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Postby kurupetos » Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:48 pm

YFred wrote:
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halil wrote:Kuruptepe ..... TRNC pigeon is more peacefull than ROC one .


Reh Halil, it's a Dove.


Actually, it's an arkopezouno! :lol:

bon na do this ena don beksis?


No dear, enime jinios! :wink:
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Postby Alpeis » Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:22 pm

Viewpoint wrote:I am a proud Turkish Cypriot living literally under my flag..



That's a nice work :)
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Postby Oracle » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:00 pm

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The Cypriot wrote:O, please keep up.


... Excuse me! But I don't think you took enough time to read and reflect on the "Symbolisms of the Sword" information I gave you .... :roll:


It's the symbolism of the flag as a whole that matters. That is a symbol of Imperialism, of Empire, as is the Star and Crescent moon.


The symbolism of the flag as a whole, is of a beautiful bird (eagle) with two heads (two heads, better than one) looking East and West ... What could be more open minded or Global? Or, looking to the past and the future ... It's a brilliant symbol worthy of a T-shirt I shall commission tomorrow 8)

At least it's not a turkey ....
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:45 pm

Oracle wrote:
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The Cypriot wrote:O, please keep up.


... Excuse me! But I don't think you took enough time to read and reflect on the "Symbolisms of the Sword" information I gave you .... :roll:


It's the symbolism of the flag as a whole that matters. That is a symbol of Imperialism, of Empire, as is the Star and Crescent moon.


The symbolism of the flag as a whole, is of a beautiful bird (eagle) with two heads (two heads, better than one) looking East and West ... What could be more open minded or Global? Or, looking to the past and the future ... It's a brilliant symbol worthy of a T-shirt I shall commission tomorrow 8)

At least it's not a turkey ....


That's a nice, positive, fresh way of looking at a symbol of ancient empire. Really. I'm impressed. It's helped. That and the earlier sword interpretation you gave me, (esp. the Buddhist stuff).

I'll try and look at it that way from now on. Perhaps I've been tainted; warped by my views of imperialism and also of religious intolerence – and the roles they've both played in the destruction of Cyprus. Maybe I'm just too bitter; too twisted; too prejudiced. Maybe it's some kind of ancestral dread that I'm having difficulty coming to terms with.

Would you also help me by finding a nice, positive, fresh way of looking at this symbol of even more ancient (and also, as it happens, modern) Empire?

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Postby Oracle » Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:22 am

The Cypriot wrote:Would you also help me by finding a nice, positive, fresh way of looking at this symbol of even more ancient (and also, as it happens, modern) Empire?

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Simply by the fact, it is adopted by an enemy invader to subjugate the Cypriot natives, then nothing positive can be associated with this symbol, in the current context. Just like Hitler stole the "Greek Key" for his swastika, so too the Turks, our ancient crescent and star.

Think "Pepsi" and "Coca Cola" .....
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Postby YFred » Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:30 am

Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:Would you also help me by finding a nice, positive, fresh way of looking at this symbol of even more ancient (and also, as it happens, modern) Empire?

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Simply by the fact, it is adopted by an enemy invader to subjugate the Cypriot natives, then nothing positive can be associated with this symbol, in the current context. Just like Hitler stole the "Greek Key" for his swastika, so too the Turks, our ancient crescent and star.

Think "Pepsi" and "Coca Cola" .....

No No. When I think of Pepsi my thoughts immediately goes to Shirley. You know the backing group for that other manly great bumbolla Hellenic Cypriot.
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Postby boomerang » Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:33 am

YFred wrote:
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The Cypriot wrote:Would you also help me by finding a nice, positive, fresh way of looking at this symbol of even more ancient (and also, as it happens, modern) Empire?

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Simply by the fact, it is adopted by an enemy invader to subjugate the Cypriot natives, then nothing positive can be associated with this symbol, in the current context. Just like Hitler stole the "Greek Key" for his swastika, so too the Turks, our ancient crescent and star.

Think "Pepsi" and "Coca Cola" .....

No No. When I think of Pepsi my thoughts immediately goes to Shirley. You know the backing group for that other manly great bumbolla Hellenic Cypriot.


is that what you call dick when you are alone knucklehead?... :lol:

what else dick had to say?... :lol:
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Postby The Cypriot » Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:48 am

Oracle wrote:Simply by the fact, it is adopted by an enemy invader to subjugate the Cypriot natives, then nothing positive can be associated with this symbol, in the current context. Just like Hitler stole the "Greek Key" for his swastika, so too the Turks, our ancient crescent and star.

Think "Pepsi" and "Coca Cola" .....


Fair enough. If that's how you feel.

I do think it's ironic that the graffiti up in lights on the mountainside – used to remind the whole world of the presence of uncouth, oppressive, foreign thieves in Cyprus – is in fact an ancient symbol of the very culture these foolish barbarians have been so keen to obliterate from the north. I mean, talk about shooting yourself in the foot!

It's a symbol, perhaps, that should be reclaimed now. As an act of defiance. To show how, one day, our stolen lands shall be reclaimed in turn.


This land is ours. This symbol is ours...

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Postby Oracle » Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:03 am

The Cypriot wrote:.... It's a symbol, perhaps, that should be reclaimed now. As an act of defiance. To show how, one day, our stolen lands shall be reclaimed in turn.


This land is ours. This symbol is ours...


I am pleased you delight in your fotisma regarding our ancient 'star and crescent' symbol, and in order to avoid hypocrisy, on your part, may I now see you show the same courtesy to our other (less) ancient symbols ....

Perhaps the Orthodox Church is ahead of you .....
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Postby DT. » Wed Jul 08, 2009 8:00 am

The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:Simply by the fact, it is adopted by an enemy invader to subjugate the Cypriot natives, then nothing positive can be associated with this symbol, in the current context. Just like Hitler stole the "Greek Key" for his swastika, so too the Turks, our ancient crescent and star.

Think "Pepsi" and "Coca Cola" .....


Fair enough. If that's how you feel.

I do think it's ironic that the graffiti up in lights on the mountainside – used to remind the whole world of the presence of uncouth, oppressive, foreign thieves in Cyprus – is in fact an ancient symbol of the very culture these foolish barbarians have been so keen to obliterate from the north. I mean, talk about shooting yourself in the foot!

It's a symbol, perhaps, that should be reclaimed now. As an act of defiance. To show how, one day, our stolen lands shall be reclaimed in turn.


This land is ours. This symbol is ours...

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lose the red for a lovely sea blue and you're done.
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