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Troops from Turkey - for the love of God GO!

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby ufokaradagli » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:52 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Why should the troops leave? .


Why not ask the TCs who set up the petition:

http://www.turkishinvasioncyprus.com/co ... hp?lang=en


How do you know they are TCs?


I can prove that to you...


Go ahead.



How do we know you are a TC?
I'm the creator...

How do we know you are a TC?


Ne demem lazm da annayasn?


Anyone can write that...and its not possible to prove you are either a GC or a TC over the forum.

Let me ask you why you created such a site? and how do you know those signing the petition are TCs? and not GCs in disguise?


I created it because of the reasons i wrote in the homepage which made me feel so bad about the invasion... I wrote the information in homepage first in English then translated it into Turkish... and im living in invaded North... for the reasons i listed in the site i may go live in the south and also to be able to say my feelings easier...

I know they're TCs because I invited most of them from facebook to the site... They weren't my friends but these people who want invasion to end are so easy to find, when you want the invasion to end too...
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Postby The Cypriot » Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:59 pm

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Anyone can write that...and its not possible to prove you are either a GC or a TC over the forum.

Let me ask you why you created such a site? and how do you know those signing the petition are TCs? and not GCs in disguise?


Anyone can write that... and it's not possible to prove you are either a TC or an agent of Turkey's military over the forum.

Let me ask you why you object to such a site - and what have you to gain from questioning a petition that Cypriots from both sides of the divide might be willing to sign?


I am not objecting to the petition everyone is free to do what they wish what I do question is GC propoganda, they are so experiencied in the matter that they can pay anyone to say anything doesnt make it right.


But, by the same token, how does anyone know whether Turkey's military isn't paying you to produce their propaganda, VP? They are so experiencied in the matter that they can pay anyone to say anything - doesn't make it right.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:46 pm

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Anyone can write that...and its not possible to prove you are either a GC or a TC over the forum.

Let me ask you why you created such a site? and how do you know those signing the petition are TCs? and not GCs in disguise?


Anyone can write that... and it's not possible to prove you are either a TC or an agent of Turkey's military over the forum.

Let me ask you why you object to such a site - and what have you to gain from questioning a petition that Cypriots from both sides of the divide might be willing to sign?


I am not objecting to the petition everyone is free to do what they wish what I do question is GC propoganda, they are so experiencied in the matter that they can pay anyone to say anything doesnt make it right.


But, by the same token, how does anyone know whether Turkey's military isn't paying you to produce their propaganda, VP? They are so experiencied in the matter that they can pay anyone to say anything - doesn't make it right.


Correct and I do not deny you the right to see it that way but you must not deny me my right to dismiss this petition.
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Postby kurupetos » Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:50 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Anyone can write that...and its not possible to prove you are either a GC or a TC over the forum.

Let me ask you why you created such a site? and how do you know those signing the petition are TCs? and not GCs in disguise?


Anyone can write that... and it's not possible to prove you are either a TC or an agent of Turkey's military over the forum.

Let me ask you why you object to such a site - and what have you to gain from questioning a petition that Cypriots from both sides of the divide might be willing to sign?


I am not objecting to the petition everyone is free to do what they wish what I do question is GC propoganda, they are so experiencied in the matter that they can pay anyone to say anything doesnt make it right.


But, by the same token, how does anyone know whether Turkey's military isn't paying you to produce their propaganda, VP? They are so experiencied in the matter that they can pay anyone to say anything - doesn't make it right.


No, I doubt it. He is stupid enough to do it for free! :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:54 pm

kurupetos wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Anyone can write that...and its not possible to prove you are either a GC or a TC over the forum.

Let me ask you why you created such a site? and how do you know those signing the petition are TCs? and not GCs in disguise?


Anyone can write that... and it's not possible to prove you are either a TC or an agent of Turkey's military over the forum.

Let me ask you why you object to such a site - and what have you to gain from questioning a petition that Cypriots from both sides of the divide might be willing to sign?


I am not objecting to the petition everyone is free to do what they wish what I do question is GC propoganda, they are so experiencied in the matter that they can pay anyone to say anything doesnt make it right.


But, by the same token, how does anyone know whether Turkey's military isn't paying you to produce their propaganda, VP? They are so experiencied in the matter that they can pay anyone to say anything - doesn't make it right.


No, I doubt it. He is stupid enough to do it for free! :lol:


Why do you say I am stupid? shall I call you a moron? where will it get us? my opinion differs from yours because my viewpoint is from this side of the divide and as I respect yours you should respect mine....dont forget your side also contirbuted to the divide of today or do you also believe all our troubles started in 1974? or let me guess you or your family were silence during our suffering I bet you werent calling your eoka terrorists stupid for killing innocent TCs.
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Postby The Cypriot » Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:54 pm

Only an agent of Turkey's military would dismiss the petition out of hand as you have, vp.

The same military that denies Cypriots, on both sides of the current divide, their human rights.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jul 04, 2009 7:56 pm

The Cypriot wrote:Only an agent of Turkey's military would dismiss the peition out of hand as you have, vp.

The same military that denies Cypriots, on both sides of the current divide, their human rights.


Until a solution is found to the mess you also contributed to.
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Postby The Cypriot » Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:01 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
The Cypriot wrote:Only an agent of Turkey's military would dismiss the peition out of hand as you have, vp.

The same military that denies Cypriots, on both sides of the current divide, their human rights.


Until a solution is found to the mess you also contributed to.


I made no contribution to the mess whatsoever. Nor do I contribute, as you do, to the continuation of the mess.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:18 pm

The Cypriot wrote:
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The Cypriot wrote:Only an agent of Turkey's military would dismiss the peition out of hand as you have, vp.

The same military that denies Cypriots, on both sides of the current divide, their human rights.


Until a solution is found to the mess you also contributed to.


I made no contribution to the mess whatsoever. Nor do I contribute, as you do, to the continuation of the mess.


You as in the GCs and it was the GCs that rejected the last attempt to resolve the situation and today this day are rigid enough not to have addressed the problems with EU ideology of flexiblity and compromise, and before you say it you guys claim you are fully fledged Europeans not us yet you act like the syubboen donkeys you are and not the race horse you claim to be.
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Postby The Cypriot » Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:44 pm

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You as in the GCs


I am a Cypriot and I am an individual. I am not guilty of anyone else's crimes. Only a fascist would endorse the meting out of collective punishment to a whole group of innocent people for the misdemeanours of a few others.

Viewpoint wrote:and it was the GCs that rejected the last attempt to resolve the situation


The vast majority of the Cypriot people, taken as a whole, rejected the Annan Plan because they didn't see it as a solution plan. That's democracy for you. Don't you believe in democracy? Is that why you are happy to accept Turkey's military trampling over Cypriots' human rights, on both sides of the current divide?

Viewpoint wrote: and today this day are rigid enough not to have addressed the problems with EU ideology of flexiblity and compromise,


Now you've lost me. It's exactly because Cypriots in the free part of the island are insisting on EU ideology that results in the problems not being addressed. Because Turkey's military, whose presence you endorse, won't allow EU ideology for the north. That's why we have to rely on ECJ for justice in other EU countries where EU ideology does apply.


Viewpoint wrote:and before you say it you guys claim you are fully fledged Europeans not us yet you act like the syubboen donkeys you are and not the race horse you claim to be.


I have never claimed to be a racehorse. I am a proud donkey. And if I'm stubborn, that's down to hundreds of years of foreign exploitation and domination.
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