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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jul 11, 2009 5:59 pm

miltiades wrote:
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Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:...a GC dominated island with no strict political bouderies will allow revenge seeking GCs discriminate us at every turn until we capitulate to their demands of becoming a minority privilidge to live off their crumbs.

You’re awfully concerned about “revenge seeking”

What on earth have your people done to Greek Cypriots VP? :?


You yourself have stated what we have done which you still seek revenge for so giving you the free hand you desire to do as you wish based on your numerical advantage will be our downfall, we must demand safeguards and guarantees that will never expose us to your mindset.

VP , for every G/C fascist there are at least 1 million Europeans including Cypriots who will defend the right of all of our citizens to full enjoyment of their human rights.
The fact that on this forum there are a few such individuals it does not mean that their views are representative of the G/C Cypriot people , anymore that the views of the T/C fascists.
You have witnessed my challenges to the extremists from both sides for a few years now and I hope you put a different interpretation to that that you originally posted concerning my position.


You and your like a very small minority and thats what scares us the most otherwise we would have no problems merging in a unitary state. The people on this forum unfortunately for me do represent and reconfirm my worst fears, in the face to which safeguards guarantees and strict penalities are vital if we even to consider living together.
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Postby Byron » Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:02 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:...a GC dominated island with no strict political bouderies will allow revenge seeking GCs discriminate us at every turn until we capitulate to their demands of becoming a minority privilidge to live off their crumbs.

You’re awfully concerned about “revenge seeking”

What on earth have your people done to Greek Cypriots VP? :?


You yourself have stated what we have done which you still seek revenge for so giving you the free hand you desire to do as you wish based on your numerical advantage will be our downfall, we must demand safeguards and guarantees that will never expose us to your mindset.

VP , for every G/C fascist there are at least 1 million Europeans including Cypriots who will defend the right of all of our citizens to full enjoyment of their human rights.
The fact that on this forum there are a few such individuals it does not mean that their views are representative of the G/C Cypriot people , anymore that the views of the T/C fascists.
You have witnessed my challenges to the extremists from both sides for a few years now and I hope you put a different interpretation to that that you originally posted concerning my position.


You and your like a very small minority and thats what scares us the most otherwise we would have no problems merging in a unitary state. The people on this forum unfortunately for me do represent and reconfirm my worst fears, in the face to which safeguards guarantees and strict penalities are vital if we even to consider living together.


What is required is sensible debate in a civilised way which unfortunately we do not see on this forum.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:07 pm

Byron wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:...a GC dominated island with no strict political bouderies will allow revenge seeking GCs discriminate us at every turn until we capitulate to their demands of becoming a minority privilidge to live off their crumbs.

You’re awfully concerned about “revenge seeking”

What on earth have your people done to Greek Cypriots VP? :?


You yourself have stated what we have done which you still seek revenge for so giving you the free hand you desire to do as you wish based on your numerical advantage will be our downfall, we must demand safeguards and guarantees that will never expose us to your mindset.

VP , for every G/C fascist there are at least 1 million Europeans including Cypriots who will defend the right of all of our citizens to full enjoyment of their human rights.
The fact that on this forum there are a few such individuals it does not mean that their views are representative of the G/C Cypriot people , anymore that the views of the T/C fascists.
You have witnessed my challenges to the extremists from both sides for a few years now and I hope you put a different interpretation to that that you originally posted concerning my position.


You and your like a very small minority and thats what scares us the most otherwise we would have no problems merging in a unitary state. The people on this forum unfortunately for me do represent and reconfirm my worst fears, in the face to which safeguards guarantees and strict penalities are vital if we even to consider living together.


What is required is sensible debate in a civilised way which unfortunately we do not see on this forum.


Byron if we truely believed that GCs were just like Miltiades or Bananiot I would not have nay problem living in a unitary state with these people allowing them to run my future as I know they would have the best interests of everyone at heart but the likes or Oracle Kifeas Kikapu Piratis Sotos and many others spells dangers and raises the need to safeguards and guarantees necessary to stop these people from exploiting and discriminating against us all in the of democracy.
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Postby Byron » Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:10 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Byron wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:...a GC dominated island with no strict political bouderies will allow revenge seeking GCs discriminate us at every turn until we capitulate to their demands of becoming a minority privilidge to live off their crumbs.

You’re awfully concerned about “revenge seeking”

What on earth have your people done to Greek Cypriots VP? :?


You yourself have stated what we have done which you still seek revenge for so giving you the free hand you desire to do as you wish based on your numerical advantage will be our downfall, we must demand safeguards and guarantees that will never expose us to your mindset.

VP , for every G/C fascist there are at least 1 million Europeans including Cypriots who will defend the right of all of our citizens to full enjoyment of their human rights.
The fact that on this forum there are a few such individuals it does not mean that their views are representative of the G/C Cypriot people , anymore that the views of the T/C fascists.
You have witnessed my challenges to the extremists from both sides for a few years now and I hope you put a different interpretation to that that you originally posted concerning my position.


