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[bill cobbett]

Reh Jackass VP,

The last time I looked it was those Green Goat friends of yours, the murdering fanatics you admire so much and the thugs of the Tnucland regime who were doing the murdering in front of the world's press when your friends killed our brothers Issac and Solomos (may they rest in peace).

Re Bastardo Bill...

Plenty of evidence that matters can flare up and that guarantees are needed in times of crisis...there is no trust I do not deny you a guarantor why do you deny me? obviously you have bad intentions as you want them clearly out of the way so that you cant operate and manipulate things in favor of GCs.

Reh Pesevenghi VP,

You really are flogging a dead horse with this "security" pollocks of yours.

The good people of the Free Areas of the Republic have agreed to a northern zone with local powers, this is more than enough to satisfy your dubious claims for security, especially given that by any standards it is the same good people of the Republic who are in need of protection from the very real threats that continue on a practically daily basis from your Turkish friends.

[Viewpoint]

Reh Jackass VP,

The last time I looked it was those Green Goat friends of yours, the murdering fanatics you admire so much and the thugs of the Tnucland regime who were doing the murdering in front of the world's press when your friends killed our brothers Issac and Solomos (may they rest in peace).

Re Bastardo Bill...

Plenty of evidence that matters can flare up and that guarantees are needed in times of crisis...there is no trust I do not deny you a guarantor why do you deny me? obviously you have bad intentions as you want them clearly out of the way so that you cant operate and manipulate things in favor of GCs.

Reh Pesevenghi VP,

You really are flogging a dead horse with this "security" pollocks of yours.

The good people of the Free Areas of the Republic have agreed to a northern zone with local powers, this is more than enough to satisfy your dubious claims for security, especially given that by any standards it is the same good people of the Republic who are in need of protection from the very real threats that continue on a practically daily basis from your Turkish friends.

Re siktir pislik Bill...(you started this childish name calling you can stop it)

Bizonal is an improvement but does not guarantee the safety of TCs in a time os crisis against a 8 to 2 ratio...the GCs have not exactly a great record of protecting and including the TCs in a united country. If we TCs do not object to GCs having a guarantor power such as the EU then why do they object to us having ours? do you not understand that theres is absolutely no trust on either side and that asking us to get rid of the life jacket will only encourage the GCs to act as they wish placing us at risk or even encouraging extremists without any deterrants.

[boomerang]

Reh Jackass VP,

The last time I looked it was those Green Goat friends of yours, the murdering fanatics you admire so much and the thugs of the Tnucland regime who were doing the murdering in front of the world's press when your friends killed our brothers Issac and Solomos (may they rest in peace).

Re Bastardo Bill...

Plenty of evidence that matters can flare up and that guarantees are needed in times of crisis...there is no trust I do not deny you a guarantor why do you deny me? obviously you have bad intentions as you want them clearly out of the way so that you cant operate and manipulate things in favor of GCs.

Reh Pesevenghi VP,

You really are flogging a dead horse with this "security" pollocks of yours.

The good people of the Free Areas of the Republic have agreed to a northern zone with local powers, this is more than enough to satisfy your dubious claims for security, especially given that by any standards it is the same good people of the Republic who are in need of protection from the very real threats that continue on a practically daily basis from your Turkish friends.

Re siktir pislik Bill...(you started this childish name calling you can stop it)

Bizonal is an improvement but does not guarantee the safety of TCs in a time os crisis against a 8 to 2 ratio...the GCs have not exactly a great record of protecting and including the TCs in a united country. If we TCs do not object to GCs having a guarantor power such as the EU then why do they object to us having ours? do you not understand that theres is absolutely no trust on either side and that asking us to get rid of the life jacket will only encourage the GCs to act as they wish placing us at risk or even encouraging extremists without any deterrants.

hmmmt....50% when it suits you and 8:2 ratio when it doesn't....anything else on the side you want with your order?...

[bill cobbett]

Reh Jackass VP,

The last time I looked it was those Green Goat friends of yours, the murdering fanatics you admire so much and the thugs of the Tnucland regime who were doing the murdering in front of the world's press when your friends killed our brothers Issac and Solomos (may they rest in peace).

Re Bastardo Bill...

Plenty of evidence that matters can flare up and that guarantees are needed in times of crisis...there is no trust I do not deny you a guarantor why do you deny me? obviously you have bad intentions as you want them clearly out of the way so that you cant operate and manipulate things in favor of GCs.

Reh Pesevenghi VP,

You really are flogging a dead horse with this "security" pollocks of yours.

The good people of the Free Areas of the Republic have agreed to a northern zone with local powers, this is more than enough to satisfy your dubious claims for security, especially given that by any standards it is the same good people of the Republic who are in need of protection from the very real threats that continue on a practically daily basis from your Turkish friends.

Re siktir pislik Bill...(you started this childish name calling you can stop it)

Bizonal is an improvement but does not guarantee the safety of TCs in a time os crisis against a 8 to 2 ratio...the GCs have not exactly a great record of protecting and including the TCs in a united country. If we TCs do not object to GCs having a guarantor power such as the EU then why do they object to us having ours? do you not understand that theres is absolutely no trust on either side and that asking us to get rid of the life jacket will only encourage the GCs to act as they wish placing us at risk or even encouraging extremists without any deterrants.

