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Postby The Cypriot » Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:54 pm

Oracle wrote:The Church has its own laws and symbols and has nothing to do with the democratically representative government ... so stop chastising them as they are The GREEK Orthodox Church. Of course they would choose symbols with crosses on them instead of Mediterranean Islands .... :roll:


Are you being deliberately dense? I'm talking about the yellow flag with the sword - that symbol of imperial empire.
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:56 pm

Alpeis wrote:Unfortunately :lol: I agree with Oracle :P


Unfortunately, Oracle doesn't know what she's talking about.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:06 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
Oracle wrote:The Church has its own laws and symbols and has nothing to do with the democratically representative government ... so stop chastising them as they are The GREEK Orthodox Church. Of course they would choose symbols with crosses on them instead of Mediterranean Islands .... :roll:


Are you being deliberately dense? I'm talking about the yellow flag with the sword - that symbol of imperial empire.


Reh, now you are definitely being deliberately dense! :roll: The sword doesn't mean anything of the sort.

Lookie here for meaning:

Symbolic-meanings.com wrote:
Sword symbolism speaks of:

Solidarity
Defense
Clarity
Power
Honor
Force

Most perceptible is the symbolism of protection, honor and justice embodied in the blade of the sword.

Metaphysically speaking the sword is symbolic of the penetrating power of the mind, and encourages the wielding of trained intellect to bring about the results we seek.

The making of a sword incorporates all the elements: Earth, Fire, Air, Water. This is a powerful point as it confirms the energetic pattern of the sword presents wholeness, balance, totality, and the unification of all resource to form a tightly focused beam of force (energy).

As an alchemical symbol aspects of the sword are representative of purification through the process of life and death.

Furthermore, Buddhism recognizes the sword as a metaphor in that the sword cuts through ignorance to reach to the truth in all things….“cutting through” wrong thought.

In Japan the sword is a symbol of courage and strength. Here the sword is created by smithys in religious rituals. Their swords are highly valued and serve as symbols of the warrior archetype.

As a Celtic symbol, the sword is connected to gain, wealth, honor, and establishment of hierarchy. Often swords we be consider markers of familial ties, and indicate victories won for the purpose of insuring the survival of blood lineage. Interestingly, swords were thought to be given as offerings by releasing them into the depths of the oceans. I’ve written more about this and the sword’s connection with Nuada, here.

Mayans symbolism indicates the sword as the giver of life. These people were intimate with the thin veil between physical life and spiritual life. The sword serves as a gateway (when slain in battle or sacrifice) into spiritual life as the physical body passes and the spirit lifts into celestial unfolding.

As dream symbols, the sword is considered to hold meanings of intellect, seeking power, aggression, decision and action. When we dream of swords our psyche is surfacing a message that it may be time for us to gain clarity about our position in life circumstances, take a stand and take action in a clear, discriminatory fashion.

It may also hearken to our chivalrous archetypal nature. Meaning, we may have an inclination to rescue someone (or ourselves). Swords in dreams may also confirm our internal strength, that we are not prisoners of our circumstance, but we may cut away these limiting ties that bind us.


(Anyway, I thought it was the 'blue and white' flag which was insulting your Cypriotness.)
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:08 pm

O, please keep up.

The Cypriot wrote:
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I was also told by many that churches in South have Byzantine flags. I don't like people talking on a subject without having sufficient knowledge on sth. As far as I know, that flag has nothing to do with Byzantine flag...It may be Orthodox church's flag...


Christ almighty. I'll make it simple for you.

Byzantine Empire flag:

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... re.svg.png



Greek Orthodox church flag:

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http://www.keffyroots.com/images/%20Gk% ... 20flag.gif
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Postby Oracle » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:16 pm

The Cypriot wrote:O, please keep up.


... Excuse me! But I don't think you took enough time to read and reflect on the "Symbolisms of the Sword" information I gave you .... :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:19 pm

halil wrote:
DT. wrote:For starters if someone is going to photoshop something can they at least spell it right? :roll:

Enosis is spelt with an omega and not an omikron. :roll: :lol:


Than in here they don't know how to spell it .
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That appears to be in English... "Enosis" as opposed to the Greek "ΕΝΩΣΙΣ" or "Ένωσις" in lowercase.
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:23 pm

Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:O, please keep up.


... Excuse me! But I don't think you took enough time to read and reflect on the "Symbolisms of the Sword" information I gave you .... :roll:


It's the symbolism of the flag as a whole that matters. That is a symbol of Imperialism, of Empire, as is the Star and Crescent moon.
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Postby DT. » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:26 pm

Alpeis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Alpeis wrote:
Here it is ;)


I was hoping you were going to produce this. Had you been around awhile ago you would have seen this photo being trashed to pieces after proving it was a photoshop. :roll:

I'll dig out the surgery and post it.


LOL You are funny :lol: I myself never talk on a subject I don't know or am not sure.

In fact it's a snapshot from the Greek documentary Atilla (The rape of Cyprus). It may be the same mountain, however I can't make it sure since perspectives and shooting distances between the pictures I have are different from each other.

I also want to share my opinion on the flag issue. As any other nation we; Turkish, really like the flags waving all around our country. It's the same everywhere in the world, but I would like to mention that Greeks are the most freak people over flagism! among the nations I have observed. Don't take it offensive, blue and white houses even the same colour furnitures inside them really look nice.

Regarding the misspelling can it be a difference of Greek languages (I mean Ancient Greek, Cypriot Greek and Modern Greek)


You do realise that too much time on http://www.tallarmeniantale.com can be harmful to your IQ?

Personally I prefer www.greekmurderers.net although that seems to be offline for a while now.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:34 pm

DT. wrote:Personally I prefer www.greekmurderers.net although that seems to be offline for a while now.

And don't forget...

WWW.WeSurvived4Genocides.com

:lol:
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Postby DT. » Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:35 pm

Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:Personally I prefer www.greekmurderers.net although that seems to be offline for a while now.

And don't forget...

WWW.WeSurvived4Genocides.com

:lol:


CLASSIC! :lol:
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