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Troops from Turkey - for the love of God GO!

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby ufokaradagli » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:35 am

Alpeis wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Alpeis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
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ufokaradagli wrote:I want our island to be all united without any states... i think its not possible for TCs to have independent state... they will be dependent to Turkey at the end...

:shock: A Turkish Cypriot with common sense... now that's a rare find! :lol:

Ufokaradagli is not alone , there are thousands of our compatriots who share his views , the indigenous to Cyprus T/Cs are fed up with the continued isolation and Turkification of a part of our island , it is up to us the G/Cs to ensure that the T/Cs understand that there is but one solution to our Cyprob , and that is the removal of all troops and the unification of our island as one people , one proud Cypriot race without majorities and minorities . I can still be a G/C and Deniz can still be a T/C , but together we are Cypriots first and foremost.


Why don't you take a step by removing isolations on Cyprus to show your sincerity? ;)


thats an easy one...turkey doesn't want us to remove nothing coz if the RoC did turkey would lose the grip....

Ask yourself why not a single football team ever staged a friendly in the north...

they are your long lost cousins aren't they....they came to save you didn't tthey?...they pick up the tap don't they?,,,why not play football with you then... 8)

It sounds to me turkey is embargoing you to the max...

the tcs have a 70,000,000 people market, and turkey pinned your back to the ground...


I am Turkish not Tc however it doesn't matter what I am. :) I don't agree with the idea that Turkey is embargoing North Cyprus since she has long been financing the North ;)

not really financing as she have 500thousand people in north getting free education and free health services from the government in the north...
as we stated in the site...
also turkey do most export to north cyprus...

turkey gets the double of what she gives!
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Postby boomerang » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:37 am

Alpeis wrote:It's easy to say Turkish Army should leave but TCs still cannot agree on this. Besides, I don't think they can agree since not everyone has the same opinion. As far as I see, many TCs don't trust GCs and perhaps the same issue holds place in the South. This lack of trust is the main obstacle leading to ideas that Turkish Arm should stay...

As I always say: People of both sides should first unite in minds; in other words, attain the trust between each other.

When I say you should take a step, some responds as Turkish Army should leave first. But I think it won't work this way. If these are your own people you must remove the isolations and hug them. Why are you punishing them because of Turkish Army's presence? First back each other and then ask the army to leave...


do you actually think turkey gives a shit about the tcs?....let me remind you as to what donkeytosh said...

even if there was no tcs in Cyrpus turkey would have invaded...

but I can see how you sidestepped my post above yours...
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Postby Alpeis » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:53 am

boomerang wrote:
Alpeis wrote:It's easy to say Turkish Army should leave but TCs still cannot agree on this. Besides, I don't think they can agree since not everyone has the same opinion. As far as I see, many TCs don't trust GCs and perhaps the same issue holds place in the South. This lack of trust is the main obstacle leading to ideas that Turkish Arm should stay...

As I always say: People of both sides should first unite in minds; in other words, attain the trust between each other.

When I say you should take a step, some responds as Turkish Army should leave first. But I think it won't work this way. If these are your own people you must remove the isolations and hug them. Why are you punishing them because of Turkish Army's presence? First back each other and then ask the army to leave...


do you actually think turkey gives a shit about the tcs?....let me remind you as to what donkeytosh said...

even if there was no tcs in Cyrpus turkey would have invaded...

but I can see how you sidestepped my post above yours...


I don't agree with the idea that even if there were no TCs in Cyprus Turkey would have invaded. Let's just leave these since they are no more than hypothesis.

As to your question, I don't think Turkey cares TCs. Cyprus was and is just a political tool...

On the other hand, check below:
Turkish President Abdullah Gul said "if the Greek Cyprus said yes to the United Nations' Annan Plan, Turkish Army would have left the Cyprus island".

Of course they will leave, what the **** they will do here if you unite!
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Postby ufokaradagli » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:09 am

Alpeis wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Alpeis wrote:It's easy to say Turkish Army should leave but TCs still cannot agree on this. Besides, I don't think they can agree since not everyone has the same opinion. As far as I see, many TCs don't trust GCs and perhaps the same issue holds place in the South. This lack of trust is the main obstacle leading to ideas that Turkish Arm should stay...

As I always say: People of both sides should first unite in minds; in other words, attain the trust between each other.

When I say you should take a step, some responds as Turkish Army should leave first. But I think it won't work this way. If these are your own people you must remove the isolations and hug them. Why are you punishing them because of Turkish Army's presence? First back each other and then ask the army to leave...


do you actually think turkey gives a shit about the tcs?....let me remind you as to what donkeytosh said...

even if there was no tcs in Cyrpus turkey would have invaded...

but I can see how you sidestepped my post above yours...


I don't agree with the idea that even if there were no TCs in Cyprus Turkey would have invaded. Let's just leave these since they are no more than hypothesis.

As to your question, I don't think Turkey cares TCs. Cyprus was and is just a political tool...