Pollocks you horse-loving, pushtomalakapesevenghimehdakitrinajemeh dohpaploma, you started the name-calling when you cast doubts on the legitimacy of our GR's parentage. Not for the first time when given the lack of any substance to your posts, you resort to the insults of the gutter and you don't like it when you are repaid in kind.

You have form in resorting to spiteful, juvenile personal insults against fellow members. It's about time a few of you in Tnucland learnt some manners.

As to security, I'll make it even simpler for you....

Tissy security = northern zone

Grissy security = no Turkish Army/Interference

[Viewpoint]

Reh Jackass VP,

The last time I looked it was those Green Goat friends of yours, the murdering fanatics you admire so much and the thugs of the Tnucland regime who were doing the murdering in front of the world's press when your friends killed our brothers Issac and Solomos (may they rest in peace).

Re Bastardo Bill...

Plenty of evidence that matters can flare up and that guarantees are needed in times of crisis...there is no trust I do not deny you a guarantor why do you deny me? obviously you have bad intentions as you want them clearly out of the way so that you cant operate and manipulate things in favor of GCs.

Reh Pesevenghi VP,

You really are flogging a dead horse with this "security" pollocks of yours.

The good people of the Free Areas of the Republic have agreed to a northern zone with local powers, this is more than enough to satisfy your dubious claims for security, especially given that by any standards it is the same good people of the Republic who are in need of protection from the very real threats that continue on a practically daily basis from your Turkish friends.

Re siktir pislik Bill...(you started this childish name calling you can stop it)

Bizonal is an improvement but does not guarantee the safety of TCs in a time os crisis against a 8 to 2 ratio...the GCs have not exactly a great record of protecting and including the TCs in a united country. If we TCs do not object to GCs having a guarantor power such as the EU then why do they object to us having ours? do you not understand that theres is absolutely no trust on either side and that asking us to get rid of the life jacket will only encourage the GCs to act as they wish placing us at risk or even encouraging extremists without any deterrants.

hmmmt....50% when it suits you and 8:2 ratio when it doesn't....anything else on the side you want with your order?...

The 50% is to ensure the 8:2 advantage is not exploited..you see there is absolutely no trust between the sides.

[boomerang]

so here is your guarantee....but you want to gift the whole of Cyprus tp turkey....with a cherry on top...

[repulsewarrior]

Talk is cheap whats does he mean by guarantees? does he have a task force ready to enter in times of crisis, what will he do when Tcs are discriminated against?

Get a backbone you poof!

Start fighting your own battles you sissies otherwise what do you want the “power sharing” for?

Yeah ill just get the garden spade to fight off GC extremists rioting through the north state or wear a bullet proof vest just in case your terrorists try to plant bombs in supermarkets, get real you bastard.

...more to the point, we will worry about TMT extremists, who do not hesitate to concoct some deadly force to use as a propaganda tool.

So long as you isolate your thinking, as though you have to be "Greek" to murder, then you will live with the worst that Mankind has to offer, and in denial like a wretched subject to their designs.

As such, there is no "Greek" "Turkish" conflict per se, and it is an insult to anyone of reason to expect that your tired old argument is nothing but a dogma which reveals an intolerance that exploits fear against an endeavour which to succeed betters the Human condition.

[humanist]

I cannot see how your safety would be at risk if all incidents will be treated by the same law...... that one that applies across all europe

[boomerang]

I cannot see how your safety would be at risk if all incidents will be treated by the same law...... that one that applies across all europe

because the tcs according to vp are the chosen ones....gods gift to mankind..

[Paphitis]

Swedish ambassador talks of EU involvement in Cyprus

03.JUL.09

Ambassador of Sweden to Cyprus Ingemar Lindahl, whose country took over the EU presidency on July 1 said yesterday that the EU will have a big post-settlement role in Cyprus, reports CNA.

Lindahl said both sides in Cyprus are open to “an appropriate EU involvement” in efforts to solve the Cyprus problem and the EU has to try to assist with its expertise, something it has already done to some extent.

He added that clearly the process for a Cyprus settlement is a Cypriot process within the framework of the good offices of the UN Secretary General

When asked if there should be EU guarantees in case of a settlement, Lindahl said that the fact that Cyprus is a member of the EU is a guarantee.

Asked about the opening of more negotiating chapters with Turkey during the Swedish Presidency, the ambassador said there are three chapters that could open during his country’s presidency: Social Policy, Environment and Competition.

“We hope to be able to open a couple of chapters during the Fall,” he said, pointing out that Turkey had to prepare certain legislations.

“We will try to open all three, if possible. But it depends. It might be only one. We will see,”

SOURCE: Famagusta Gazette

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It just gets better and better.....

EU tells Turkey that it can stick its Guarantor Treaty:

When asked if there should be EU guarantees in case of a settlement, Lindahl said that the fact that Cyprus is a member of the EU is a guarantee.

Talk is cheap whats does he mean by guarantees? does he have a task force ready to enter in times of crisis, what will he do when Tcs are discriminated against? become second class citizens at the hands of GC authorities, he should give us more details...this sweeping statement only impresses fools who want to hear such rubbish.

The EU Charter on Human Rights will be enshrined within the constitution to protect the rights of all citizens as EQUALS within a multicultural Cyprus.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=24795

The EU is the best guarantee to Cyprus. There is no other option as the GCs have legitimate security concerns against any involvement from both Turkey and Greece.