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[cannedmoose]

Personally I too think that Papadopoulos is only interested in being President for the next 8 years (3 remaining + 5 in the next term). Is he for serious negotiations and a solution? So far he has done nearly nothing to prove that. Does he have anything to offer to this country and its people? I don't think so.

O.

A good analysis O. But will TPap last 8 more years, he's in his late 70s as is... does Cyprus really need another octagenarian President? Plus, if he should be reelected, do you not think that an elderly man may start to reassess his legacy? You say that his ambition was always to be President... would a greater ambition not be to be the guy who solved the problem? Maybe I'm attributing too much trust to him, as you said he's proved virtually nothing in the last two years beyond rejectionism. But you have to ask yourself, who will be standing against him in 2008? Will Anastasiades survive as DHSY leader for that long? I can't see AKEL putting one of their heads on the chopping block and are there any good independents out there?

It's a pretty sad pickle at the moment and the chances for an amicable solution continue to slip by.

[-mikkie2-]

I perhaps have an alternative view, that he wishes to secure a good solution and go down in history as the person that solved the Cyprus problem.

I urge people to think about what would be now if we said yes to the Annan plan and to put it in the context of the current anti-expansion and anti-Turkish sentiment that seems to be sweeping Europe.

The implementation of the plan would have ground to a halt. Turkey would be using the future implementation of the plan as a bargaining chip for further concessions from the EU. In the process we would be made stateless in a non-functioning United Cyprus Republic and we would have signed away our rights to our lands in the north. In the meantime, the international community would be urging Turkey to comply with empty threats and rhetoric and we would be back to square one.

Thanks but no thanks. At least at this moment in time we are masters of our own destiny.

[Kifeas]

Personally I too think that Papadopoulos is only interested in being President for the next 8 years (3 remaining + 5 in the next term). Is he for serious negotiations and a solution? So far he has done nearly nothing to prove that. Does he have anything to offer to this country and its people? I don't think so.

Who will decide his next president are the people and no one else! Was the other side truly ready for negotiations and the UN willing for a new initiative, so that you can judge whether Papadopoullos was serious or not? And who has offered anything more, based on your highly placed and strict criteria?

P.S: Does anyone know where Papadopoulos was in 1974? I know that during the first (or second) day of the coup, he was arrested in Famagusta, but soon after he was released by the orders of Kikis Konstantinou. Just curious.

At least he was not in the Junta list of the perspective puppet presidents for the coupist government, like it was the case with Klerides.

[Kifeas]

well said Othellos.

aah politics!!!!!!

For me is sufficient the fact that Mr Gabaston agrees with you Othellos!

[Kifeas]

Personally I too think that Papadopoulos is only interested in being President for the next 8 years (3 remaining + 5 in the next term). Is he for serious negotiations and a solution? So far he has done nearly nothing to prove that. Does he have anything to offer to this country and its people? I don't think so.

O.

A good analysis O.

Analysis? Where did you see the analysis?

But will TPap last 8 more years, he's in his late 70s as is... does Cyprus really need another octagenarian President?

Papadopoullos is 71 years old!

Maybe I'm attributing too much trust to him, as you said he's proved virtually nothing in the last two years beyond rejectionism.

Which rejectionism are you talking about? The A-plan?

But you have to ask yourself, who will be standing against him in 2008? Will Anastasiades survive as DHSY leader for that long?

Even if he survives DHSY, I do not think he has too much of a chance for president!

It's a pretty sad pickle at the moment and the chances for an amicable solution continue to slip by.

Papadopoullos is not the obstacle for a solution! Turkey is! Soon everyone will realise it, although even in that case they will continue to play ostrich and load the blame on Papadopoullos because he is the easy (most convenient) pray.

[Kifeas]

The devil's advocate strikes again! Well, for those that understand greek here are the actual words of Papadopoulos.

"Όταν ο Τούρκος αποκατασταθεί ως ισότιμος συνεταίρος και στο νότο, που τώρα δεν είναι, ούτε η προσωπική σας ευτυχία θα είναι μόνιμη ούτε η εκπλήρωση των πόθων και οραμάτων σας θα έχει διάρκεια και μονιμότητα"

Papadopoulos hasn't earned the title of turkeater for nothing.

Hey TCs! Go and tell Talat not to dare come anywhere near the negotiating table because the first thing Papadopoullos does when he sees a Turk is to eat him alive.

You are pathetic Bananiot! Very Pathetic!

[cannedmoose]

Analysis? Where did you see the analysis?

I meant assessment re...

Papadopoullos is 71 years old!

So he is... my mistake. Still too old to be President a second term though...

Even if he survives DHSY, I do not think he has too much of a chance for president!

I agree

[Kifeas]

Papadopoullos is 71 years old!

So he is... my mistake. Still too old to be President a second term though...

Who said that the man's only concern is to remain the president for a second term? Othellos?

[JustAnAmerican]

Papdopoulos is an obstacle to the plan and any real negotiating effort at this time. He is the one that would like to delay negotiations as long as possible. Politically it would be painful, if another vote came up, another rejection may occur. It is better to wait a little while. I am not quoting a newspaper or a website. I know because I heard it.

[Kifeas]

Papdopoulos is an obstacle to the plan and any real negotiating effort at this time. He is the one that would like to delay negotiations as long as possible. Politically it would be painful, if another vote came up, another rejection may occur. It is better to wait a little while. I am not quoting a newspaper or a website. I know because I heard it.

Which plan? The plan that 76% of the people already rejected? You (Americans) haven't given up yet from trying to bring this plan back again?

Why is he the one that would like to delay negotiations as long as possible? Where do you base this assumption?
You heard it? From some bird?