On the other hand, check below:
Turkish President Abdullah Gul said "if the Greek Cyprus said yes to the United Nations' Annan Plan, Turkish Army would have left the Cyprus island".

Of course they will leave, what the **** they will do here if you unite!

I guess they still think Cyprus belong to them from Ottomans...
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Postby Alpeis » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:23 am

ufokaradagli wrote:
Alpeis wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Alpeis wrote:It's easy to say Turkish Army should leave but TCs still cannot agree on this. Besides, I don't think they can agree since not everyone has the same opinion. As far as I see, many TCs don't trust GCs and perhaps the same issue holds place in the South. This lack of trust is the main obstacle leading to ideas that Turkish Arm should stay...

As I always say: People of both sides should first unite in minds; in other words, attain the trust between each other.

When I say you should take a step, some responds as Turkish Army should leave first. But I think it won't work this way. If these are your own people you must remove the isolations and hug them. Why are you punishing them because of Turkish Army's presence? First back each other and then ask the army to leave...


do you actually think turkey gives a shit about the tcs?....let me remind you as to what donkeytosh said...

even if there was no tcs in Cyrpus turkey would have invaded...

but I can see how you sidestepped my post above yours...


I don't agree with the idea that even if there were no TCs in Cyprus Turkey would have invaded. Let's just leave these since they are no more than hypothesis.

As to your question, I don't think Turkey cares TCs. Cyprus was and is just a political tool...

On the other hand, check below:
Turkish President Abdullah Gul said "if the Greek Cyprus said yes to the United Nations' Annan Plan, Turkish Army would have left the Cyprus island".

Of course they will leave, what the **** they will do here if you unite!

I guess they still think Cyprus belong to them from Ottomans...


If you were not Turkish, I wouldn't be surprised with this comment. Do you think that Turkish still consider themselves as Ottomans? Ottoman era was over a hundred years ago.
There are some idiots who still consider themselves as Ottomans as there are idiots who consider İstanbul or Cyprus is Greek! There is no difference between their mongolism. Just nations differ. Actually there are idiots in every nation :lol:
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Postby Alpeis » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:36 am

ufokaradagli wrote:
Alpeis wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Alpeis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
ufokaradagli wrote:I want our island to be all united without any states... i think its not possible for TCs to have independent state... they will be dependent to Turkey at the end...

:shock: A Turkish Cypriot with common sense... now that's a rare find! :lol:

Ufokaradagli is not alone , there are thousands of our compatriots who share his views , the indigenous to Cyprus T/Cs are fed up with the continued isolation and Turkification of a part of our island , it is up to us the G/Cs to ensure that the T/Cs understand that there is but one solution to our Cyprob , and that is the removal of all troops and the unification of our island as one people , one proud Cypriot race without majorities and minorities . I can still be a G/C and Deniz can still be a T/C , but together we are Cypriots first and foremost.


Why don't you take a step by removing isolations on Cyprus to show your sincerity? ;)


thats an easy one...turkey doesn't want us to remove nothing coz if the RoC did turkey would lose the grip....

Ask yourself why not a single football team ever staged a friendly in the north...

they are your long lost cousins aren't they....they came to save you didn't tthey?...they pick up the tap don't they?,,,why not play football with you then... 8)

It sounds to me turkey is embargoing you to the max...

the tcs have a 70,000,000 people market, and turkey pinned your back to the ground...


I am Turkish not Tc however it doesn't matter what I am. :) I don't agree with the idea that Turkey is embargoing North Cyprus since she has long been financing the North ;)

not really financing as she have 500thousand people in north getting free education and free health services from the government in the north...
as we stated in the site...
also turkey do most export to north cyprus...

turkey gets the double of what she gives!


I haven't checked your site in detail but I definitely think you are wrong on the idea that Turkey gets double of what she gives.

Check the link below:
http://www.arenagazetesi.com.tr/default ... ar&id=2116
I assume you already know these but can't understand some of your claims ;)
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Postby boomerang » Sun Jul 05, 2009 4:40 am

Alpeis wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Alpeis wrote:It's easy to say Turkish Army should leave but TCs still cannot agree on this. Besides, I don't think they can agree since not everyone has the same opinion. As far as I see, many TCs don't trust GCs and perhaps the same issue holds place in the South. This lack of trust is the main obstacle leading to ideas that Turkish Arm should stay...

As I always say: People of both sides should first unite in minds; in other words, attain the trust between each other.

When I say you should take a step, some responds as Turkish Army should leave first. But I think it won't work this way. If these are your own people you must remove the isolations and hug them. Why are you punishing them because of Turkish Army's presence? First back each other and then ask the army to leave...


do you actually think turkey gives a shit about the tcs?....let me remind you as to what donkeytosh said...

even if there was no tcs in Cyrpus turkey would have invaded...

but I can see how you sidestepped my post above yours...


I don't agree with the idea that even if there were no TCs in Cyprus Turkey would have invaded. Let's just leave these since they are no more than hypothesis.