You and your like a very small minority and thats what scares us the most otherwise we would have no problems merging in a unitary state. The people on this forum unfortunately for me do represent and reconfirm my worst fears, in the face to which safeguards guarantees and strict penalities are vital if we even to consider living together.


What is required is sensible debate in a civilised way which unfortunately we do not see on this forum.


Byron if we truely believed that GCs were just like Miltiades or Bananiot I would not have nay problem living in a unitary state with these people allowing them to run my future as I know they would have the best interests of everyone at heart but the likes or Oracle Kifeas Kikapu Piratis Sotos and many others spells dangers and raises the need to safeguards and guarantees necessary to stop these people from exploiting and discriminating against us all in the of democracy.


You have a fair point but unfortunately Miltiades cannot be considered a role model in my opinion.
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Postby kurupetos » Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:10 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
halil wrote:Ancient Names of Cyprus

The island was given many names by the writers, either ancient or present ones. Here are some of the most important: Akamantis, Aspelia, Kition, Khettiim, Makaria, Kryptos, Kypros, Khethima, Kyoforos, Alasia, Kerastis, Amathousia, Miionis, Sfikia, Kolinia, Tharsis, Aeria, Nea Iousiniani


My favourite is Kryptos - the birthplace of Superman.


:shock: :lol: :lol:

It's funny that most of the above names are Greek (e.g., Akamantis). Some are phoenician-eteocypriot (Khettim) and none turkish!

Well done Halil! :D
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:15 pm

Byron wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Byron wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:...a GC dominated island with no strict political bouderies will allow revenge seeking GCs discriminate us at every turn until we capitulate to their demands of becoming a minority privilidge to live off their crumbs.

You’re awfully concerned about “revenge seeking”

What on earth have your people done to Greek Cypriots VP? :?


You yourself have stated what we have done which you still seek revenge for so giving you the free hand you desire to do as you wish based on your numerical advantage will be our downfall, we must demand safeguards and guarantees that will never expose us to your mindset.

VP , for every G/C fascist there are at least 1 million Europeans including Cypriots who will defend the right of all of our citizens to full enjoyment of their human rights.
The fact that on this forum there are a few such individuals it does not mean that their views are representative of the G/C Cypriot people , anymore that the views of the T/C fascists.
You have witnessed my challenges to the extremists from both sides for a few years now and I hope you put a different interpretation to that that you originally posted concerning my position.


You and your like a very small minority and thats what scares us the most otherwise we would have no problems merging in a unitary state. The people on this forum unfortunately for me do represent and reconfirm my worst fears, in the face to which safeguards guarantees and strict penalities are vital if we even to consider living together.


What is required is sensible debate in a civilised way which unfortunately we do not see on this forum.


Byron if we truely believed that GCs were just like Miltiades or Bananiot I would not have nay problem living in a unitary state with these people allowing them to run my future as I know they would have the best interests of everyone at heart but the likes or Oracle Kifeas Kikapu Piratis Sotos and many others spells dangers and raises the need to safeguards and guarantees necessary to stop these people from exploiting and discriminating against us all in the of democracy.


You have a fair point but unfortunately Miltiades cannot be considered a role model in my opinion.


OMHO it all comes down to trust and due to the underhand tactics of the past neither sides trusts the other and does not want a return to the awful situation of the past. TCs ask for safeguards and GCs do not want to give them psyhcologically how do you think that effects the majority of TCs here they go again they want to have no restrictions to do as they wish with the TCs and so they are trying to get the upper hand, so we dig our heels in and ask for even more safegaurds and guarantees. If GCs were like Miltiades and argued for both sides people would not look at whether he is a GC or TC but what he can do for me and my future on this island. I hope this helps you understand where they majority of TCs are coming from the main obstacle is trust we just do not have any for each other.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:43 pm

Viewpoint wrote:...if we truely believed that GCs were just like Miltiades or Bananiot I would not have nay problem living in a unitary state with these people allowing them to run my future...

:shock: You trust Miltiades? :? It must be his profound love for the Afghani, Iraqi, and Palestinian children! Image
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Jul 11, 2009 6:50 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:...a GC dominated island with no strict political bouderies will allow revenge seeking GCs discriminate us at every turn until we capitulate to their demands of becoming a minority privilidge to live off their crumbs.

You’re awfully concerned about “revenge seeking”

What on earth have your people done to Greek Cypriots VP? :?


You yourself have stated what we have done which you still seek revenge for so giving you the free hand you desire to do as you wish based on your numerical advantage will be our downfall, we must demand safeguards and guarantees that will never expose us to your mindset.

