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[DT.]

I was talking about the one over on this side DT. Unless you mean that the daugher of your former president happens to be very rich as well as very hot and that I should be interested in her since I am probably the only one here who is young enough to get anywhere with her

I know mate...just thought it was ironic that the one chain the former first family is involved in has decided to open up over there as well.

Gloria Jeans is an international franchise. The former President's daughter (TPap???) probably only has a franchise license.

But in any case, since it is a franchise, anyone can purchase a franchise license no matter where they are located. Obviously a TC has just bought a license and set up in the "trnc". This can't be stopped.

It is a bit like McDonalds.

Actually that's not entirely accurate. The TRNC has embargoes enforced on it and the GC's work VERY hard to internationally pressure such companies in order to stop any kind of investment over the north. So companies and some countries have started to ignore your unjust calls, meaning the embargoes might crumble in time, also meaning eventually we might not even need for a solution while the other side is planning ways to "rule everything". So you say we dont have shit? Well I think you are pretty wrong there..

Why unjust? How else do you halt recognition of an illegal state?

[shahmaran]

If you ignore everything that has happened for decades up until the point of division, then yes you can think of it that way DT.

That's why it is unjust.

[EPSILON]

If you ignore everything that has happened for decades up until the point of division, then yes you can think of it that way DT.

That's why it is unjust.

Decades or centuries? what to ignore?

[DT.]

If you ignore everything that has happened for decades up until the point of division, then yes you can think of it that way DT.

That's why it is unjust.

The only thing that impacts on today's life is the partition of this island. I am dealing with what affects this islands life now. The Ottomans killing 20,000 people on arrival, the inter-communal strife with 100's dead on both sides, the missing persons from both sides all are parts of our history that do not impact on the way of life now. What impacts is a military presence and an illegal call for legalising taksim by referring to parts of this island as a different country.

How do I stop that happening? By not allowing anyone to deal with the occupied territories and upgrading its status from millitary camp to state. That impacts todays life.

[shahmaran]

If you ignore everything that has happened for decades up until the point of division, then yes you can think of it that way DT.

That's why it is unjust.

The only thing that impacts on today's life is the partition of this island. I am dealing with what affects this islands life now. The Ottomans killing 20,000 people on arrival, the inter-communal strife with 100's dead on both sides, the missing persons from both sides all are parts of our history that do not impact on the way of life now. What impacts is a military presence and an illegal call for legalising taksim by referring to parts of this island as a different country.

How do I stop that happening? By not allowing anyone to deal with the occupied territories and upgrading its status from millitary camp to state. That impacts todays life.

Well DT, and Epsilon, the problem is, even if you starve us to death this wont make the Turkish army leave. That's a fact. They only way they will go would be with a fair solution. This is why the sanctions are unjust and unfair because it only effects the people who have been living here for centuries. You are not fighting the "occupiers" you are fighting your own people!

We have greatly decreased in numbers and have caused for the arrival of the Turkish immigrants. However the GC's are not in the business for caring for human rights on this side, they only cry for human rights on their side.

The partition of this island was necessary due to serious violence and horrible living standards of the TC's.

If you ignore all this then of course you can make us look like the bad guys since you have lost the war, and you can call us illegal, thieves, racist, murderers, percussionists etc. etc.

If we agree that we have both played part in the conflict, then how can you justify the current situation where one is being punished for everything and the other one is being literally given everything they can ask for?

[EPSILON]

If you ignore everything that has happened for decades up until the point of division, then yes you can think of it that way DT.

That's why it is unjust.

The only thing that impacts on today's life is the partition of this island. I am dealing with what affects this islands life now. The Ottomans killing 20,000 people on arrival, the inter-communal strife with 100's dead on both sides, the missing persons from both sides all are parts of our history that do not impact on the way of life now. What impacts is a military presence and an illegal call for legalising taksim by referring to parts of this island as a different country.

How do I stop that happening? By not allowing anyone to deal with the occupied territories and upgrading its status from millitary camp to state. That impacts todays life.

Well DT, and Epsilon, the problem is, even if you starve us to death this wont make the Turkish army leave. That's a fact. They only way they will go would be with a fair solution. This is why the sanctions are unjust and unfair because it only effects the people who have been living here for centuries. You are not fighting the "occupiers" you are fighting your own people!

We have greatly decreased in numbers and have caused for the arrival of the Turkish immigrants. However the GC's are not in the business for caring for human rights on this side, they only cry for human rights on their side.

The partition of this island was necessary due to serious violence and horrible living standards of the TC's.

If you ignore all this then of course you can make us look like the bad guys since you have lost the war, and you can call us illegal, thieves, racist, murderers, percussionists etc. etc.

If we agree that we have both played part in the conflict, then how can you justify the current situation where one is being punished for everything and the other one is being literally given everything they can ask for?

OK-Get authorization from occupation forces to agree/sign a FAIR SOLUTION and we are with you.

[shahmaran]

It is not up to them to find it.

They have agreed to leave once we find a solution and that's what we need to do.

Meanwhile you can keep strangling us

[waldorf]

It's not this side that is strangling you, but the presence of your own Big Brother !!!

[Viewpoint]

It's not this side that is strangling you, but the presence of your own Big Brother !!!

So what do you suggest?

[bill cobbett]

It's not this side that is strangling you, but the presence of your own Big Brother !!!

So what do you suggest?

100E on the nose, no.7, "End The Occupation", this Saturday, in the 3 o'clock.