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Postby boomerang » Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:08 pm

DT. wrote:
halil wrote:I bet most of the GC's read President Talat's interview which is published in Simerini News paper.

He said very simple:

Many times EU took a side from GC's side. Thats why Turkish Cypriots does not trust the EU. Turkish Cypriots does not trust others guarantees than others .
It is very straight he says if there is no actions against the Turkish Cypriots or bloodshed why u are scaring Turkish quarantees.There will be no such a things why u are worring .Guarantees are only for Turkish Cypriots to feel comortable ...............

here is the Turkish translation from Greek .

http://www.kibrisligazetesi.net/kibrisl ... e_id=29695


Can talat tell us where in the treaty of gaurantee does it say that Turkey can occupy 1/3 of the island and call it a separate country?

If Turkey followed the agreements it signed then the GC's might have been a little warmer to trusting that country's intentions.


re dt they are all chooks they can't think for themselves....
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Postby halil » Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:09 pm

DT. wrote:
halil wrote:I bet most of the GC's read President Talat's interview which is published in Simerini News paper.

He said very simple:

Many times EU took a side from GC's side. Thats why Turkish Cypriots does not trust the EU. Turkish Cypriots does not trust others guarantees than others .
It is very straight he says if there is no actions against the Turkish Cypriots or bloodshed why u are scaring Turkish quarantees.There will be no such a things why u are worring .Guarantees are only for Turkish Cypriots to feel comortable ...............

here is the Turkish translation from Greek .

http://www.kibrisligazetesi.net/kibrisl ... e_id=29695


Can talat tell us where in the treaty of gaurantee does it say that Turkey can occupy 1/3 of the island and call it a separate country?

If Turkey followed the agreements it signed then the GC's might have been a little warmer to trusting that country's intentions.


does consitution says occupy parliment of Cyprus only for Greeks or Greek Cypriots and pretent to be nothing happened by 13 points .

DT have u read the interview ?
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Postby DT. » Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:10 pm

halil wrote:
DT. wrote:
halil wrote:I bet most of the GC's read President Talat's interview which is published in Simerini News paper.

He said very simple:

Many times EU took a side from GC's side. Thats why Turkish Cypriots does not trust the EU. Turkish Cypriots does not trust others guarantees than others .
It is very straight he says if there is no actions against the Turkish Cypriots or bloodshed why u are scaring Turkish quarantees.There will be no such a things why u are worring .Guarantees are only for Turkish Cypriots to feel comortable ...............

here is the Turkish translation from Greek .

http://www.kibrisligazetesi.net/kibrisl ... e_id=29695


Can talat tell us where in the treaty of gaurantee does it say that Turkey can occupy 1/3 of the island and call it a separate country?

If Turkey followed the agreements it signed then the GC's might have been a little warmer to trusting that country's intentions.


does consitution says occupy parliment of Cyprus only for Greeks or Greek Cypriots and pretent to be nothing happened by 13 points .


You comparing a proposal for the amendment of 13 points with an invasion and occupation of a country?
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Postby boomerang » Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:10 pm

halil wrote:
DT. wrote:
halil wrote:I bet most of the GC's read President Talat's interview which is published in Simerini News paper.

He said very simple:

Many times EU took a side from GC's side. Thats why Turkish Cypriots does not trust the EU. Turkish Cypriots does not trust others guarantees than others .
It is very straight he says if there is no actions against the Turkish Cypriots or bloodshed why u are scaring Turkish quarantees.There will be no such a things why u are worring .Guarantees are only for Turkish Cypriots to feel comortable ...............

here is the Turkish translation from Greek .

http://www.kibrisligazetesi.net/kibrisl ... e_id=29695


Can talat tell us where in the treaty of gaurantee does it say that Turkey can occupy 1/3 of the island and call it a separate country?

If Turkey followed the agreements it signed then the GC's might have been a little warmer to trusting that country's intentions.


does consitution says occupy parliment of Cyprus only for Greeks or Greek Cypriots and pretent to be nothing happened by 13 points .


see what I mean?....wasted breath...he jumps from one hoop to another without comprehending...he is a one helluva mixed puppy this cyprus turk... :lol:

wasting precious oxygen for nothing... :lol:
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Re: EU is a guarantor to Cyprus

Postby denizaksulu » Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:11 pm

Paphitis wrote:Swedish ambassador talks of EU involvement in Cyprus

03.JUL.09

Ambassador of Sweden to Cyprus Ingemar Lindahl, whose country took over the EU presidency on July 1 said yesterday that the EU will have a big post-settlement role in Cyprus, reports CNA.

Lindahl said both sides in Cyprus are open to “an appropriate EU involvement” in efforts to solve the Cyprus problem and the EU has to try to assist with its expertise, something it has already done to some extent.

He added that clearly the process for a Cyprus settlement is a Cypriot process within the framework of the good offices of the UN Secretary General

When asked if there should be EU guarantees in case of a settlement, Lindahl said that the fact that Cyprus is a member of the EU is a guarantee.


Asked about the opening of more negotiating chapters with Turkey during the Swedish Presidency, the ambassador said there are three chapters that could open during his country’s presidency: Social Policy, Environment and Competition.

“We hope to be able to open a couple of chapters during the Fall,” he said, pointing out that Turkey had to prepare certain legislations.