As to your question, I don't think Turkey cares TCs. Cyprus was and is just a political tool...

On the other hand, check below:
Turkish President Abdullah Gul said "if the Greek Cyprus said yes to the United Nations' Annan Plan, Turkish Army would have left the Cyprus island".

Of course they will leave, what the **** they will do here if you unite!


gul's comment was salad dressing....have you actually read and comprehended the anan plan?...

tukrey would have gotten more rights over cyprus with this plan...

ofcourse gul ain't about to tell you this now is he?...same with the brits....it's called consolidation to the nth degree...in short thats what the anan plan was....
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Postby ufokaradagli » Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:43 am

Alpeis wrote:
ufokaradagli wrote:
Alpeis wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Alpeis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
ufokaradagli wrote:I want our island to be all united without any states... i think its not possible for TCs to have independent state... they will be dependent to Turkey at the end...

:shock: A Turkish Cypriot with common sense... now that's a rare find! :lol:

Ufokaradagli is not alone , there are thousands of our compatriots who share his views , the indigenous to Cyprus T/Cs are fed up with the continued isolation and Turkification of a part of our island , it is up to us the G/Cs to ensure that the T/Cs understand that there is but one solution to our Cyprob , and that is the removal of all troops and the unification of our island as one people , one proud Cypriot race without majorities and minorities . I can still be a G/C and Deniz can still be a T/C , but together we are Cypriots first and foremost.


Why don't you take a step by removing isolations on Cyprus to show your sincerity? ;)


thats an easy one...turkey doesn't want us to remove nothing coz if the RoC did turkey would lose the grip....

Ask yourself why not a single football team ever staged a friendly in the north...

they are your long lost cousins aren't they....they came to save you didn't tthey?...they pick up the tap don't they?,,,why not play football with you then... 8)

It sounds to me turkey is embargoing you to the max...

the tcs have a 70,000,000 people market, and turkey pinned your back to the ground...


I am Turkish not Tc however it doesn't matter what I am. :) I don't agree with the idea that Turkey is embargoing North Cyprus since she has long been financing the North ;)

not really financing as she have 500thousand people in north getting free education and free health services from the government in the north...
as we stated in the site...
also turkey do most export to north cyprus...

turkey gets the double of what she gives!


I haven't checked your site in detail but I definitely think you are wrong on the idea that Turkey gets double of what she gives.

Check the link below:
http://www.arenagazetesi.com.tr/default ... ar&id=2116
I assume you already know these but can't understand some of your claims ;)

Yep, i already know those...
what i said there, were the settlers coming from turkey (500thousand)


you can see how much money goes back to Turkey by importing
http://www.igemekktc.gov.tr/tur/KKTC_2009.pdf page 25
for english:
http://www.igemekktc.gov.tr/istatistik_ ... istics.XLS
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Postby Oracle » Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:53 am

denizaksulu wrote:
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denizaksulu wrote:Napan re gardash? Foruma hosgeldin. Siten'den dolayi seni tebrik ederim.

eyiyim re... hosbulduk.. saolasing :)


Will you stop with all that Turkish! :roll:

Not Turkish :) Gibrizlija :D:D


How old are you?

Why do you need that?



Oracle wants to do a 'Madonna' on you :lol:


Are you protecting VP from his paedophile predilections perhaps?



I cannot understand for the life of me why you will make inane comments as above. Just because one has opposing views does not give you any right to make such comments.

I was commenting on your desire to adopt our UFO as I saw you warming up to him. God help him. :roll:


The reason I made this comment (based on VP's request for ufokaradagli's age) was precisely because of the stupid associations (Madonna) you draw upon every time I exchange with someone in a friendly manner. Your derailments in this way are repetitive and counterproductive.

Now, reflect on how offensive/unwanted your sexist remarks are, in light of my having to spell it out to you, and cut it out!

(Please do not reply to this; just adhere to my request).
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Postby The Cypriot » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:16 am

Alpeis wrote: If these are your own people you must remove the isolations and hug them. Why are you punishing them because of Turkish Army's presence? First back each other and then ask the army to leave...


It is Turkey's army's presence that is punishing Cypriots in the north. Nothing else.

There is no trade that cannot be undertaken legitimately, through legitimate ports of entry. There is no activity – business, artistic, social, sporting, 'hugging' or anything else – a legitimate Cypriot citizen is not entitled to participate in through official Cypriot channels. And if unofficial barriers remain, these can and should be challenged legally. For that is how civilised people secure justice in the 21st century.

It is the upgrading of Turkey's subordinate regime and any of its 'institutions', through direct involvement with the civilised world, that simply cannot and will not be countenanced.

Drop it. You are not going to make anyone free of Turkey's iron grip guilty.
Only Turkey's military is guilty.

Cypriots backed each other before foreigners came to exploit them and steal their land. They will do so again when the foreigners have been repelled and their land returned.
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