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[Alpeis]

My question is only to GC friends. Why do you want to unite with the North? Please, exclude the property issue

On the other hand, I haven't met even one single TC who has an enthusiasm to unite with the South!!! They look ok with the present situation...

Alpeis,

As a TC I was not going to respond, in keeping with your wish that this question must be answered by the GCs, but then when you added the second sentence above where you claim NO TCs want to unify with the GCs, which is absolutely false, except for the ones who are rolling in Haram money with the GCs properties, I have reached the conclusion that you are nothing but a mouth piece for the puppet regime in the north by making such statement as you did above. Your whole appearance here on the forum has been about that, no matter how you have on occasions been taking swipes at the military and to Turks in general, but you have moved your position a lot since your initial post only couple of days ago. I don't even buy into your so called "love story" to a GC girl. You are here with an agenda and no one is falling for it, least of all me, a TC who does want to unify the island, but regardless, I'm still looking forward in reading your Harlequin Romance Novel, "The Turk and the GC Girl", love at first sight in your first six months in the north.! Sell your story to whom ever wants to buy it, but don't try to sell it here, because you will go broke.!

By the way, where the hell on God’s Earth have you picked up that awful American slang word "DUDE" that you like to use so much.? It is hardly a word used by any Intellectuals in America, let alone an Intellectual from Turkey.!

I couldn't get your point. Besides, my stance hasn't changed at all!
As to my girlfriend, I said Greek not GC...Perhaps your perception is changing, not my stance...

Alpeis, you can play stupid all you want with me, because it is the only way that you can be safe here in what you write, since it is your claimed being an Intellectual that has gotten you in trouble so far.!

Haha, I don't think I did sth wrong with introducing myself as an intellectual at the beginning. Just wanted to mention that I don't think parallel to what majority thinks since they have been taught very well. I prefer to make judgments myself.

I am open to constructive discussions but just laughing at the rest.

[Get Real!]

So go ahead and do the same.....tell the world you do not want to resolve the situation the UN way for a second time if you dare...

If you were interested in the “UN way” you would start from here…

http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

…but you’re clearly NOT, so don’t give me this “UN” shit pretending to be a law-abiding person when in actual fact you’re just a bunch of 2-cent criminals!

The RoC can accept and reject anything it wants and take its time over it, and there’s not a damn that the TCs or Turkey can do about it so go suck an egg!

[Viewpoint]

So go ahead and do the same.....tell the world you do not want to resolve the situation the UN way for a second time if you dare...

If you were interested in the “UN way” you would start from here…

http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

…but you’re clearly NOT, so don’t give me this “UN” shit pretending to be a law-abiding person when in actual fact you’re just a bunch of 2-cent criminals!

The RoC can accept and reject anything it wants and take its time over it, and there’s not a damn that the TCs or Turkey can do about it so go suck an egg!

Be my guest reject away.

[non-cypriot]

Thanks for the answers! What I said is they lack the "enthusiasm" to unite.

enthusiasm: Great excitement for or interest in a subject or cause

Unfortunately, I see that GC's and TC's live in different worlds...

Like yourself I'm an outsider and have also done some research. unfortunately I'm not an "intellectual" like you... However it seems pretty clear to me that if the turks just went once and for all, the "two worlds" would blend at some point. Cypriots can be a handful which reminds me of my own people, but they got big harts. They are enterprising people by nature and that would reflect positively some way along the line. they have lived side by side in peace before and i'm sure they can do it again, but for that to happen the turks have to go.

[Kikapu]

Good question Alpeis, if the desire and need was there the island would have been united ages ago. The TC 65% was for something the GCs do not regard as unification and proof in itself that TCs and GCs see the ideology of unificiation as 2 different things a plus for one side is a negative for the other so the chance of solving the Cyprus divide will never be resolved as long as GCs see themselves with a god given right to take the whole island and turn it into a GC state with TCs as just another minority. The UN has told them that any solution will be a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

All the Federal states in the USA are equal to each other in the upper house, in a True Democratic way, but that does not suit you, does it, not unless it is undemocratic, which is not what the UN said or the EU. You would prefer a AP type of a "solution" so that you don't have to have a democracy in Cyprus so that you can have a legal partition at your choosing. You think people are stupid and that they can't see right through you. That dream is gone, so sooner you want a BBF based on Democracy, Human Rights and International Law, you can have true peace, otherwise stop blowing smoke up peoples ass by making meaningless statements such as "The UN has told them that any solution will be a BBF with political equality of the 2 states". The truth is, you don't want a solution which will mean giving back all stolen GC properties, just because you think you are entitled to them. You are not going to get away with it this time by claming that the other side said NO to a peace solution, because it will be you who will be saying NO to a peace solution, just because it will be based on EU Principles and the UN charters. Be prepared for no sympathy from the world when you say NO, just because you want an undemocratic principle for a solution. It won't happen.!