“We will try to open all three, if possible. But it depends. It might be only one. We will see,”

SOURCE: Famagusta Gazette

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

It just gets better and better..... 8)

EU tells Turkey that it can stick its Guarantor Treaty:

When asked if there should be EU guarantees in case of a settlement, Lindahl said that the fact that Cyprus is a member of the EU is a guarantee.


8)



It does sound promising. The ball is now in the Partitionists court. I can guess their answer. :?
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Postby Paphitis » Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:12 pm

halil wrote:
DT. wrote:
halil wrote:I bet most of the GC's read President Talat's interview which is published in Simerini News paper.

He said very simple:

Many times EU took a side from GC's side. Thats why Turkish Cypriots does not trust the EU. Turkish Cypriots does not trust others guarantees than others .
It is very straight he says if there is no actions against the Turkish Cypriots or bloodshed why u are scaring Turkish quarantees.There will be no such a things why u are worring .Guarantees are only for Turkish Cypriots to feel comortable ...............

here is the Turkish translation from Greek .

http://www.kibrisligazetesi.net/kibrisl ... e_id=29695


Can talat tell us where in the treaty of gaurantee does it say that Turkey can occupy 1/3 of the island and call it a separate country?

If Turkey followed the agreements it signed then the GC's might have been a little warmer to trusting that country's intentions.


does consitution says occupy parliment of Cyprus only for Greeks or Greek Cypriots and pretent to be nothing happened by 13 points .

DT have u read the interview ?


This is what happens when the constitution affords political rights to racial communities.

The only solution is for the new Cyprus constitution to be based on the EU Charter, where citizens rights are guaranteed to ALL citizens as EQUALS.
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Postby umit07 » Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:13 pm

boomerang wrote:
umit07 wrote:First let's reach an agreement first then talk about cementing it!
IMO Guarantorship should be the last topic to be discussed. It's like trying to reach a business deal but emphasizing on the future negative implications should one side not comply, showing signs of ill intent on both sides.


good point umit...

how was the trip?...back yet?


Got Back yesterday, on the way to Sydney we took the Princess Hwy which was a very scenic route. As for the trip one dude that came along ( a friends friend) turned out to be a total jackass but then again the trip on a whole was OK.
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Postby boomerang » Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:17 pm

umit07 wrote:
boomerang wrote:
umit07 wrote:First let's reach an agreement first then talk about cementing it!
IMO Guarantorship should be the last topic to be discussed. It's like trying to reach a business deal but emphasizing on the future negative implications should one side not comply, showing signs of ill intent on both sides.


good point umit...

how was the trip?...back yet?


Got Back yesterday, on the way to Sydney we took the Princess Hwy which was a very scenic route. As for the trip one dude that came along ( a friends friend) turned out to be a total jackass but then again the trip on a whole was OK.


did you like the cemented roads in NSW?...great for thumping the petal to the metal....I did it many times just for the thrill of high speed... :lol:

did you stop in merimbula?...a great place for fishing...been there many times as well...
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Re: EU is a guarantor to Cyprus

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:18 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Swedish ambassador talks of EU involvement in Cyprus

03.JUL.09

Ambassador of Sweden to Cyprus Ingemar Lindahl, whose country took over the EU presidency on July 1 said yesterday that the EU will have a big post-settlement role in Cyprus, reports CNA.

Lindahl said both sides in Cyprus are open to “an appropriate EU involvement” in efforts to solve the Cyprus problem and the EU has to try to assist with its expertise, something it has already done to some extent.

He added that clearly the process for a Cyprus settlement is a Cypriot process within the framework of the good offices of the UN Secretary General

When asked if there should be EU guarantees in case of a settlement, Lindahl said that the fact that Cyprus is a member of the EU is a guarantee.


Asked about the opening of more negotiating chapters with Turkey during the Swedish Presidency, the ambassador said there are three chapters that could open during his country’s presidency: Social Policy, Environment and Competition.

“We hope to be able to open a couple of chapters during the Fall,” he said, pointing out that Turkey had to prepare certain legislations.

“We will try to open all three, if possible. But it depends. It might be only one. We will see,”

SOURCE: Famagusta Gazette

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:lol: :lol: :lol:

It just gets better and better..... 8)

EU tells Turkey that it can stick its Guarantor Treaty:

When asked if there should be EU guarantees in case of a settlement, Lindahl said that the fact that Cyprus is a member of the EU is a guarantee.


8)



It does sound promising. The ball is now in the Partitionists court. I can guess their answer. :?


We are not going to sign away our hard fought Human Rights as defined by the EU Charter.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24795

If the partitionists use this to their advantage to keep Cyprus divided, then so be it. But we will not be blackmailed to accept a solution which will deprive our EU Article 1 Human Right to Dignity for the sake of a solution.
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Postby umit07 » Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:34 pm

Paphitis wrote:
umit07 wrote:First let's reach an agreement first then talk about cementing it!
IMO Guarantorship should be the last topic to be discussed. It's like trying to reach a business deal but emphasizing on the future negative implications should one side not comply, showing signs of ill intent on both sides.


It is better to discuss this right now as this is definitely one of the show stoppers to a solution.


Nearly everything is a "show stopper" when it comes to the Cyprus problem. "Guarantee" to an average TC means an effective mechanism that prevents any "misinterpretations" or foul play after the implementation of any agreement. To GC's, "Turkey's Guarantee" is seen as a raincheck to fuck Cyprus over.
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