surely it's in the interests of all Cypriots to establish security arrangements that are not only acceptable but also workable in an EU country.

Exactly thats why I am saying the Turkish army cannot depart until we find a solution and her role is agreed upon.

But you already agree that the army can have no role as a deterrent in an EU country. So it's agreed.

Where did I say that?

Jesus. You're just making this up as you go along aren't you? Look above... see red.

what I said was the TA cannot just up sticks and leave with a comprehensive solution

Which cannot include her intervening in an EU country which is what you said above.

without whcih she will never be able to come back.

But she cannot come back. She cannot intervene in an EU country. Other security arrangements need to be established as part of a comprehensive solution.

In a solution her role will be defined and agreed upon.

Turkey's army's role, after a solution, after it's gone, is finished for good. There is nothing to be agreed. You've already agreed. (SEE RED).

[Viewpoint]

I did not say that, you are twisting my words,obviously not able to comprehend what is put before you, Im clearly stating that if Turkey leaves without a solution she can never come back and thats exactly what you want (another GC revenge seeking demand) and why you are playing the you said this game. Therefor I will repeat again in the hope that you understand we need a comrehensive solution that will detail Turkeys role as guarantor, without which the TCs will not unite.

[The Cypriot]

How can I twist your words? They're there, in bold, in red.

once Turkey departs they can never again intervene in a EU country

I give up and let others decide.

[Viewpoint]

How can I twist your words? They're there, in bold, in red.

once Turkey departs they can never again intervene in a EU country

I give up and let others decide.

Without a solution....I have clarified it for you time and time again why are you being so stupid?

[miltiades]

The vengeance seeking G/Cs are resting in peace . Someone mentioned that only the older generation would somehow feel that vengeance is appropriate , on the contrary the older generation who lived through both the peaceful era and the conflict era would want nothing more than to bury the hatchet and live peacefuly on the island of Cyprus. No older generation Cypriot would want to put his children and grandchildren through the horrible conflict days that they went through. It is the young indoctrinated hot heads that are the problem on both sides of the divide , the young who deny Cyprus as their true homeland and look elsewhere.
Turkey along with Greece are the cause of our troubles . Greece , albeit under the Junta , orchestrated the military coup against Makarios , Turkey saw that as her opportunity to achieve what had been planned , the partition of the island. Turkey continues to this day , in total self denial , to occupy a part of Cyprus while audaciously promotes the ludicrous assumption that there exists a separate state , one that the entire world refuses to recognise as such , while in the meantime contrary to all international conventions continues her policy of Turkifying a part of Cyprus , eliminating the natives and installing her own citizens to occupy lands that for generations were lived on by the indigenous Cypriots both G/Cs and T/Cs.

Turkey's insistence in retaining guarantor status will never be accepted by the RoC. Moderates such as my self oppose such action along with most if not not all of the Cypriot people. Turkey must see that and act accordingly if she genuinely aspires for peace and stability in Cyprus.

The future of Cyprus is bright , united or not the democratic and free part of the island will prosper and progress in every field , the European membership has put the seal of approval on the legitimate government of Cyprus , regardless of the pathetic sounding noises by Turkey.
As a united island the sky is the limit , peace , stability financial benefits and above all the opportunity for all Cypriots to thrive and better them selves and improve the prospects of the new generation.
I make no distinction whatsoever between the G/Cs and the T/Cs , both are my compatriots and both should equally benefit in a united Cyprus , where I make a clear distinction is when it comes to Cypriots denying their true homeland and aligning themselves to the same foreign countries that were in the first place responsible for dividing our people and causing the seeds of hatred to expand and grow uncontrollably.

[Floda]

where I make a clear distinction is when it comes to Cypriots denying their true homeland and aligning themselves to the same foreign countries that were in the first place responsible for dividing our people and causing the seeds of hatred to expand and grow uncontrollably.

Unbelievable !, that YOU of all people should pen those words.

[miltiades]

where I make a clear distinction is when it comes to Cypriots denying their true homeland and aligning themselves to the same foreign countries that were in the first place responsible for dividing our people and causing the seeds of hatred to expand and grow uncontrollably.

Unbelievable !, that YOU of all people should pen those words.

I propose a new thread where the likes of you should post so that " na min anakatonese mestarhidia tous anthropus "
I suggest we name this thread and all who post in it the STUPUID THREAD, so clear off malaka.