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Troops from Turkey - for the love of God GO!

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Postby bill cobbett » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:51 pm

The Cypriot wrote:Maintain the status quo?

From the site.

"Turkish Invasion of Cyprus Should End!"
We the undersigned wish to make known our demand that Turkey should withdraw all its troops from Cyprus and allow a "Solution for Cypriots by Cypriots".


Oracle, you really do my head in.

I hope you take the time to digest that before bothering me with any more of your nonsense.


As far as the petition from this cross comm group goes, surely 100 % worthy of our support.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:41 pm

The Cypriot wrote:Maintain the status quo?

From the site.

"Turkish Invasion of Cyprus Should End!"
We the undersigned wish to make known our demand that Turkey should withdraw all its troops from Cyprus and allow a "Solution for Cypriots by Cypriots".


Oracle, you really do my head in.

I hope you take the time to digest that before bothering me with any more of your nonsense.


It was that statement which I took as your fingerprint. :D A fine sentiment attached to, I'm afraid, not so fine a list of demands ....

My dear The Cypriot (can you drop the "The" ... it does my head in!) it is a well known fact that should you present someone with a list of demands, they will pick from them the immediately do-able (which are probably improving TC living conditions) and feel justified to leave the rest (i.e. tackling removing the Turkish Army).

So, as I said, cleverly produced to appeal to as many signatories as possible, with the most likely outcome being, some MP fighting the cause of the 'struggling' TCs who have to do some MS or to the others who complain the GCs properties are sold at a "low price".

We all pick and choose what we like from a list; so will whoever this is aimed at, for finding a resolution. If it's the Brits, then why remind them of what they stand to lose by a whole Cyprus, governed solely by the RoC?
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Postby Oracle » Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:54 pm

I'm sorry ... I keep logging out and this list keeps popping in my head and I can't concentrate on anything else ...

This was third on the list of demands ...

* Male Turkish Cypriots abroad can't stay longer than a month in the north because of the compulsory military service even if they're 50 years old.

Why should I care about Male TCs from abroad and their demands for a stress free extended holiday in the north? Why? :?

If they really want the Turkish troops out ... just ask for that! ... then this little "lifestyle" improvement will happen automatically.

There is so much on that list that is (at least semantically) wrong; how can you remain so cool and detached?

Anyway, I'll leave you in peace (for a bit).
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Postby kurupetos » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:27 pm

Is it worthy to sign the petition? How can one validate the ID of the people signing it? :?
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Postby YFred » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:35 pm

Oracle wrote:I'm sorry ... I keep logging out and this list keeps popping in my head and I can't concentrate on anything else ...

This was third on the list of demands ...

* Male Turkish Cypriots abroad can't stay longer than a month in the north because of the compulsory military service even if they're 50 years old.

Why should I care about Male TCs from abroad and their demands for a stress free extended holiday in the north? Why? :?

If they really want the Turkish troops out ... just ask for that! ... then this little "lifestyle" improvement will happen automatically.

There is so much on that list that is (at least semantically) wrong; how can you remain so cool and detached?

Anyway, I'll leave you in peace (for a bit).

Do not worry about Male TCs from abroad. Coming out of Ercan, is not a problem for the over 50's.
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Postby The Cypriot » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:39 pm

Don't you dare, under any circumstances, sign a petition....

"demanding that Turkey withdraw all its troops from Cyprus and allow a 'Solution for Cypriots by Cypriots'."

It's self-evidently nothing more than a devious TC plot to improve the quality of their lives – and as such should be shunned.
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Postby bill cobbett » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:50 pm

The Cypriot wrote:Don't you dare, under any circumstances, sign a petition....

"demanding that Turkey withdraw all its troops from Cyprus and allow a 'Solution for Cypriots by Cypriots'."

It's self-evidently nothing more than a devious TC plot to improve the quality of their lives – and as such should be shunned.


My dear Kybroyerro, I still don't get your angle on this.

The petition asks for ..

An end to the Turkish Occupation and
A solution for CY by Cys

Now, I'm unaware as to who the organisers are and their motives, but I can't at present see your interpretation in this petition.

Billc ..... Mr Confused from North London
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Postby The Cypriot » Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:55 pm

Oracle wrote:My dear The Cypriot (can you drop the "The" ... it does my head in!) it is a well known fact that should you present someone with a list of demands,


There's only ONE demand. That Turkey's army goes.

The rest is a list of gripes, to ensure, I would imagine, as many TC names as possible appear on the list.

(My real friends just address me as "Cypriot" and drop any clumsy prefix).
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Postby Oracle » Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:48 pm

The Cypriot wrote:Don't you dare, under any circumstances, sign a petition....

"demanding that Turkey withdraw all its troops from Cyprus and allow a 'Solution for Cypriots by Cypriots'."

It's self-evidently nothing more than a devious TC plot to improve the quality of their lives – and as such should be shunned.


My Dear Cypriot

I would/will(?) sign the above quoted clause; happily!

As for the detailed list, posted initially by you, I have reservations ....
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Postby kurupetos » Fri Jul 03, 2009 5:58 pm

Anyway, I sign/vote nothing unless is official, e.g. a referendum, like 2004. The rest is bollocks. :wink:
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