So are you claiming the UN USA EU UK GREECE and TURKEY backed something that was undemocratic?

Let me add and if we say NO what will happen? isolation non recognition

Let me give you the same post I made to YFred today, since you are both stuck on that same worthless broken record.

Did I imagine it or did UN, USA, EU, Turkey, Britain and Greece all give their blessing to the Anan plan?

YES, you imagined it. Just because certain individuals from those institutions supported it for their own selfish and corrupted reasons, did not mean it was supported by those countries or institutions main body. But if you say they have supported it, then I suppose you will have no problem when they support it again, but this time under True Federation, True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws, which all these principles lacked in the Annan Plan. Only Morally Corrupted individuals would have supported the AP, and we all know who they are, including all those here on the forum.!

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... ht=#465198

Let me add and if we say NO what will happen? isolation non recognition

If you want the non recognition to continue along with isolation, why is Talat negotiating if you like it so much the way things are. Why all the complaints that you don’t have anything to do with the outside world officially and only in limited way in what you do have. Oh, let me guess, because both Turkey and Talat have deadlines and the sale of GC properties has dried up.!

So what you are saying is, you will NOT accept peace based on Democracy, Human Rights, International Laws, EU Principles and UN Charter for sovereign nations. To bad, because that's what's on offer and all the countries and institutions you have mentioned above will also support the above, even Turkey, kicking and screaming, if she wants the EU that badly.

[kurupetos]

Good question Alpeis, if the desire and need was there the island would have been united ages ago. The TC 65% was for something the GCs do not regard as unification and proof in itself that TCs and GCs see the ideology of unificiation as 2 different things a plus for one side is a negative for the other so the chance of solving the Cyprus divide will never be resolved as long as GCs see themselves with a god given right to take the whole island and turn it into a GC state with TCs as just another minority. The UN has told them that any solution will be a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

The UN has also told you to comply with it's resolutions. And what did you do? You pissed on them!

So go ahead and do the same.....tell the world you do not want to resolve the situation the UN way for a second time if you dare...

The Annan plan was a solution PLAN you idiot! not a resolution!

[Sotos]

So go ahead and do the same.....tell the world you do not want to resolve the situation the UN way for a second time if you dare...

If you were interested in the “UN way” you would start from here…

http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

…but you’re clearly NOT, so don’t give me this “UN” shit pretending to be a law-abiding person when in actual fact you’re just a bunch of 2-cent criminals!

The RoC can accept and reject anything it wants and take its time over it, and there’s not a damn that the TCs or Turkey can do about it so go suck an egg!

Be my guest reject away.

We already did And we also rejected any more plans made by the Americans. So that ain't happening again. We are already in EU now So there will be nothing more to reject. Using EU we destroyed your "economy" of illegal sales of our land to foreigners. Soon we will destroy the economy of Turkey by ending their EU accession. Annan plan was a bluff and you fall for it idiots The whole point was for us to get in EU and then screw you and Turkey Now you beggars will have to start begging even more for financial help from EU and the IMF You think we are rushing to surrender to you with some fucked up solution? You are so wrong. We will take our time fucking you and THEN when the time is right will come to finish you off. "Surrender" is not a word in our dictionary.

[Viewpoint]

So go ahead and do the same.....tell the world you do not want to resolve the situation the UN way for a second time if you dare...

If you were interested in the “UN way” you would start from here…

http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

…but you’re clearly NOT, so don’t give me this “UN” shit pretending to be a law-abiding person when in actual fact you’re just a bunch of 2-cent criminals!

The RoC can accept and reject anything it wants and take its time over it, and there’s not a damn that the TCs or Turkey can do about it so go suck an egg!

Be my guest reject away.

We already did And we also rejected any more plans made by the Americans. So that ain't happening again. We are already in EU now So there will be nothing more to reject. Using EU we destroyed your "economy" of illegal sales of our land to foreigners. Soon we will destroy the economy of Turkey by ending their EU accession. Annan plan was a bluff and you fall for it idiots The whole point was for us to get in EU and then screw you and Turkey Now you beggars will have to start begging even more for financial help from EU and the IMF You think we are rushing to surrender to you with some fucked up solution? You are so wrong. We will take our time fucking you and THEN when the time is right will come to finish you off. "Surrender" is not a word in our dictionary.

Thank you for the truth.

