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[Oracle]

One more thing to point out. As far as I see no GCs criticize themselves. Is it because you are perfect humans and do not do any mistakes? You should also change this attitude if you really want to unite with the TC community...

I know we should; because of course it is the Turks who are superior.

Meanwhile, perhaps you should read this (prepared by TCs I am told):

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 02&start=0

[Alpeis]

One more thing to point out. As far as I see no GCs criticize themselves. Is it because you are perfect humans and do not do any mistakes? You should also change this attitude if you really want to unite with the TC community...

I know we should; because of course it is the Turks who are superior.

Meanwhile, perhaps you should read this (prepared by TCs I am told):

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 02&start=0

Actually I should have also included Turkish

[kurupetos]

One more thing to point out. As far as I see no GCs criticize themselves. Is it because you are perfect humans and do not do any mistakes? You should also change this attitude if you really want to unite with the TC community...

We are perfect human beings and do not do any mistakes, unless they are traffic violations and environmental issues related. We will not change one iota.

Turkey/TCs have started to bend over, slowly but steadily. Justice will prevail sooner or later...

[Viewpoint]

Good question Alpeis, if the desire and need was there the island would have been united ages ago. The TC 65% was for something the GCs do not regard as unification and proof in itself that TCs and GCs see the ideology of unificiation as 2 different things a plus for one side is a negative for the other so the chance of solving the Cyprus divide will never be resolved as long as GCs see themselves with a god given right to take the whole island and turn it into a GC state with TCs as just another minority. The UN has told them that any solution will be a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

[kurupetos]

Good question Alpeis, if the desire and need was there the island would have been united ages ago. The TC 65% was for something the GCs do not regard as unification and proof in itself that TCs and GCs see the ideology of unificiation as 2 different things a plus for one side is a negative for the other so the chance of solving the Cyprus divide will never be resolved as long as GCs see themselves with a god given right to take the whole island and turn it into a GC state with TCs as just another minority. The UN has told them that any solution will be a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

The UN has also told you to comply with it's resolutions. And what did you do? You pissed on them!

[Viewpoint]

Good question Alpeis, if the desire and need was there the island would have been united ages ago. The TC 65% was for something the GCs do not regard as unification and proof in itself that TCs and GCs see the ideology of unificiation as 2 different things a plus for one side is a negative for the other so the chance of solving the Cyprus divide will never be resolved as long as GCs see themselves with a god given right to take the whole island and turn it into a GC state with TCs as just another minority. The UN has told them that any solution will be a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

The UN has also told you to comply with it's resolutions. And what did you do? You pissed on them!

So go ahead and do the same.....tell the world you do not want to resolve the situation the UN way for a second time if you dare...

[Alpeis]

Good question Alpeis, if the desire and need was there the island would have been united ages ago. The TC 65% was for something the GCs do not regard as unification and proof in itself that TCs and GCs see the ideology of unificiation as 2 different things a plus for one side is a negative for the other so the chance of solving the Cyprus divide will never be resolved as long as GCs see themselves with a god given right to take the whole island and turn it into a GC state with TCs as just another minority. The UN has told them that any solution will be a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

The UN has also told you to comply with it's resolutions. And what did you do? You pissed on them!

So go ahead and do the same.....tell the world you do not want to resolve the situation the UN way for a second time if you dare...

[Kikapu]

Good question Alpeis, if the desire and need was there the island would have been united ages ago. The TC 65% was for something the GCs do not regard as unification and proof in itself that TCs and GCs see the ideology of unificiation as 2 different things a plus for one side is a negative for the other so the chance of solving the Cyprus divide will never be resolved as long as GCs see themselves with a god given right to take the whole island and turn it into a GC state with TCs as just another minority. The UN has told them that any solution will be a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