VP , for every G/C fascist there are at least 1 million Europeans including Cypriots who will defend the right of all of our citizens to full enjoyment of their human rights.
The fact that on this forum there are a few such individuals it does not mean that their views are representative of the G/C Cypriot people , anymore that the views of the T/C fascists.
You have witnessed my challenges to the extremists from both sides for a few years now and I hope you put a different interpretation to that that you originally posted concerning my position.


You and your like a very small minority and thats what scares us the most otherwise we would have no problems merging in a unitary state. The people on this forum unfortunately for me do represent and reconfirm my worst fears, in the face to which safeguards guarantees and strict penalities are vital if we even to consider living together.



Perhaps its time for another poll asking which GCs want re-unification. I get the feeling that a significant number want the continuation of the status quo (hence partition). Am I wrong?
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Postby yialousa1971 » Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:42 pm

Floda wrote:
miltiades wrote:
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miltiades wrote:There is but one solution to our Cyprob.
Firstly all Cypriots , G/Cs and T/Cs , must embrace the island of Cyprus as their ONLY homeland , remove the parasites of false nationalism , eject foreign influence and accept that all Cypriots are entitled to call this island their own , get rid of the indifference towards others feelings , empathise and accept that each side has genuine concerns that must be addressed. Occupation troops are not protecting the T/Cs , they are annihilating their very existence on this island , they are being replaced by non Cypriots who look and always will look to Turkey as their real homeland.
The T/Cs are reacting against the efforts by their elected leaders to remove anything Cypriot about them as the majority feel , just as we do , Cypriot first.
The political arena is where the battle to reunite our island will take place . Antagonising and continuing to apportion blame for the evils that took place on our island will achieve nothing but the fanning of the flames of hatred and we all know where that could lead.


OR, in short words, capitulate, give the Yanks and your other mates the Israelis, Brits and Turks, exactly what they want in the guise of reaching an agreement.

Nice one 'Batman'. :wink:

Apart from being clueless you also lack the ability to comprehend an article . Listen weirdo , who said anything about capitulating , who said give an inch of Cyprus to a foreign country ?
Miltiades's position is known by all on this forum so cut the crap out and help your fellow Cypriots at the Ayios Stephanos Home , can you spare 10 euros ? If yes visit the appropriate thread and put your money where your big mouth is.


You display ALL the attributes of a 'Tinker' when you make such comments as are designed to offer insult (minus your usual filthy language of course which is probably the result of your being warned for so doing).

I am quite at a loss to understand your adamant claims that you are a Cypriot since you are so obviously NOT worthy of such title. (IMHO)

Surely, due to your allegiance to the UK and all it's atrocities, you are the classical example of a patriotic Brit and avid admirer of the USA and it's counterparts.

The 'Tinker' trait............. I mention, since it is known that you deal in pots and pans (one of their trades) you do use the most offensive language (another) you do 'Beg' (another) and you do not really have a country which could truly call you a 'Son of the Soil'.

Perhaps you should purchase a horse-drawn caravan and let it all hang out, THAT way, at least you would resemble something discernible, as it now stands, one can only wonder who you TRULY are. (IMHO of course) 8)


Would you like to buy some lucky Heather Sir? :D No thanks, you fucking...Curse you....... :evil: Yeah, sounds a bit like Miltiades. :lol:
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Postby Byron » Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:47 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:...a GC dominated island with no strict political bouderies will allow revenge seeking GCs discriminate us at every turn until we capitulate to their demands of becoming a minority privilidge to live off their crumbs.

You’re awfully concerned about “revenge seeking”

What on earth have your people done to Greek Cypriots VP? :?


You yourself have stated what we have done which you still seek revenge for so giving you the free hand you desire to do as you wish based on your numerical advantage will be our downfall, we must demand safeguards and guarantees that will never expose us to your mindset.

VP , for every G/C fascist there are at least 1 million Europeans including Cypriots who will defend the right of all of our citizens to full enjoyment of their human rights.
The fact that on this forum there are a few such individuals it does not mean that their views are representative of the G/C Cypriot people , anymore that the views of the T/C fascists.
You have witnessed my challenges to the extremists from both sides for a few years now and I hope you put a different interpretation to that that you originally posted concerning my position.


You and your like a very small minority and thats what scares us the most otherwise we would have no problems merging in a unitary state. The people on this forum unfortunately for me do represent and reconfirm my worst fears, in the face to which safeguards guarantees and strict penalities are vital if we even to consider living together.



Perhaps its time for another poll asking which GCs want re-unification. I get the feeling that a significant number want the continuation of the status quo (hence partition). Am I wrong?


Partition is not in the interests of either Greek or Turkish Cypriots but unfortunately neither party is giving way just like a game of chess with many openings and endless endgame positions. Even so there is no justification for the TURKISH MILITARY to keep 35000 troops when the EU is a guarantor. Once the military goes a solution will be found.
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