[Viewpoint]

Good question Alpeis, if the desire and need was there the island would have been united ages ago. The TC 65% was for something the GCs do not regard as unification and proof in itself that TCs and GCs see the ideology of unificiation as 2 different things a plus for one side is a negative for the other so the chance of solving the Cyprus divide will never be resolved as long as GCs see themselves with a god given right to take the whole island and turn it into a GC state with TCs as just another minority. The UN has told them that any solution will be a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

All the Federal states in the USA are equal to each other in the upper house, in a True Democratic way, but that does not suit you, does it, not unless it is undemocratic, which is not what the UN said or the EU. You would prefer a AP type of a "solution" so that you don't have to have a democracy in Cyprus so that you can have a legal partition at your choosing. You think people are stupid and that they can't see right through you. That dream is gone, so sooner you want a BBF based on Democracy, Human Rights and International Law, you can have true peace, otherwise stop blowing smoke up peoples ass by making meaningless statements such as "The UN has told them that any solution will be a BBF with political equality of the 2 states". The truth is, you don't want a solution which will mean giving back all stolen GC properties, just because you think you are entitled to them. You are not going to get away with it this time by claming that the other side said NO to a peace solution, because it will be you who will be saying NO to a peace solution, just because it will be based on EU Principles and the UN charters. Be prepared for no sympathy from the world when you say NO, just because you want an undemocratic principle for a solution. It won't happen.!

So are you claiming the UN USA EU UK GREECE and TURKEY backed something that was undemocratic?

Let me add and if we say NO what will happen? isolation non recognition

Let me give you the same post I made to YFred today, since you are both stuck on that same worthless broken record.

Did I imagine it or did UN, USA, EU, Turkey, Britain and Greece all give their blessing to the Anan plan?

YES, you imagined it. Just because certain individuals from those institutions supported it for their own selfish and corrupted reasons, did not mean it was supported by those countries or institutions main body. But if you say they have supported it, then I suppose you will have no problem when they support it again, but this time under True Federation, True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws, which all these principles lacked in the Annan Plan. Only Morally Corrupted individuals would have supported the AP, and we all know who they are, including all those here on the forum.!

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... ht=#465198

Let me add and if we say NO what will happen? isolation non recognition

If you want the non recognition to continue along with isolation, why is Talat negotiating if you like it so much the way things are. Why all the complaints that you don’t have anything to do with the outside world officially and only in limited way in what you do have. Oh, let me guess, because both Turkey and Talat have deadlines and the sale of GC properties has dried up.!

So what you are saying is, you will NOT accept peace based on Democracy, Human Rights, International Laws, EU Principles and UN Charter for sovereign nations. To bad, because that's what's on offer and all the countries and institutions you have mentioned above will also support the above, even Turkey, kicking and screaming, if she wants the EU that badly.

I will respond as I did to you in another post;

Again I have to remind you that it is not the knife of democracy that is the problem but the corrupt GC surgeon who weilds that knife at the throat of the TC minority on the surgery table that makes us fight for survival.

PLus you are totally wrong the few individuals you so clamly talk down are democratically elected leaders who have the right to express that countrys stance on such a matter as the AP.

[Sotos]

So go ahead and do the same.....tell the world you do not want to resolve the situation the UN way for a second time if you dare...

If you were interested in the “UN way” you would start from here…

http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm

…but you’re clearly NOT, so don’t give me this “UN” shit pretending to be a law-abiding person when in actual fact you’re just a bunch of 2-cent criminals!

The RoC can accept and reject anything it wants and take its time over it, and there’s not a damn that the TCs or Turkey can do about it so go suck an egg!

Be my guest reject away.

We already did And we also rejected any more plans made by the Americans. So that ain't happening again. We are already in EU now So there will be nothing more to reject. Using EU we destroyed your "economy" of illegal sales of our land to foreigners. Soon we will destroy the economy of Turkey by ending their EU accession. Annan plan was a bluff and you fall for it idiots The whole point was for us to get in EU and then screw you and Turkey Now you beggars will have to start begging even more for financial help from EU and the IMF You think we are rushing to surrender to you with some fucked up solution? You are so wrong. We will take our time fucking you and THEN when the time is right will come to finish you off. "Surrender" is not a word in our dictionary.

Thank you for the truth.

You are welcome. As you see there are many legal way to screw criminals like you You thought we wouldn't use them? There is only one way for peace. That is to take all your troops and all your settlers out of our island and give us back what you stole. If you don't do that then the war will go on until we will win it. And as you can see from our standards of living we can fight this war in much a more comfortable way than you beggar losers.