All the Federal states in the USA are equal to each other in the upper house, in a True Democratic way, but that does not suit you, does it, not unless it is undemocratic, which is not what the UN said or the EU. You would prefer a AP type of a "solution" so that you don't have to have a democracy in Cyprus so that you can have a legal partition at your choosing. You think people are stupid and that they can't see right through you. That dream is gone, so sooner you want a BBF based on Democracy, Human Rights and International Law, you can have true peace, otherwise stop blowing smoke up peoples ass by making meaningless statements such as "The UN has told them that any solution will be a BBF with political equality of the 2 states". The truth is, you don't want a solution which will mean giving back all stolen GC properties, just because you think you are entitled to them. You are not going to get away with it this time by claming that the other side said NO to a peace solution, because it will be you who will be saying NO to a peace solution, just because it will be based on EU Principles and the UN charters. Be prepared for no sympathy from the world when you say NO, just because you want an undemocratic principle for a solution. It won't happen.!

[Viewpoint]

Good question Alpeis, if the desire and need was there the island would have been united ages ago. The TC 65% was for something the GCs do not regard as unification and proof in itself that TCs and GCs see the ideology of unificiation as 2 different things a plus for one side is a negative for the other so the chance of solving the Cyprus divide will never be resolved as long as GCs see themselves with a god given right to take the whole island and turn it into a GC state with TCs as just another minority. The UN has told them that any solution will be a BBF with political equality of the 2 states.

All the Federal states in the USA are equal to each other in the upper house, in a True Democratic way, but that does not suit you, does it, not unless it is undemocratic, which is not what the UN said or the EU. You would prefer a AP type of a "solution" so that you don't have to have a democracy in Cyprus so that you can have a legal partition at your choosing. You think people are stupid and that they can't see right through you. That dream is gone, so sooner you want a BBF based on Democracy, Human Rights and International Law, you can have true peace, otherwise stop blowing smoke up peoples ass by making meaningless statements such as "The UN has told them that any solution will be a BBF with political equality of the 2 states". The truth is, you don't want a solution which will mean giving back all stolen GC properties, just because you think you are entitled to them. You are not going to get away with it this time by claming that the other side said NO to a peace solution, because it will be you who will be saying NO to a peace solution, just because it will be based on EU Principles and the UN charters. Be prepared for no sympathy from the world when you say NO, just because you want an undemocratic principle for a solution. It won't happen.!

So are you claiming the UN USA EU UK GREECE and TURKEY backed something that was undemocratic?

Let me add and if we say NO what will happen? isolation non recognition

[Kikapu]

My question is only to GC friends. Why do you want to unite with the North? Please, exclude the property issue

On the other hand, I haven't met even one single TC who has an enthusiasm to unite with the South!!! They look ok with the present situation...

Alpeis,

As a TC I was not going to respond, in keeping with your wish that this question must be answered by the GCs, but then when you added the second sentence above where you claim NO TCs want to unify with the GCs, which is absolutely false, except for the ones who are rolling in Haram money with the GCs properties, I have reached the conclusion that you are nothing but a mouth piece for the puppet regime in the north by making such statement as you did above. Your whole appearance here on the forum has been about that, no matter how you have on occasions been taking swipes at the military and to Turks in general, but you have moved your position a lot since your initial post only couple of days ago. I don't even buy into your so called "love story" to a GC girl. You are here with an agenda and no one is falling for it, least of all me, a TC who does want to unify the island, but regardless, I'm still looking forward in reading your Harlequin Romance Novel, "The Turk and the GC Girl", love at first sight in your first six months in the north.! Sell your story to whom ever wants to buy it, but don't try to sell it here, because you will go broke.!

By the way, where the hell on God’s Earth have you picked up that awful American slang word "DUDE" that you like to use so much.? It is hardly a word used by any Intellectuals in America, let alone an Intellectual from Turkey.!

I couldn't get your point. Besides, my stance hasn't changed at all!
As to my girlfriend, I said Greek not GC...Perhaps your perception is changing, not my stance...

Alpeis, you can play stupid all you want with me, because it is the only way that you can be safe here in what you write, since it is your claimed being an Intellectual that has gotten you in trouble so far.!