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Troops from Turkey - for the love of God GO!

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby ufokaradagli » Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:45 am

Alpeis wrote:
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denizaksulu wrote:
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denizaksulu wrote:Napan re gardash? Foruma hosgeldin. Siten'den dolayi seni tebrik ederim.

eyiyim re... hosbulduk.. saolasing :)



Re ama oyle gonuşung sankı da köylüyük!!

:D


Hi karadagli!
As to your site http://www.turkishinvasioncyprus.com , I wonder whether it's a criminal act. Do you have any idea?


i dont think so... its a petition and it includes no racist comments, we wrote nothing insulting the governors in the north.. but if it is i will be first to be put jail.. :)
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Postby Alpeis » Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:46 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXh2i93H ... re=related

It's not related to the issue although the link ends with the word "related" :P Just nice one to relax ;)
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Postby ufokaradagli » Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:51 am

Alpeis wrote:
Alpeis wrote:
ufokaradagli wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
ufokaradagli wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Napan re gardash? Foruma hosgeldin. Siten'den dolayi seni tebrik ederim.

eyiyim re... hosbulduk.. saolasing :)



Re ama oyle gonuşung sankı da köylüyük!!

:D


Hi karadagli!
As to your site http://www.turkishinvasioncyprus.com, I wonder whether it's a criminal act. Do you have any idea?


Forget it, it was a misunderstanding of mine ;) Perhaps you remember the case I am just quoting below:

Aralarında siyasi partilerin de bulunduğu örgüt ve sendikalardan oluşan 12 kuruluş, gençlerin tutuklanmasını ve evlerinin aranmasını “polis terörü” olarak niteleyerek sert tepki gösterdi... Duvarlara yazı yazan gençlerin siyasi suçlu sayılamayacağını vurgulayan örgütler, “Bunu kabul etmiyoruz ve aynı talebi bizim de kabul ettiğimizi beyan eder, suç ortağı olduğumuzu deklere ederiz” dediler...
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Rejim gençlerin yakasına yapıştı... Kamu malına zarara en ağır ceza

Duvarlara yazı yazdıkları için tutuklanan gençler “kamu malına kasti hasar” yapmakla suçlandı... Gençler 10 bin YTL şahsi kefalet ve yurtdışı yasağı kararından sonra tutuksuz yargılanmak üzere serbest bırakıldı.

Anyways, congratulations nice web site ;)


i thought you were talking about facebook case, which 3 youths were put in jail...

and thanks...
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Postby miltiades » Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:19 am

Alpeis wrote:
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ufokaradagli wrote:I want our island to be all united without any states... i think its not possible for TCs to have independent state... they will be dependent to Turkey at the end...

:shock: A Turkish Cypriot with common sense... now that's a rare find! :lol:

Ufokaradagli is not alone , there are thousands of our compatriots who share his views , the indigenous to Cyprus T/Cs are fed up with the continued isolation and Turkification of a part of our island , it is up to us the G/Cs to ensure that the T/Cs understand that there is but one solution to our Cyprob , and that is the removal of all troops and the unification of our island as one people , one proud Cypriot race without majorities and minorities . I can still be a G/C and Deniz can still be a T/C , but together we are Cypriots first and foremost.


Why don't you take a step by removing isolations on Cyprus to show your sincerity? ;)

Isolations , as you call it , are not applicable to Cyprus , again as you say.
Applicable to a part of Cyprus that is under the occupation of Turkey , a part of Cyprus that Turkey no matter how hard tries to promote as a separate state she will never succeed.The entire world and a very large percentage of the indigenous T/Cs recognise that this northern part of Cyprus is an integral part of Cyprus , isolation is purely there as a result of the continued occupation of a part my country and yours , I take it you are a T/C .
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Postby The Cypriot » Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:46 am

Alpeis wrote:Why don't you take a step by removing isolations on Cyprus to show your sincerity? ;)


Why doesn't Turkey's army take a step by removing their presence on Cyprus to show their sincerity? That would also remove your 'isolations' so all citizens of Cyprus will simultaneously be happy. ;)

Removing isolations before foreign soldiers leave means Cyprus and the whole world will accept the invasion, occupation and ethnic cleansing of one country by another. And Cyprus and the whole world can't do that.
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Postby boomerang » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:13 am

Alpeis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
ufokaradagli wrote:I want our island to be all united without any states... i think its not possible for TCs to have independent state... they will be dependent to Turkey at the end...

:shock: A Turkish Cypriot with common sense... now that's a rare find! :lol:

Ufokaradagli is not alone , there are thousands of our compatriots who share his views , the indigenous to Cyprus T/Cs are fed up with the continued isolation and Turkification of a part of our island , it is up to us the G/Cs to ensure that the T/Cs understand that there is but one solution to our Cyprob , and that is the removal of all troops and the unification of our island as one people , one proud Cypriot race without majorities and minorities . I can still be a G/C and Deniz can still be a T/C , but together we are Cypriots first and foremost.


Why don't you take a step by removing isolations on Cyprus to show your sincerity? ;)


thats an easy one...turkey doesn't want us to remove nothing coz if the RoC did turkey would lose the grip....

Ask yourself why not a single football team ever staged a friendly in the north...

they are your long lost cousins aren't they....they came to save you didn't tthey?...they pick up the tap don't they?,,,why not play football with you then... 8)

It sounds to me turkey is embargoing you to the max...

the tcs have a 70,000,000 people market, and turkey pinned your back to the ground...
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Postby ufokaradagli » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:17 am

The Cypriot wrote:
Alpeis wrote:Why don't you take a step by removing isolations on Cyprus to show your sincerity? ;)


Why doesn't Turkey's army take a step by removing their presence on Cyprus to show their sincerity? That would also remove your 'isolations' so all citizens of Cyprus will simultaneously be happy. ;)

Removing isolations before foreign soldiers leave means Cyprus and the whole world will accept the invasion, occupation and ethnic cleansing of one country by another. And Cyprus and the whole world can't do that.

i agree..
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Postby Alpeis » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:18 am

boomerang wrote:
Alpeis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
ufokaradagli wrote:I want our island to be all united without any states... i think its not possible for TCs to have independent state... they will be dependent to Turkey at the end...

:shock: A Turkish Cypriot with common sense... now that's a rare find! :lol:

Ufokaradagli is not alone , there are thousands of our compatriots who share his views , the indigenous to Cyprus T/Cs are fed up with the continued isolation and Turkification of a part of our island , it is up to us the G/Cs to ensure that the T/Cs understand that there is but one solution to our Cyprob , and that is the removal of all troops and the unification of our island as one people , one proud Cypriot race without majorities and minorities . I can still be a G/C and Deniz can still be a T/C , but together we are Cypriots first and foremost.


Why don't you take a step by removing isolations on Cyprus to show your sincerity? ;)


thats an easy one...turkey doesn't want us to remove nothing coz if the RoC did turkey would lose the grip....

Ask yourself why not a single football team ever staged a friendly in the north...

they are your long lost cousins aren't they....they came to save you didn't tthey?...they pick up the tap don't they?,,,why not play football with you then... 8)

It sounds to me turkey is embargoing you to the max...

the tcs have a 70,000,000 people market, and turkey pinned your back to the ground...


I am Turkish not Tc however it doesn't matter what I am. :) I don't agree with the idea that Turkey is embargoing North Cyprus since she has long been financing the North ;)
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Postby boomerang » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:21 am

Alpeis wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Alpeis wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
ufokaradagli wrote:I want our island to be all united without any states... i think its not possible for TCs to have independent state... they will be dependent to Turkey at the end...

:shock: A Turkish Cypriot with common sense... now that's a rare find! :lol:

Ufokaradagli is not alone , there are thousands of our compatriots who share his views , the indigenous to Cyprus T/Cs are fed up with the continued isolation and Turkification of a part of our island , it is up to us the G/Cs to ensure that the T/Cs understand that there is but one solution to our Cyprob , and that is the removal of all troops and the unification of our island as one people , one proud Cypriot race without majorities and minorities . I can still be a G/C and Deniz can still be a T/C , but together we are Cypriots first and foremost.


Why don't you take a step by removing isolations on Cyprus to show your sincerity? ;)


thats an easy one...turkey doesn't want us to remove nothing coz if the RoC did turkey would lose the grip....

Ask yourself why not a single football team ever staged a friendly in the north...

they are your long lost cousins aren't they....they came to save you didn't tthey?...they pick up the tap don't they?,,,why not play football with you then... 8)

It sounds to me turkey is embargoing you to the max...

the tcs have a 70,000,000 people market, and turkey pinned your back to the ground...


I am Turkish not Tc however it doesn't matter what I am. :) I don't agree with the idea that Turkey is embargoing North Cyprus since she has long been financing the North ;)


then why not play a friendly?...it has been 35 years...and not a single friendly...what does this tell you...

with a 70,000,000 million people market the tcs should have been able to stand on their feet comfortably...but they live on handouts...go figure...
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Postby Alpeis » Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:34 am

It's easy to say Turkish Army should leave but TCs still cannot agree on this. Besides, I don't think they can agree since not everyone has the same opinion. As far as I see, many TCs don't trust GCs and perhaps the same issue holds place in the South. This lack of trust is the main obstacle leading to ideas that Turkish Arm should stay...

As I always say: People of both sides should first unite in minds; in other words, attain the trust between each other.

When I say you should take a step, some responds as Turkish Army should leave first. But I think it won't work this way. If these are your own people you must remove the isolations and hug them. Why are you punishing them because of Turkish Army's presence? First back each other and then ask the army to leave...
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